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  • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

    Thx. Ordered from Swiss Chems. Will keep you posted. Appreciate everyone positively contributing.

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    @ResearchCat
    Good luck! It's a valid approach for optimization. Plus you'll know whether moving on to TRT at some point in the future is really necessary. Remember though, this won't stand up to the use of other 'enhancements' (AAS, ++, whatever you want to call it) even if you add in HCG. Lab results should show up quickly. I humbly suggest 6-8 wks and then adjust as necessary.

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      I was looking into this to optimize my T. The Maximus Protocol study has some great pre post labs to look at and is at large scale with 4 different dosing stratagies. I'm sold on it i've seen alot of N=1 testimonies but this study from the Maximus Tribe Clinics has me sold. see in the link below.

      Maximus’ Enclomiphene Protocol: A Safe and Effective Therapy to Restore Testosterone and Support Quality of Life in Men

      If you wanted to go the 503A route you could use Maximus Clinics if you have the $$$ - Dr Gabriel Alizaidy is the lead for clinical innovation and R&D you may recognixe him from social media posts on hormones and peptides.

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      • bfullerB bfuller

        I was looking into this to optimize my T. The Maximus Protocol study has some great pre post labs to look at and is at large scale with 4 different dosing stratagies. I'm sold on it i've seen alot of N=1 testimonies but this study from the Maximus Tribe Clinics has me sold. see in the link below.

        Maximus’ Enclomiphene Protocol: A Safe and Effective Therapy to Restore Testosterone and Support Quality of Life in Men

        If you wanted to go the 503A route you could use Maximus Clinics if you have the $$$ - Dr Gabriel Alizaidy is the lead for clinical innovation and R&D you may recognixe him from social media posts on hormones and peptides.

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        @bfuller
        Cool! its a nice 'study' with basic statistical analysis in a sizable and varied population that shows good response to therapy. I missed a methods section which would have described how the various dosages for these men were initially chosen and then altered over time- but its a small thing for most folks on this forum considering going for it on their own. As usual start lower and increase based on labs and symptoms. Great find.

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          @bfuller
          Cool! its a nice 'study' with basic statistical analysis in a sizable and varied population that shows good response to therapy. I missed a methods section which would have described how the various dosages for these men were initially chosen and then altered over time- but its a small thing for most folks on this forum considering going for it on their own. As usual start lower and increase based on labs and symptoms. Great find.

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          bfuller
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          @Stones67 Based on the data provided in this study I'm going to start at 6.25mg do labs and then go from there based on the numbers. Seems pretty simple.

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          • bfullerB bfuller

            I was looking into this to optimize my T. The Maximus Protocol study has some great pre post labs to look at and is at large scale with 4 different dosing stratagies. I'm sold on it i've seen alot of N=1 testimonies but this study from the Maximus Tribe Clinics has me sold. see in the link below.

            Maximus’ Enclomiphene Protocol: A Safe and Effective Therapy to Restore Testosterone and Support Quality of Life in Men

            If you wanted to go the 503A route you could use Maximus Clinics if you have the $$$ - Dr Gabriel Alizaidy is the lead for clinical innovation and R&D you may recognixe him from social media posts on hormones and peptides.

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            @bfuller Interesting. I didn’t see it specified, but do you know if these were daily or every other day doses?

            Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

            If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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            • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

              @bfuller Interesting. I didn’t see it specified, but do you know if these were daily or every other day doses?

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              bfuller
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              @ResearchCat daily dosing

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                ResearchCat
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                Perfect, thanks!

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                • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

                  @bfuller Interesting. I didn’t see it specified, but do you know if these were daily or every other day doses?

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                  @ResearchCat Its hidden in their clinics information on Enclomophine advertisement. 1 pill a day at the same time each day right below thier mention of the whitepaper. Also in the study they said at three years no adverse events so there is some good data there to support it isn't affecting kidney or liver biomarkers even ED for 3 years.

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                    #69

                    I wish I read this thread before I ordered a large qty from Modified Aminos. Am I understanding correctly that what we don’t want in our Enclomiphene capsules is the presence of Zuclomiphene?

                    This was the COA they provided which I take is not helpful?

                    COA

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                      60 (ish) days later. Labs are T total: 457, free 86.4, Estradiol 30, hematocrit 39.7. So total T is up about 150 which doesn’t seem like a lot, the others are actually down from last labs, and PSA is up quite a bit, but I had an MRI and everything is good there.

                      Most recently, I have felt like I am lifting a bit heavier without as much effort and feeling a little stronger. Been off the past week due to illness but that is a welcome sign. I would like to see the numbers higher but am going to wait another 2 months and get more labs before increasing to 25mg/day.

                      Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                      If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                        Anyone know best bang for buck source? Umbrella? kimera? disguised? etc ballin on a budget here friendos

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                          I paid $47.77 a bottle for 60 capsules of 12.5mg from Modified Aminos.

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                            I paid $47.77 a bottle for 60 capsules of 12.5mg from Modified Aminos.

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                            bpcknees
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                            @denti said:

                            Modified Aminos

                            Current price is much higher, do you have a discount code? Thanks.

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                              Natural T was at 677.
                              Sourced Enclo from kimera.
                              I added 6.25mg of enclomiphene daily and it went up to 847.
                              Went up to 12.5mg daily at it went up to 1182!
                              Estradiol jumped to 61 though, so I’m going to back it off to 12.5mg EOD and see what those numbers look like.

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                                Went with a lighter approach on the budget. Trying dim200 to help with lowering est and freeing more useable test. Enclos just not recession friendly lol

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                                  I've read that enclomiphene while raising testosterone, does not produce the same positive effect as it feels with exogenous T, allegedly at least in part because it also lowers igf-1 among other things.

                                  attentiion is all you need

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                                    Both nolvadex and clomid have been tried and true. Why not give them a shot.

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                                      @denti said:

                                      Modified Aminos

                                      Current price is much higher, do you have a discount code? Thanks.

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                                      @bpcknees said:

                                      @denti said:

                                      Modified Aminos

                                      Current price is much higher, do you have a discount code? Thanks.

                                      Sorry, I don't have a discount code. Maybe they will have a sale again for Black Friday?

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                                      • documentswitchD documentswitch

                                        Both nolvadex and clomid have been tried and true. Why not give them a shot.

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                                        @documentswitch hear clomid has HORRIBLE sides from anyone who hears you utter its name. Regularly see it disliked in meso and the like.

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                                          It's a short protocol, I think it's worth a shot.
                                          Also most of those guys are coming off heavy steroid use, making their recovery process much more difficult.

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