BAC water
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I tried the NACL with Tesamorlein, no good... Went cloudy in about a week
Last picture says it works but degrades faster
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I tried the NACL with Tesamorlein, no good... Went cloudy in about a week
Last picture says it works but degrades faster
@MikeMiranda
Mine was very cloudy in 1 week, so I would think it really started to cloud up in a couple of days. Never had a problem with it before I normally get 20 days out of my cartridge. -
I'm very suspicious of using NaCl with some 'bioregulator types'; Tesa, KPV, TA-1, etc., unless explicitly stated in a bonafide protocol. I will experiment with it in Cartalax though; that stuff stings like a mutha w/reg BAC and I won't take it bc of that. From reading sources, it seems to work in Semi & Tirz; don't know about Reta, Survo and Cagri yet.
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The Indian Pharma vendors would be your best bet for Genetek BAC - I can’t vouch for US deliveries but delivered pricing to Aus are around $55US for 100 X 10ml ampules or $480US for 100 X 30ml vials.
Their prices on pharma stuff really is farking wild
Finding a good one is the hard part & the one I’ve just started using specialises in AU stuff but pretty sure he’s starting to branch out to global. -
The Indian Pharma vendors would be your best bet for Genetek BAC - I can’t vouch for US deliveries but delivered pricing to Aus are around $55US for 100 X 10ml ampules or $480US for 100 X 30ml vials.
Their prices on pharma stuff really is farking wild
Finding a good one is the hard part & the one I’ve just started using specialises in AU stuff but pretty sure he’s starting to branch out to global.@STATIEEIGHT ive got one shipping me 30ml bottles of the genetek. Going to have them tested and post him in grey zone however it goes.
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@STATIEEIGHT ive got one shipping me 30ml bottles of the genetek. Going to have them tested and post him in grey zone however it goes.
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@STATIEEIGHT ive got one shipping me 30ml bottles of the genetek. Going to have them tested and post him in grey zone however it goes.
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I haven’t actually bought any yet but probably will at some point. -
I have used a few different vendors for BAC including Hospira before they created the artificial shortage to raise prices.
I was able to purchase from Amazon before they stopped BAC sales and I still have a few bottles of 5ml Reconstitution Solution from Tusty.
I've gotten free WA10 claiming to be BAC from a grey-market pep dealer but do not trust it for anything that I wouldn't use same day I have a different vendors BA10 and had success with it reconstituting AOD as long as I use 1/3rd Acetic Acid with 2/3rds BAC.
Lately I purchased Parrox BAC and I am aware of its higher PH (within standards) I find it to be a quality product and for AOD or other PH sensitive peps a little AA can be useful.
I do get a good laugh out of the Hospira only crew that are purchasing research only peps yet will not accept BAC that can pass all the same tests they require for their peptides. Even though the cost of their Gold standard is 2-3 times the price of the other properly certified BAC products. -
Hospira is back down to under $12 each if you buy a case. No reason to take a chance on anything else. Loose on bottle of Mots-C 40mg, SS-31 50mg or Teas 20mg from bad back and the $4 a bottle you “saved” just cost you $60….
@Commander why would you lose on genetek it is pharmacy grade and used by hospitals. It’s the same thing as Hospira also USP? It’s the same thing
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Why would I go through the trouble of getting it and not knowing if that batch is good when Hospira is only $12
Hospira is easy to get. Medex, click add to cart, pay with credit card, ships the next day… this other brand is not that easy. I would only buy their 30 ml vials anyway, definitely not their Ampols. 10ml, and throwing the rest out because I didn’t need it. Some are transferring it to a 10ml vials, but lets think about that for a minute. Now you have to buy sterile vials (and hope they are actually sterile), transfer it over.
At $12 a bottle for Hosipa, is it even worth it? What could you save, even if you saved $6, is that worth it? That is less than 1 starbucks coffee and it does add more risk.
Everyone is buying filters and worried about test results that come back at 97%. So why would you take a chance over $3 - $6? Doesn’t make sense to me. And if it is just to boycott Pfizer, whoever wants to fall on that sword can, not worth it to me. -
Why would I go through the trouble of getting it and not knowing if that batch is good when Hospira is only $12
Hospira is easy to get. Medex, click add to cart, pay with credit card, ships the next day… this other brand is not that easy. I would only buy their 30 ml vials anyway, definitely not their Ampols. 10ml, and throwing the rest out because I didn’t need it. Some are transferring it to a 10ml vials, but lets think about that for a minute. Now you have to buy sterile vials (and hope they are actually sterile), transfer it over.
At $12 a bottle for Hosipa, is it even worth it? What could you save, even if you saved $6, is that worth it? That is less than 1 starbucks coffee and it does add more risk.
Everyone is buying filters and worried about test results that come back at 97%. So why would you take a chance over $3 - $6? Doesn’t make sense to me. And if it is just to boycott Pfizer, whoever wants to fall on that sword can, not worth it to me.@Commander why do you think the price came down? It’s because they did their ripoff move and people found other sources. They will just do it again if the market shifts back. It’s the evil empire. To me the biggest tell is the fact that the very same hospital bac with NACL added is 1/3 the price. I bet we see that change as more people start using it. There is nothing wrong with either product. The others out there that aren’t USP may be a different story. It’s always good to have great alternatives when one company has control you get what we see 4x per year. The fear, scarcity, prices going up scam. We should be happy Genetek is a terrific alternative as long as it’s the real thing. Not to mention the fake Hospira bac that ended up in the supply chain.
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The problem is Genetek (especially the 30ml vial) is not easy to get right now. When they are easily available (maybe Jeff will start ti sell them on here) then that is a different story.
But again at under $15 a bottle, not worth the hassle to me. I spend WAY to much time on this stuff to begin with…
No doubt the Genetek 30ml will start to be available in the next few months for people like Daro or Max, but even they are a little bit of a pain to order from. It is not like here where you come on, put what you want in your cart, pay with Credit Card, and it shows up at your house a few days later. That is the kind of convenience I would need to buy them. But once that happens and companies like Medex start seeing drops in sales, that will force them to keep their prices down. It is already happening. Remember Medex raised their price to $319 a few months back because “Hospira raised their prices” well it is back down to $289… so much for Hospira raising their prices… -
@ Commander Just a reminder to factor in that not all of us need a case at a time. They would expire before I can use a case and group buys are not an option with locales. Something to consider when quoting the 12 dollar price.
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@Nuncles
That is true. But even at singles, a bunch of people are selling them for $15 each...@Commander and genetek is $6 and you get 40pct more bac. It’s 1/3 the price even at $15 and it’s the same thing. I don’t think this is that hard I get being married to Hospira but they are both pharmacy grade. Truth is Hospira is the really the same price. We know this from Hospira bac with NACL but they mark it up 3x because they know people will pay it. I completely agree with going the safe route but in this case it’s pharmacy grade v pharmacy grade.
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@Commander and genetek is $6 and you get 40pct more bac. It’s 1/3 the price even at $15 and it’s the same thing. I don’t think this is that hard I get being married to Hospira but they are both pharmacy grade. Truth is Hospira is the really the same price. We know this from Hospira bac with NACL but they mark it up 3x because they know people will pay it. I completely agree with going the safe route but in this case it’s pharmacy grade v pharmacy grade.
@Stevepep
It is not the same thing... It may be close, but not the same thing. No proven track record with all the peptides we use... Just because another country uses it as "their" back water, doesn't mean it is the same as we have. other country's drinking water standards are different than ours too, but just because they drink the water doesn't mean I will. Do you even know the ph level of this Bac water?
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