Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)
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4 week update- I’ve been noticeably stronger in the gym lately and have actually set a few PR’s. Still way more vascular than normal. I’d been averaging 8-10lbs weight loss a month. Since starting FLGR it has slowed to maybe 1-2lbs but my smart scale shows fat decreasing and muscle increasing. Disclaimer: I started enclomaphine around the same time so there’s really no telling which one is doing the heavy lifting but my test went from 677 to 900 on 6.25mg of Enclo daily. Taking 2 vials of slim assist every Sunday. It’s either working, the increased testosterone is working, or is
a top tier placebo. Either way I’m happy thus far4 week update- I’ve been noticeably stronger in the gym lately and have actually set a few PR’s. Still way more vascular than normal. I’d been averaging 8-10lbs weight loss a month. Since starting FLGR it has slowed to maybe 1-2lbs but my smart scale shows fat decreasing and muscle increasing. Disclaimer: I started enclomaphine around the same time so there’s really no telling which one is doing the heavy lifting but my test went from 677 to 900 on 6.25mg of Enclo daily. Taking 2 vials of slim assist every Sunday. It’s either working, the increased testosterone is working, or is
a top tier placebo. Either way I’m happy thus farWow! And....exactly what I would expect
Please update after more weeks. Based on my experience you have 3-4 great months ahead of you.
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Been on FLGR for 15 weeks. Started at 2.5mg. After zero change. I upped to 5 the last 4 weeks. Have put on a few pounds of muscle. And FAT. But keep in mind. According to the manufacturer. You have to up your calories 50-75% above BMR. REALLY hard to do. I maintain my 170-200 grams of protein.
Here's what Ive taken into account. I increased the intensity of strength training. Just because I don't want that to be a reason I'm not seeing gains. My Sleep averages 7.5 hours of quality sleep. I eliminated all other peptides. Just to not affect results.
I'm 68. 180# 14% body fat (Dexa every month) been strength training for 50+ years. Retired from the fitness industry. Very disciplined.
My take? Not worth the price. More hype than science (which there is none of) and think I should have gone a HG peptides route or just HGH. Do need to mention I've been on TRT for 8 years and maintain excellent blood markers across the board. Maybe I'm just a non responder?
Good on all of those who claim huge increases in muscle mass after a couple of months. But...until I see MRI scans proving that. Or really know what's in the vials? I'll not continue FLGR-242Been on FLGR for 15 weeks. Started at 2.5mg. After zero change. I upped to 5 the last 4 weeks. Have put on a few pounds of muscle. And FAT. But keep in mind. According to the manufacturer. You have to up your calories 50-75% above BMR. REALLY hard to do. I maintain my 170-200
Good on all of those who claim huge increases in muscle mass after a couple of months. But...until I see MRI scans proving that. Or really know what's in the vials? I'll not continue FLGR-242Interesting data point, thanks for posting!
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Update:
New labs look great Cystatin C 1.11->1.04, Iron/TBIC/Ferritin finally all within optimum range. Stamina ever increasing (fixed ferritin).
Completed SS-31 2 month 50mg daily run, surprising effect on urine flow increase. Wonder if synergistic in combo with the Klotho? Could be/Should be when you think it. The cost of SS-31, first off I loaded up from multiple vendors who were blowing out stocks Dec-Feb in fear, second, QSC offers 50mg at .70/mg. Understand screaming deals when you see them, then, act on them. In regards to expense, what I look at is value, what else is proven to do what elamipretide does? Nothing. I plan to run another two month course in a couple months from now, so 2 on, then 3 off, rinse repeat.
BTW- the proven minimum efficacious dose is what it is, I've seen zero evidence anything less than 40mg daily is effective, indeed the opposite. The molecule doesn't care if anyone likes that or not.
Ran an experiment stopping variable-resistance training for two months to observe effect on Skeletal Muscle Mass, shock, only dropped 1lb. There is another benefit I attribute to FLGR. Maintain the gain if you go on vacation for a couple months
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Update:
New labs look great Cystatin C 1.11->1.04, Iron/TBIC/Ferritin finally all within optimum range. Stamina ever increasing (fixed ferritin).
Completed SS-31 2 month 50mg daily run, surprising effect on urine flow increase. Wonder if synergistic in combo with the Klotho? Could be/Should be when you think it. The cost of SS-31, first off I loaded up from multiple vendors who were blowing out stocks Dec-Feb in fear, second, QSC offers 50mg at .70/mg. Understand screaming deals when you see them, then, act on them. In regards to expense, what I look at is value, what else is proven to do what elamipretide does? Nothing. I plan to run another two month course in a couple months from now, so 2 on, then 3 off, rinse repeat.
BTW- the proven minimum efficacious dose is what it is, I've seen zero evidence anything less than 40mg daily is effective, indeed the opposite. The molecule doesn't care if anyone likes that or not.
Ran an experiment stopping variable-resistance training for two months to observe effect on Skeletal Muscle Mass, shock, only dropped 1lb. There is another benefit I attribute to FLGR. Maintain the gain if you go on vacation for a couple months
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Yeah, but they said that in the last sale, too.
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Iron/TBIC/Ferritin finally all within optimum range
What do you consider as optimal values for these?
Iron/TBIC/Ferritin finally all within optimum range
What do you consider as optimal values for these?
It's a great question! I do agree with @diegoc too much is probably not good.
HOWEVER, too low is most certainly a BIG problem, "therapeutic" phlebotomy caused me years of lack of stamina and suboptimal energy, and FLGR this year further drained my ferritin reserves as it let my muscle (re)growth run unchecked (a good thing).
So now I'm on to the hematocrit OMG IT WILL KILL YOU!! scam and gloriously let it run free as well. Pull the string if you want to really get pissed off.
Tangent mini-rant- if you are dealing with secondary erythrocytosis driven by exogenous testosterone, hematocrit is MEANINGLESS. Just like Estradiol level is MEANINGLESS. (pull the string) IGNORE. It's GOOD not bad.
Back to the question, on this I am quite comfortable to be in the Labcorp reference intervals. See attached.
The more you dig the more you discover so many so-called experts have no fucking clue what they are talking about. Recommendations based solely upon "Expert opinion" is utter BS. Be your own advocate and trust NO ONE unless claims are thoroughly vetted.
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@PeptidePete Ferritin 30 - 400 ng/ml is quite a range to call both extremes normal. Your values around 90 look a lot healthier than 31 or 390 would.
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Just got an email from biolongevity that said once they sell out of their remaining 700 vials, “slim assist” will be NO more…
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Just got an email from biolongevity that said once they sell out of their remaining 700 vials, “slim assist” will be NO more…
@MacLeeezy they gave everyone a taste and switched them to the genuine article once hooked at full price lol
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@denti I wouldn't worry about it if you need to run it but have some. Use what you have and wait for, you know, 50% sales on FLRG242. It's the holiday season coming.
@denti I wouldn't worry about it if you need to run it but have some. Use what you have and wait for, you know, 50% sales on FLRG242. It's the holiday season coming.
I got 40 vials left but looking to step up to 2x a week now. Still gives me 5 months but I still like having a stock. Hopefully deal comes back again.
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I've got like 26 2mg vials left. Honestly if this is it, im good with it. I've personally found them to be a ridiculously OP ancillary to some stronger stuff that I run, basically allowing me to dose that stuff lower and get an oversized effect out of it. Hopefully not a controversial take just what ive found has worked exceptionally well for me.
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I've got like 26 2mg vials left. Honestly if this is it, im good with it. I've personally found them to be a ridiculously OP ancillary to some stronger stuff that I run, basically allowing me to dose that stuff lower and get an oversized effect out of it. Hopefully not a controversial take just what ive found has worked exceptionally well for me.
@Mr-Smurf Well, I hit my upvote limit early today.
IMO, it’s always good to hear people’s real world experiences. I haven’t started using my stock of FLGR yet, but I am happy to see what others are doing and how it is working for them. I need to gain muscle mass. I’m starting to look like Ed Norton. (Without all the tats.)
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I've got like 26 2mg vials left. Honestly if this is it, im good with it. I've personally found them to be a ridiculously OP ancillary to some stronger stuff that I run, basically allowing me to dose that stuff lower and get an oversized effect out of it. Hopefully not a controversial take just what ive found has worked exceptionally well for me.
I've got like 26 2mg vials left. Honestly if this is it, im good with it. I've personally found them to be a ridiculously OP ancillary to some stronger stuff that I run, basically allowing me to dose that stuff lower and get an oversized effect out of it. Hopefully not a controversial take just what ive found has worked exceptionally well for me.
If you ever want to get rid of them I’ll take them off your hands. Of course I would reimburse you for it.
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I've got like 26 2mg vials left. Honestly if this is it, im good with it. I've personally found them to be a ridiculously OP ancillary to some stronger stuff that I run, basically allowing me to dose that stuff lower and get an oversized effect out of it. Hopefully not a controversial take just what ive found has worked exceptionally well for me.
If you ever want to get rid of them I’ll take them off your hands. Of course I would reimburse you for it.
@denti honestly not looking like its going anywhere but in my body lol my gains are surpassing what would be normal for my protocol. Im convinced combining it with aas exaggerates smaller doses into working like much larger ones would. So im getting all the good but with a very clean blood panel
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