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If reta exists, why do you still research sema or tirz?

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  • ResearchCatR Offline
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    ResearchCat
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    I don’t even know what to do with that. The research I have seen is done with 120-150mg taken orally on a daily basis.

    Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

    If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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    • ResearchCatR ResearchCat

      Some people have reactions or side effects with reta, and a lot of people have better appetite and other desire suppression with Tirz. I am on the lowest dose of Tirz and don’t see a particularly compelling reason to switch. I might at some point.

      When NA-931 becomes available, I will be all over that.

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      @ResearchCat I’m right there with ya. Been on compounded Tirzepatide since December, was on 2.125 mg for three and a half months before I moved up to 4.25 mg, that I’m still on today. I’ve lost 61 lbs with Tirzepatide and like you, see no reason to switch to Reta.

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      • Stan DouglasS Offline
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        Long Story: My doctor put me on Zepbound [tirz] 2.5, Started getting hungry after 6 weeks so she bumped it to 5mg. I've maintained a 2lb. a week loss for 3 months.
        I've taken my last Zep today and have 5 Triz in my freezer right now because it is 1/5 the price. At this rate, assuming I stay at 5mg per week, I should hit my goals.
        I'll ween myself off the last few weeks, see how I do. If I need a maintenance dose I'll give Reta a try.

        Short Story: I started on Triz and it's been working for me.

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          That’s awesome! I am glad to hear your success stories with Tirzepatide!

          Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

          If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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            Bil
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            I started on Tirz in Oct, down 85lbs and hit a stall at 15mg that I've been stuck at for 2 months. Reading through the forum I saw Randy’s “ghetto” Reta stack and decided to give that a try. Going to add 2mg of Maz to see if I can break through it. Will try Reta, if all else fails but have been super happy with the Tirz.

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              cami
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              I saw that increased heart rate was a known side effect of reta, and I already have anxiety to do that for me. 🙂 I'm on week 4 of tirz now and feel great, so I'm not interested in stopping it anytime soon!

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              • B Bil

                I started on Tirz in Oct, down 85lbs and hit a stall at 15mg that I've been stuck at for 2 months. Reading through the forum I saw Randy’s “ghetto” Reta stack and decided to give that a try. Going to add 2mg of Maz to see if I can break through it. Will try Reta, if all else fails but have been super happy with the Tirz.

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                @Bil said in If reta exists, why do you still research sema or tirz?:

                I started on Tirz in Oct, down 85lbs and hit a stall at 15mg that I've been stuck at for 2 months. Reading through the forum I saw Randy’s “ghetto” Reta stack and decided to give that a try. Going to add 2mg of Maz to see if I can break through it. Will try Reta, if all else fails but have been super happy with the Tirz.

                Have you or anyone tried Tirz + Survo stack? AI chats say Survo binds to Glucagon stronger than Reta and the latest phase 3 results I think show that although net percent weight loss might be lower Survo selectively torches fat through glucagon agonism and tends to spare muscles better. Which sounds quite good.

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                  And price and dosing wise Survo tends to be a lot cheaper than Maz.

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                    I researched both and ended up back where I started with tirz, less inflammation and autoimmune pain, better focus from lack of food noise.

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                      Splinter
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                      Thanks for all the responses. Learning about upcoming compounds makes sense why people will be comfortable with what they’re finding success with.

                      I understand cause I’m happy with Reta, and don’t see a need to mess with na-931 😅

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                        @Bil said in If reta exists, why do you still research sema or tirz?:

                        I started on Tirz in Oct, down 85lbs and hit a stall at 15mg that I've been stuck at for 2 months. Reading through the forum I saw Randy’s “ghetto” Reta stack and decided to give that a try. Going to add 2mg of Maz to see if I can break through it. Will try Reta, if all else fails but have been super happy with the Tirz.

                        Have you or anyone tried Tirz + Survo stack? AI chats say Survo binds to Glucagon stronger than Reta and the latest phase 3 results I think show that although net percent weight loss might be lower Survo selectively torches fat through glucagon agonism and tends to spare muscles better. Which sounds quite good.

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                        @pep_researcher I have not tried the Tirz+ Survo stack, but thats the next option. The muscle sparing is interesting I’ll have to look into that more. I went with the Maz because it was the smoother stack as far as appetite suppression. I got enough to research for 2 months, if I haven’t hit my goals will reset and research the Survo.

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                          space
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                          Why not research combinations? Triz did not have the appetite suppression at moderate dosage I was looking for. Everything else was great, so a small dose of Sema picks up the slack.

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                          • C Commander

                            I think that every time I read a post about Tirz..

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                            @Commander i Stay on Mounjaro (Tirz) because with my insurance my 10mg 4 pen set costs me only $25

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                              no appetite what so ever on reta. personally dont need any more help in that department. which i have pretty much all the glp1s easily available. but never seen the need? thats why ive been looking into stuff like gh, mots, mitochondria uncouplers and ampk modulators. like bam and atx304 etc. then the real final frontier is when i can see more first hand accounts with the trevogrumab/garetasumab combo. i need the muscle gain to match the fat loss. 40 more pounds to go and im not asking anymore

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                              • S Splinter

                                As the subject states.

                                If Reta exists and is the best, why does anyone buying grey still mess with sema or tirz?

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                                @Splinter reta doesnt calm food noise as well as tirz. Its not "better" it's different...they also documented more muscle wasting with reta towards the end of the last trial.

                                Theyre both great but milage may vary

                                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                                  @Bil said in If reta exists, why do you still research sema or tirz?:

                                  I started on Tirz in Oct, down 85lbs and hit a stall at 15mg that I've been stuck at for 2 months. Reading through the forum I saw Randy’s “ghetto” Reta stack and decided to give that a try. Going to add 2mg of Maz to see if I can break through it. Will try Reta, if all else fails but have been super happy with the Tirz.

                                  Have you or anyone tried Tirz + Survo stack? AI chats say Survo binds to Glucagon stronger than Reta and the latest phase 3 results I think show that although net percent weight loss might be lower Survo selectively torches fat through glucagon agonism and tends to spare muscles better. Which sounds quite good.

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                                  @pep_researcher im on it. Love it

                                  "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                  • RandyR Randy

                                    @pep_researcher im on it. Love it

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                                    @Randy Great! I started 2 weeks ago by lowering T dose and adding very small S dose. Will titrate S up slowly by keeping T the same.

                                    Would love to exchange notes. 🙂

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                                    • pep_researcherP pep_researcher

                                      @Randy Great! I started 2 weeks ago by lowering T dose and adding very small S dose. Will titrate S up slowly by keeping T the same.

                                      Would love to exchange notes. 🙂

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                                      @pep_researcher 15t and 4 survo plus a little cag over here. Im researching 🤙🏻

                                      "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                      • RandyR Randy

                                        @pep_researcher 15t and 4 survo plus a little cag over here. Im researching 🤙🏻

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                                        @Randy said in If reta exists, why do you still research sema or tirz?:

                                        @pep_researcher 15t and 4 survo plus a little cag over here. Im researching 🤙🏻

                                        I dropped Tirz from 10mg to 4.5-5mg and added 0.4mg Survo three days from tirz shot.

                                        10mg tirz gave me a lot of fatigue to the extent of not being able to work.

                                        Cagri low dose left me feeling fatigued. It helped me get out of the tirz stall. But I stopped it after 8 weeks of finishing vial.

                                        I want Glucagon benefits so added Survo.

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                                        • Sable DarqnessS Offline
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                                          I've been suplimenting my Tirz with the Cagri, I will say the nois is down but if i choose to eat I can plus no midnight emergency trips to the john either . win win

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