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Recently purchased 60mg Epithalon from Peptidology and it didn't reconstitute properly

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Recently purchased 60mg Epithalon from Peptidology and it didn't reconstitute properly
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    Filtering ain't helping that.

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    • vpepsV Online
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      The quality of BAC water can make a difference here. PH of water may affect the solubility of the components. Are you confident in its quality?

      attentiion is all you need

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        I've been using their Ara-290 and having no issues. What BAC water did you use?

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          They’ll blame you for using cheap BAC. Hope you didn’t use saline.

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            I have used multiple Peptidology product until now. Everything always reconstituted fine. One recently opened vial didn't have vacuum and I was worried if it may gel of cause any research issues, but it didn't. It too reconned fine and research is going fine.

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              I only use Hospira BAC and have been using it for years with other peptides. Never had an issue.

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                First rule - Never trust a vendor provided COA

                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                  So much can matter, which lab is the COA from? Is the COA even authentic? Is this vial from the same batch? Get your kit tested.

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                    I like peptidolgy even though they are not cheap. But they use Vanguard and their tests are comprehensive. I feel like they are a top tier vendor.

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                      I used Peptidology many times, including TA-1, which may be difficult, and every time it reconstituted well.

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                        So I have ordered probably a total of 40 vials or so from Peptidology as they are one of my more trusted vendors with no issue EXCEPT for their 60mg vial of epithalon—-same thing happened to me…other than that, they are a very good option….I usually stack the veteran discount with other discounts to make the price more palatable.

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                        • G Grant_Gochnauer

                          I only use Hospira BAC and have been using it for years with other peptides. Never had an issue.

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                          @Grant_Gochnauer ...is it real hospira?

                          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                            First rule - Never trust a vendor provided COA

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                            @Commander Hmmm I know your feelings but TBF to vendors this exact same thing can happen with one's personal independently tested kit too. If you buy a 10 vial kit and send one for testing, the results are just for that vial. Any of the rest 9 vials can have issues.

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                              @grant_gochnauer did you try reaching out to customer care or Josh the owner? Their customer care is excellent in my experience and Josh is one of the most proactive QC minded owners I have seen.

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                                I reached out to Peptidology and they were absolutely amazing. They cross-checked my batch with their quality team and offered to replace the vial free of charge. In their own quality testing, they recommended that the 60mg vial needs to be reconstituted with 6 ml of BAC and that 4 ml might not have been enough. In any case, they replaced it without any hassle.

                                They even offered to switch out my single 60mg vial with 6 10mg vials, 2 day Fedex shipping, no charge. They also included a free Hospira bacteriostatic water too!

                                All resolved within the same day.

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                                  I reached out to Peptidology and they were absolutely amazing. They cross-checked my batch with their quality team and offered to replace the vial free of charge. In their own quality testing, they recommended that the 60mg vial needs to be reconstituted with 6 ml of BAC and that 4 ml might not have been enough. In any case, they replaced it without any hassle.

                                  They even offered to switch out my single 60mg vial with 6 10mg vials, 2 day Fedex shipping, no charge. They also included a free Hospira bacteriostatic water too!

                                  All resolved within the same day.

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                                  @Grant_Gochnauer Great!

                                  Off topic — Epithalon is different from Epithalamine. Epithalamine protocols ask for 5-10mg dosing per research. But Epithalon is a smaller synthetic compound extracted from Epithalamine, whose research dosing protocol only demands 500mcg to 1mg per research. So more Epithalon and thus higher capacity vial is not required.

                                  My 2c!

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                                    I reached out to Peptidology and they were absolutely amazing. They cross-checked my batch with their quality team and offered to replace the vial free of charge. In their own quality testing, they recommended that the 60mg vial needs to be reconstituted with 6 ml of BAC and that 4 ml might not have been enough. In any case, they replaced it without any hassle.

                                    They even offered to switch out my single 60mg vial with 6 10mg vials, 2 day Fedex shipping, no charge. They also included a free Hospira bacteriostatic water too!

                                    All resolved within the same day.

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                                    @Grant_Gochnauer said:

                                    I reached out to Peptidology and they were absolutely amazing. They cross-checked my batch with their quality team and offered to replace the vial free of charge. In their own quality testing, they recommended that the 60mg vial needs to be reconstituted with 6 ml of BAC and that 4 ml might not have been enough. In any case, they replaced it without any hassle.

                                    They even offered to switch out my single 60mg vial with 6 10mg vials, 2 day Fedex shipping, no charge. They also included a free Hospira bacteriostatic water too!

                                    All resolved within the same day.

                                    That's great service. Exactly how it should be instead of blaming the customer like Southern Amino does. We all should support vendors that provide this service of level to us.

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                                      I just got this email from them. I didn't even realize that the bottles were short and wouldn't have for quite a while. Proactive on their part. Great company!

                                      "We wanted to reach out regarding your recent SLU-PP-332 order. There was an error in the product listing, which showed 60 capsules per bottle, while the actual bottle contains 30 capsules.

                                      We’ve created a replacement order for 3 additional bottle of SLU-PP-332 at no extra cost. Your replacement order number is #79663.

                                      The replacement will ship via FedEx 2-Day, and you’ll receive the tracking link as soon as it ships.

                                      We apologize for the confusion and appreciate your understanding."

                                      SJ

                                      Edit: Even better. I guess it was supposed to be just 30 capsules after all, as the listing is now correct, but when I ordered it it showed as 60 capsules. So they actually are making it correct in that way for me based on my purchase. I can only imagine how many vendors would have told me too bad when I realized it was less capsules than what was stated on the product listing page and would have told me to piss off.

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                                        @Grant_Gochnauer said:

                                        I reached out to Peptidology and they were absolutely amazing. They cross-checked my batch with their quality team and offered to replace the vial free of charge. In their own quality testing, they recommended that the 60mg vial needs to be reconstituted with 6 ml of BAC and that 4 ml might not have been enough. In any case, they replaced it without any hassle.

                                        They even offered to switch out my single 60mg vial with 6 10mg vials, 2 day Fedex shipping, no charge. They also included a free Hospira bacteriostatic water too!

                                        All resolved within the same day.

                                        That's great service. Exactly how it should be instead of blaming the customer like Southern Amino does. We all should support vendors that provide this service of level to us.

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                                        @denti said:

                                        We all should support vendors that provide this service of level to us

                                        I pivoted a friend to Peptidology who newly entered RUO and was considering some random online vendor his gym trainer recommended. That vendor most likely carried doctored COAs because I immediately spotted problems. Plus that vendor is not on any price index vetted lists, and I know a handful now.

                                        Next I referred him to Nexaph. 🙂

                                        Peptidology and Nexaph will be my consistent suppliers for lab research.

                                        Should both of them disappear (oh God no), I might just straight go dark grey with my own testing. I've seen enough testing lab drama now.

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                                          @Grant_Gochnauer Great!

                                          Off topic — Epithalon is different from Epithalamine. Epithalamine protocols ask for 5-10mg dosing per research. But Epithalon is a smaller synthetic compound extracted from Epithalamine, whose research dosing protocol only demands 500mcg to 1mg per research. So more Epithalon and thus higher capacity vial is not required.

                                          My 2c!

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                                          @pep_researcher said:

                                          @Grant_Gochnauer Great!

                                          Off topic — Epithalon is different from Epithalamine. Epithalamine protocols ask for 5-10mg dosing per research. But Epithalon is a smaller synthetic compound extracted from Epithalamine, whose research dosing protocol only demands 500mcg to 1mg per research. So more Epithalon and thus higher capacity vial is not required.

                                          My 2c!

                                          Thanks! I have read a lot about protocols for Epitalon being originally based on Epithalamine and it seems that that is now the consensus whenever I look for standard Epitalon protocols. This peptide seems to have the most variability in terms of how much people are researching with. I was going to go with 3mg daily for 20 days. I've read some people doing 5 to 10mg a day! I've also seen some around 500mcg to 1mg per your note.

                                          Curious if anyone has seen any more definitive researching guide for this protocol.

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