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  • RandyR Randy

    are you able to get ampules? Or getting the chinese pharma brand Lyophilized versions

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    @Randy I have the lyophilized version from a Chinese source and have been trying to figure out the proper use protocol. Best I have come across is reconstituting it with 4ml of BAC and then using it IM at 1-2ml a day for like 10-20. Not tried it as of yet. Was hoping to get some others input before I took the leap!

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      This is the protocol from the MFG.

      https://www.cerebrolysin.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CERE_Dosage-recommendation_CEREINT122018-19.pdf

      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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        ...i may have just grabbed 4 boxes of the Chinese source. I anxiously await your research 🙂

        "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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          You think we can use the official protocol to make the Chinese source work?

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            I acquired some cerebroprotein hydrolysate from harbin medisan pharmaceutical and was wondering if anyone here has played around with the dosing on this stuff?

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              I acquired some cerebroprotein hydrolysate from harbin medisan pharmaceutical and was wondering if anyone here has played around with the dosing on this stuff?

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              @undersc0re said in Cerebrolysin Dosing:

              harbin medisan

              thats exactly what all research companies are selling. The chinese source being discussed in here.

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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              • T Trey Allen

                I've been researching a cognitive stack for a few weeks now... Going to implement this after my midochondrial/metabolic stack finishes. What I've put together so far is:

                P21
                This is a synthetic version of Cerebrolysin that doesn't have to be injected intra-muscular (OUCH!)
                This triggers neuroregenerative effects and structual repair . Kinda like an SS-31 for your brain I think.

                N-Acetyl Semax Amidate (NASA)
                (Not traditional Semax) An enhanced version of Semax that is more stable, lasts longer, and crosses the blood brain barrier more easily. Has a much longer half life (8-12hr vs 3-4 hours for Semax). Boosts BDNF (fertilizer for your brain), protects from oxidative stress.

                ALTERNATIVELY Adamax: This is an even more powerful version of Semax, yet its likely that hair loss effects would be worse due to the hightened BDNF production. More on this below.

                Alpha-GPC: 300-600mg pill. The fuel for your brain engine. Ensures good Choline levels which is fuel for brain and storing memories.

                Selank - produces a steady focus and improves memory. Also helps balance any edgyness from P21 or NASA/Adamax

                Here's a breakdown including 2 more to help balance/counter the side effects of this stack:

                P21 | Repairs Structure | The "renovator"—it provides the growth factors to repair and build new neurons.
                Semax | Assists Signaling | The "manager". It tells the brain to work faster and increases focus/alertness.
                Selank | Stability | The "buffer". It manages stress and anxiety, ensuring the "manager" doesn't get overwhelmed.
                Alpha-GPC | Brain Fuel | This provides the raw choline needed to power the increased brain activity.
                GHK-Cu (Injected SQ) | Hair protector | more BDNF causes temp hair thinning. This helps counteract tjat.
                DUO Hair Growth Serum | GHK-Cu and Zinc-Thymulin | A topical treatment to significantly counter hair thinning effects of more BDNF. This is VERY important if using Adamax instead of NASA!

                Morning (8:00 AM)
                NASA 100mcg – 200mcg (1 spray) Provides "locked-in" focus and mental energy.
                Alpha-GPC 300mg – 600mg Provides the choline "fuel" for the NASA focus.
                P21 (SQ) 250mcg – 500mcg Inject into belly fat. Promotes long-term neurogenesis.

                Mid-Day
                (1:00 PM) Selank 100mcg – 300mcg "Smoothes out" the NASA edge and manages afternoon stress.

                Evening
                (9:00 PM) GHK-Cu (SQ) 1mg – 2mg Systemic repair. Inject into a different site than P21.
                DUO Serum 1 Dropperful Apply to scalp/thinning areas; massage in for 1 min.

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                • RandyR Randy

                  ...i may have just grabbed 4 boxes of the Chinese source. I anxiously await your research 🙂

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                  @Randy said in Cerebrolysin Dosing:

                  ...i may have just grabbed 4 boxes of the Chinese source. I anxiously await your research 🙂

                  @randy @undersc0re

                  Where do you guys get these boxes of the official lyophilized pharma stuff?? I've searched the vendor directory to no avail.
                  Pricewise, this grey market and single vial game is a SIGNIFICANT barrier for some of us. If one can get it direct from source that would be incredibly helpful for us basically in need of cognitive help..🙏🙏

                  Isn't that kinda what this website is about?🤔

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                    @randy hey Jeff.

                    I have the lypholized powder and my Liquid C-bro showed up after being stuck in customs for a while.

                    the powder i was going to do 1-2mg daily for 30 days. (no trauma just looking for cognitive performance)

                    The liquid form i have 5ml vials. should i split those and do 2.5ml daily

                    Thanks

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                      I like the hype on it but seems all the dosing info is way too costly fro my ehem, shal i say thrifty nature

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                      • RandyR Randy

                        PRL-8-53 and Dihexa. Go down that rabbit hole. I cycle dihexa and rip PRL regularly. Less "ums" in my youtube video the more PRL ive blasted.

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                        @Randy
                        Where do you source the PRL, please? Thank you!

                        Retired chemist & pharmacy tech.
                        Seeking lower $/mg, with robust COA’s

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                          Here's a Grey Mkt source: Flourish Global Peptide discord link: https://discord.gg/8UHXgZBn

                          I have received some peptides form FGP (quick shipping, lots of selection, good prices) with no issues but can not speak to Cerebro... cost: $29 for a kit + shipping. Please do your own research to be comfortable ordering from Grey Mkt. I hope it helps.

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                            @Randy
                            Where do you source the PRL, please? Thank you!

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                            @CMEffie17 chi-nah

                            "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                              Southern Amino's claims to have Cerebrolysin: https://southernaminos.com/product/cerebroslyin-60mg/

                              Does anyone know anything about it?

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                                Southern Amino's claims to have Cerebrolysin: https://southernaminos.com/product/cerebroslyin-60mg/

                                Does anyone know anything about it?

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                                @PeptideEd I have both powder and the original liquid in vials, i still havent planned the day to start.

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                                  @Randy I have the lyophilized version from a Chinese source and have been trying to figure out the proper use protocol. Best I have come across is reconstituting it with 4ml of BAC and then using it IM at 1-2ml a day for like 10-20. Not tried it as of yet. Was hoping to get some others input before I took the leap!

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                                  @etalber
                                  I get mine from Lotus Pharmacy out of Boca Raton. Because the ampules do not have a sterilized solution, they urge you to use them immediately upon opening them. However I fill syringes and use 3 mL per day. Rightly or wrongly, I stored the excess in the syringes in my fridge. No problem so far.

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                                    The ampules I have are from the CeleBro manufacturer

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                                      the original Cerebrolysin is EverPharma

                                      attentiion is all you need

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                                        I researched some Harban Medisan Pharma a few months ago. I went back and looked at my AI search on the conversions and listed it here below Basically one 60 mg Vial = one 10ml Cerebrolysyn ampule

                                        I added 6ml sterile water the first vial and split it into 3 shots since most people doing cerebro were doin 1/3 to half an ampule EOD

                                        next 5 vials I just added 4ml so it was 2 ml per shot and did it 2 days on 2 days off instead of EOD. I didn't want to keep the preperation for more than 24 hours reconstituted becasue i used sterile water.

                                        Injections were smooth and painless everytime. It was decent, I would like to try the original for comparison. A couple of days I could feel it, hard to explain like a really good Semx day where everything is clicking productive and mood is positive. Otherwise I noticed improvment in sleep for sure but generally it was very subtle but still noticble overall.

                                        Key Equivalence conversions

                                        The 60 mg on the label refers to total nitrogen content (a standard way these products are quantified), not the total peptide/hydrolysate mass.
                                        • A conversion (based on nitrogen-to-peptide ratios reported for Chinese/generic versions) is: 60 mg nitrogen × ~35 = ~2,100 mg cerebroprotein hydrolysate.
                                        • Brand Cerebrolysin liquid is 215.2 mg concentrate per ml, so 10 ml ≈ 2,152 mg.
                                        • Rough equivalence: One 60 mg vial ≈ 10 ml of standard Cerebrolysin solution

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                                        • CMEffie17C CMEffie17

                                          @Randy
                                          Where do you source the PRL, please? Thank you!

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                                          CapmanCrunch
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                                          @CMEffie17 @Randy
                                          I have 30 mg vials of cerebrolysin that you reconstitute from powder. I also have a kit of it from the greys that I have not gotten into yet. Just started a 1mg per day protocol.
                                          Penguin peptides have the 30 mg vial, and they also have vials of Dihexa that I am going to run soon. This is the first source of Dihexa in an injectable form I have seen. I probably won't start it until I finish this round of cerebrolysin. Anyone try it yet?

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