Any fans of Josh Holyfield and his ZestyRat brand?
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This is the thread that just wont die.
This is the thread that just wont die.
I don’t know why you would ever want this thread to die.
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@researchcat The same story being told over and over 5 months. Besides for that you are right.
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Fair point. I look at it as a rite of passage. I mean, can you really call yourself a researcher if you haven’t been banned from his Skool?

A friend of mine who is still in the Skool sends me his instagram posts sometimes so I can comment on where he stole the quote from, since I know a lot of people in the SD community and he likes to use really badass quotes without attributing them to the people who said them (and who I know.)
Stuff like, Awesome Quote! (Page 99, Meditations on Violence, Miller, 2008)
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Fair point. I look at it as a rite of passage. I mean, can you really call yourself a researcher if you haven’t been banned from his Skool?

A friend of mine who is still in the Skool sends me his instagram posts sometimes so I can comment on where he stole the quote from, since I know a lot of people in the SD community and he likes to use really badass quotes without attributing them to the people who said them (and who I know.)
Stuff like, Awesome Quote! (Page 99, Meditations on Violence, Miller, 2008)
@ResearchCat Is your real name, Will Hunting?
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@shaqdiesel Lol, no, but the guy’s quoting shit I have on a 15 year old t shirt.
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Admission……I was new to peptides and i was AMAZED at the amount of knowledge he could spit out so quickly on anything peptides. I didn’t realize he was using AI to come up with the answers. Now, he was very helpful to me the first month i was on there, until I was banned, lol. Oh well. I found this site and it has loads of information with lots of interesting people contributing.
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I have no hate for the guy at all. He reads great Ai scripts and has figured out a way to sell $10 bottles of peptides for $100 so more power to him. He also put up some GH for sale with with a COA that didn't match it. He is great for noobs and guys that never want to research. Personally if I want kits ill go to Nexaph or Heliabiochem
Personally I draw the line at taking too much advice from people with face tattoos.
I like the following:
Dr Kevin Joseph, DO
Dr Alex Tatem, MD
Dr Amin Hedayat (excellent), PHD, MD
Dr Brad Stanfield, MD
Jacob Nachinson (gymbro)
Nick Trigili (gymbro but BB pro)
Hunter Williams
I have no hate for the guy at all. He reads great Ai scripts and has figured out a way to sell $10 bottles of peptides for $100 so more power to him. He also put up some GH for sale with with a COA that didn't match it. He is great for noobs and guys that never want to research. Personally if I want kits ill go to Nexaph or Heliabiochem
Personally I draw the line at taking too much advice from people with face tattoos.
I like the following:
Dr Kevin Joseph, DO
Dr Alex Tatem, MD
Dr Amin Hedayat (excellent), PHD, MD
Dr Brad Stanfield, MD
Jacob Nachinson (gymbro)
Nick Trigili (gymbro but BB pro)
Hunter Williams
Thanks for the list. I really like Tatem.
Trigili I have listened to but I kringe at his pronunciation of many words, realistically he is VERY much like Holyfield just with less to actually sell.
I do listen to Hunter too but suspect most retired NFL players mention their football career less, reminds me of an acquaintance who was a private detective briefly and then did police academy, then got bounced for a restraining order and 20+years later still brings up his "law enforcement history" -
I have no hate for the guy at all. He reads great Ai scripts and has figured out a way to sell $10 bottles of peptides for $100 so more power to him. He also put up some GH for sale with with a COA that didn't match it. He is great for noobs and guys that never want to research. Personally if I want kits ill go to Nexaph or Heliabiochem
Personally I draw the line at taking too much advice from people with face tattoos.
I like the following:
Dr Kevin Joseph, DO
Dr Alex Tatem, MD
Dr Amin Hedayat (excellent), PHD, MD
Dr Brad Stanfield, MD
Jacob Nachinson (gymbro)
Nick Trigili (gymbro but BB pro)
Hunter Williams
Thanks for the list. I really like Tatem.
Trigili I have listened to but I kringe at his pronunciation of many words, realistically he is VERY much like Holyfield just with less to actually sell.
I do listen to Hunter too but suspect most retired NFL players mention their football career less, reminds me of an acquaintance who was a private detective briefly and then did police academy, then got bounced for a restraining order and 20+years later still brings up his "law enforcement history"b0bb said:
I have no hate for the guy at all. He reads great Ai scripts and has figured out a way to sell $10 bottles of peptides for $100 so more power to him. He also put up some GH for sale with with a COA that didn't match it. He is great for noobs and guys that never want to research. Personally if I want kits ill go to Nexaph or Heliabiochem
Personally I draw the line at taking too much advice from people with face tattoos.
I like the following:
Dr Kevin Joseph, DO
Dr Alex Tatem, MD
Dr Amin Hedayat (excellent), PHD, MD
Dr Brad Stanfield, MD
Jacob Nachinson (gymbro)
Nick Trigili (gymbro but BB pro)
Hunter Williams
Thanks for the list. I really like Tatem.
Trigili I have listened to but I kringe at his pronunciation of many words, realistically he is VERY much like Holyfield just with less to actually sell.
I do listen to Hunter too but suspect most retired NFL players mention their football career less, reminds me of an acquaintance who was a private detective briefly and then did police academy, then got bounced for a restraining order and 20+years later still brings up his "law enforcement history"Thats fair. Nick is dialed and has "done it" more than most other guys. He actually looks good too. Josh Holyfield honestly doesn't actually look good, always lookin puffy and it about 5'7. Me and Nick are around the same size.
Hunter I dont think ever actually played NFL. Just college.
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I used to be. Solid free education for sure. But zestyrat got really shady, and I gave them every chance to come clean, and they showed no interest in doing so. This is after spending $5000 in the past 5 months there.
The more viles you buy, the more of a bulk discount you get. Standard stuff for a lot of sites. Well I also get a 10% discount if I use the affiliate code of the individual that referred me to them. Been doing that for months now. Recently I was about to place an order of 10 viles of bpc and 10 viles of tb. That gets you the 20% bulk discount. I then added my 10% discount code and it said that it was successfully applied. Except I noticed that as soon as I "successfully" out in my 10% code, they jacked up the cost of the viles to make the total price the same as before I put in the 10% discount. So they are pretending to have that discount now, and hoping nobody notices. I like to assume the best in people, so I brought it to their attention. They confirmed it, said they have no date planned to fix it, and twice suggested I go ahead with my purchase using the bulk discount. I haven't experienced such unaware dishonest business practices like this yet in the peptide space, and was shocked to see it from a high profile guy like Holyfield. I have screenshots of everything I claim here if anyone needs the evidence, but I'd rather not proactively put them up here right now.
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I used to be. Solid free education for sure. But zestyrat got really shady, and I gave them every chance to come clean, and they showed no interest in doing so. This is after spending $5000 in the past 5 months there.
The more viles you buy, the more of a bulk discount you get. Standard stuff for a lot of sites. Well I also get a 10% discount if I use the affiliate code of the individual that referred me to them. Been doing that for months now. Recently I was about to place an order of 10 viles of bpc and 10 viles of tb. That gets you the 20% bulk discount. I then added my 10% discount code and it said that it was successfully applied. Except I noticed that as soon as I "successfully" out in my 10% code, they jacked up the cost of the viles to make the total price the same as before I put in the 10% discount. So they are pretending to have that discount now, and hoping nobody notices. I like to assume the best in people, so I brought it to their attention. They confirmed it, said they have no date planned to fix it, and twice suggested I go ahead with my purchase using the bulk discount. I haven't experienced such unaware dishonest business practices like this yet in the peptide space, and was shocked to see it from a high profile guy like Holyfield. I have screenshots of everything I claim here if anyone needs the evidence, but I'd rather not proactively put them up here right now.
@jasoncicchelli Sorry you learned an expensive lesson and didn't continue down that path. The guy is a jacked up scammer. Just go to the vendor index on here and order from a real Vendor
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I used to be. Solid free education for sure. But zestyrat got really shady, and I gave them every chance to come clean, and they showed no interest in doing so. This is after spending $5000 in the past 5 months there.
The more viles you buy, the more of a bulk discount you get. Standard stuff for a lot of sites. Well I also get a 10% discount if I use the affiliate code of the individual that referred me to them. Been doing that for months now. Recently I was about to place an order of 10 viles of bpc and 10 viles of tb. That gets you the 20% bulk discount. I then added my 10% discount code and it said that it was successfully applied. Except I noticed that as soon as I "successfully" out in my 10% code, they jacked up the cost of the viles to make the total price the same as before I put in the 10% discount. So they are pretending to have that discount now, and hoping nobody notices. I like to assume the best in people, so I brought it to their attention. They confirmed it, said they have no date planned to fix it, and twice suggested I go ahead with my purchase using the bulk discount. I haven't experienced such unaware dishonest business practices like this yet in the peptide space, and was shocked to see it from a high profile guy like Holyfield. I have screenshots of everything I claim here if anyone needs the evidence, but I'd rather not proactively put them up here right now.
@jasoncicchelli Yeah, and he won’t provide COAs on his products, either. That is a minimum requirement, in my mind, now that I know better.
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@jasoncicchelli Yeah, and he won’t provide COAs on his products, either. That is a minimum requirement, in my mind, now that I know better.
@jackiee According to him COA's are a mistake we shouldn't want them. What a tool. This guy has zero credibility. Self proclaimed most knowledgeable person on peptides, but I only use 3. Get out here with this guy. The problem is people just starting out are looking for information and end up with unethical people like this guy as their source of information. Unfortunately the peptide business lends itself to some of the biggest low lifes and we have to sift through them. Thank you peptide critic for helping us navigate this mindfield
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The glorious and undying nature of this thread is spectacular!
Stories like this really make me wonder. It’s a lot of work to be so openly dishonest. I guess it must be worth it, but I have generally found it easier to be a fair dealer in all things. And I sleep well at night. Generally.
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@jackiee According to him COA's are a mistake we shouldn't want them. What a tool. This guy has zero credibility. Self proclaimed most knowledgeable person on peptides, but I only use 3. Get out here with this guy. The problem is people just starting out are looking for information and end up with unethical people like this guy as their source of information. Unfortunately the peptide business lends itself to some of the biggest low lifes and we have to sift through them. Thank you peptide critic for helping us navigate this mindfield
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The thread that wont die.
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@jackiee According to him COA's are a mistake we shouldn't want them. What a tool. This guy has zero credibility. Self proclaimed most knowledgeable person on peptides, but I only use 3. Get out here with this guy. The problem is people just starting out are looking for information and end up with unethical people like this guy as their source of information. Unfortunately the peptide business lends itself to some of the biggest low lifes and we have to sift through them. Thank you peptide critic for helping us navigate this mindfield
@jackiee According to him COA's are a mistake we shouldn't want them. What a tool. This guy has zero credibility. Self proclaimed most knowledgeable person on peptides, but I only use 3. Get out here with this guy. The problem is people just starting out are looking for information and end up with unethical people like this guy as their source of information. Unfortunately the peptide business lends itself to some of the biggest low lifes and we have to sift through them. Thank you peptide critic for helping us navigate this mindfield
100%. I couldn't agree more with everything you just said about him and this whole industry.
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The thread that wont die.
@Mydogdaryl423 Its unfortunate people continue to get screwed over by this lowlife. Hopefully new people find this thread and stay away
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I found him about a month into my peptide journey. Unfortunately, I found him after Trevor Bachmeyer (not a doctor, lol). Once I found this site, it confirmed to me that TB was a blowhard windbag.
Funny, I used to read Reddit and Skool communities and watch a ton of yt videos. Now, i read here and watch a few YT videos. I stay away from the rest.
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