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    MacLeeezy
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    #582

    In regards to the FLGR242, are you guys seeing any benefit of split dosing as opposed to one large weekly injection? I’m currently on the weekly but have been contemplating splitting it up a little when I titrate up once I hit week 9(ish)

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    • MacLeeezyM MacLeeezy

      In regards to the FLGR242, are you guys seeing any benefit of split dosing as opposed to one large weekly injection? I’m currently on the weekly but have been contemplating splitting it up a little when I titrate up once I hit week 9(ish)

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      @MacLeeezy My biggest concern is that with the SlimAssist version of FLGR-242, if say, I want to actually use 4 mg (2 doses) at once, I'd be doubling the amount of B-vitamin too. I should have asked Mike Farber if splitting the dose, say, would even make a difference. In other words, I wonder if the modified albumin binding would also extend the longevity of the Vitamin B too. I would think not, since that is comprised of different molecules.

      The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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        @MacLeeezy My biggest concern is that with the SlimAssist version of FLGR-242, if say, I want to actually use 4 mg (2 doses) at once, I'd be doubling the amount of B-vitamin too. I should have asked Mike Farber if splitting the dose, say, would even make a difference. In other words, I wonder if the modified albumin binding would also extend the longevity of the Vitamin B too. I would think not, since that is comprised of different molecules.

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        @ImaFrogNotaRat said:

        @MacLeeezy My biggest concern is that with the SlimAssist version of FLGR-242, if say, I want to actually use 4 mg (2 doses) at once, I'd be doubling the amount of B-vitamin too. I should have asked Mike Farber if splitting the dose, say, would even make a difference. In other words, I wonder if the modified albumin binding would also extend the longevity of the Vitamin B too. I would think not, since that is comprised of different molecules.

        What are the known downsides to having too much B vitamins that come in Slim Assist?

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          @ImaFrogNotaRat said:

          @MacLeeezy My biggest concern is that with the SlimAssist version of FLGR-242, if say, I want to actually use 4 mg (2 doses) at once, I'd be doubling the amount of B-vitamin too. I should have asked Mike Farber if splitting the dose, say, would even make a difference. In other words, I wonder if the modified albumin binding would also extend the longevity of the Vitamin B too. I would think not, since that is comprised of different molecules.

          What are the known downsides to having too much B vitamins that come in Slim Assist?

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          @denti Even though B-Vitamins are water soluble, mega-doses can cause:

          Vitamin B6 Toxicity - peripheral neuropathy
          Vitamin B3 (niacin) -skin flushing. Liver toxicity in extreme amounts.
          Vitamin B9 (folate) - can mask a vitamin B12 deficiency.

          We're getting 1000 mcg of Vitamin B-Complex with two vials, but I'm not sure what the individual amounts of the B vitamins we are getting in that.

          The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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            I have avoided this thread since I joined 2 months ago because it was just So Much. But I just read the whole thing. WOW, I’m so invested in seeing you guys’s progress! This FLGR is fascinating! I have FOMO, but I’ll wait for the next sale. I need to up my lifting game more first. I have a trainer now, so accountability is a motivator. Lol. I love cardio and have hated lifting, but I need to put my big girl pants on and buckle down.

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              There’s a sale going on now but it’s only 35% off. It doesn’t even come close to the previous sale where everything was 50% off AND however much you bought, they added another 1.5x quantity for free.

              Hoping they’ll bring that one back around the holidays.

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                I ran this for 2 months at 5mg/wk and didn’t notice anything. I lift 5 days a week, zone 2 cardio etc etc and not much to say. I’m back on test-Anavar cycle and see way more gains. Maybe I’m someone who doesn’t respond not sure but for the cost not worth revisiting right now. Some have blown up with it is seems just not this guy

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                  I ran this for 2 months at 5mg/wk and didn’t notice anything. I lift 5 days a week, zone 2 cardio etc etc and not much to say. I’m back on test-Anavar cycle and see way more gains. Maybe I’m someone who doesn’t respond not sure but for the cost not worth revisiting right now. Some have blown up with it is seems just not this guy

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                  @wellsG if you have any left it makes a hell of an ancillary for aas. Takes the brakes off and i found made a little bit act more like alot. I kind of went into this with that being the idea. Would only buy back in at the price I bought in though.

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                    @wellsG if you have any left it makes a hell of an ancillary for aas. Takes the brakes off and i found made a little bit act more like alot. I kind of went into this with that being the idea. Would only buy back in at the price I bought in though.

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                    @Mr-Smurf thanks for feedback. They way Jay Cambell talked this up I expected more as he made this sound like you got gains like you ran a cycle.

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                      Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm going to participate in a GB for this and see what kind of results I get. The GB is selling 25mg for $250.

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                      • B bangkokiscool

                        Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm going to participate in a GB for this and see what kind of results I get. The GB is selling 25mg for $250.

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                        @bangkokiscool said:

                        Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm going to participate in a GB for this and see what kind of results I get. The GB is selling 25mg for $250.

                        Where is this GB?

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                        • B bangkokiscool

                          Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm going to participate in a GB for this and see what kind of results I get. The GB is selling 25mg for $250.

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                          @bangkokiscool said:

                          Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm going to participate in a GB for this and see what kind of results I get. The GB is selling 25mg for $250.

                          I just placed my order. Probably the same GB.

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                            @bangkokiscool said:

                            Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm going to participate in a GB for this and see what kind of results I get. The GB is selling 25mg for $250.

                            I just placed my order. Probably the same GB.

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                            @Confused I took a look at that GB, their suppliers claim to have the same molecule as CAS# 3108438-94-1. But will it be exactly that? It's a 200+ AA sequence, it must be tested very thoroughly, it's the first appearance of it. BLL now sells it for 10mg for $200, which is 2x more, but it goes on sale often. I don't know how much it is a bargain, considering the risks.

                            it's an untested molecule (except personal research), just a hypothetical mechanism, guessed dosages. Now you add a layer of an unknown producer, and that it will be sent to a lab that may have no clue how to test it properly. Not scary? For something that is measured in micrograms and may hang around in your body for 3 weeks? Overfills, impurities?

                            attentiion is all you need

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                              @bangkokiscool said:

                              Want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I'm going to participate in a GB for this and see what kind of results I get. The GB is selling 25mg for $250.

                              Where is this GB?

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                              @denti Ghost Peps

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                                @Confused I took a look at that GB, their suppliers claim to have the same molecule as CAS# 3108438-94-1. But will it be exactly that? It's a 200+ AA sequence, it must be tested very thoroughly, it's the first appearance of it. BLL now sells it for 10mg for $200, which is 2x more, but it goes on sale often. I don't know how much it is a bargain, considering the risks.

                                it's an untested molecule (except personal research), just a hypothetical mechanism, guessed dosages. Now you add a layer of an unknown producer, and that it will be sent to a lab that may have no clue how to test it properly. Not scary? For something that is measured in micrograms and may hang around in your body for 3 weeks? Overfills, impurities?

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                                @vpeps I totally agree. I would only buy from BLL. If others have the FLGR, I wonder if that means they also have the albumin binding part too. Otherwise, the FLGR will be dead in 4 hours, even if it is the real protein.

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                                  I have 4 vials from BLL. My plan was to send one from the GB to the same lab BLL used and see what it comes back as.

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                                    I have more than I need of FLGR242 from the sales acquired for less than $10 per 1 mg (as SlimAssist). I find it unlikely that this pricing won't be reached during the holiday season. Although Ghost Peps may end up sourcing a quality compound, and the competition is a good thing, the benefit/risk ratio doesn't look too impressive at the moment.

                                    attentiion is all you need

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                                    • S Stones67

                                      I'm another N=1. I'm 59yo. I'm exactly at 3 months since starting FLGR (no Klotho) and without a doubt have recorded visible changes in my physique that would not have occurred without running gear. Labs done after a month were all improved (fasted glucose, A1c, etc) but at the time was also running reta at 0.5mg every 6 days. Next labs in about a month and I may not be able to stop myself from adding a repeat Dexa (my curiosity is getting the better of me). I believe it (flgr) is allowing me to move beyond my myostatin regulated genetic potential. My testosterone is optimized with enclomiphene and I enjoy CJC/Ipa. The grey hair not withstanding, I look and feel closer to 40. But this is a speculative play. Not in terms of results, as I can honestly vouch for those now, but in terms of safety. I have enough stocked away for another year but am considering running this for another 3 months or so, and then taking a few months off. I'm honestly curious about the durability of results. I think Pete will still be on the stuff when he croaks at 150! Only buy when on sale (I don't buy anything else on BLL cuz all their stuff is crazy expensive) but shoot for at least 6 months. I wouldn't be surprised if they do something enticing over the 4th. Someone else is going to eventually reverse engineer the albumin binder part or figure out another way to extend half-life. The monoclonal antibody stuff is intriguing and I'll take my cues from quicksilver as he formulates his thoughts over time. Or go to Panama or the Bahamas or wherever and have your genes altered! Otherwise it's PED's or FLGR as far as I can tell! I watch Josh H. and think he does OK making AI research sound like his own. Unfortunately there is no real research on this new stuff so unless he tries it for 6 months he really doesn't know anything. Hope that helps and happy to chime in anytime!

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                                      @Stones67 Add GHK-cu (injectable) to your regimen and you may be able to turn your gray hair back to it's original color. I've been running it since August (you don't need more than 2mg per day and don't have to cycle it) and my snow white hair is peppered with my original color with a large patch of my original color on the back of my head. I've been going gray since I was 18, I was snow white by 40 so I was skeptical that I would achieve the hair color restoration results others had mentioned, but now I'm thinking it might actually restore most of my original color. Only time will tell.
                                      P.S. I add KPV to mine which helps with the injection site stinging GHK-cu is famous for. However, some people never get the stinging, maybe you'd be one of the lucky ones.

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                                        Good, gives me hope I'm not just injecting something cherenkov blue for the fun of it. Turns out I really am that vain after my hair started falling out.

                                        A newbie aficionado of magical internet powder.

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                                          @Stones67 Add GHK-cu (injectable) to your regimen and you may be able to turn your gray hair back to it's original color. I've been running it since August (you don't need more than 2mg per day and don't have to cycle it) and my snow white hair is peppered with my original color with a large patch of my original color on the back of my head. I've been going gray since I was 18, I was snow white by 40 so I was skeptical that I would achieve the hair color restoration results others had mentioned, but now I'm thinking it might actually restore most of my original color. Only time will tell.
                                          P.S. I add KPV to mine which helps with the injection site stinging GHK-cu is famous for. However, some people never get the stinging, maybe you'd be one of the lucky ones.

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                                          @KKat
                                          Thanks for the endorsement! Staring at a kit from Nexaph as I type this. Adding a little pepper back into the salt would be a bonus. Was also hoping for some skin tightening in the former location of my spare tire😊

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