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Opinion/experience on MOTS-C cycle/protocol

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    Hammertime65
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    So if I'm taking a methyl B complex, I should be covered once I start nad?

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    • Hammertime65H Hammertime65

      So if I'm taking a methyl B complex, I should be covered once I start nad?

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      vpeptides
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      @Hammertime65 check yourself by testing for homocysteine levels. I brought mine down from 11-12 to 7 by using tmg etc.

      attentiion is all you need

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      • vpeptidesV vpeptides

        @Hammertime65 check yourself by testing for homocysteine levels. I brought mine down from 11-12 to 7 by using tmg etc.

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        @vpeptides Blood test?

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          @vpeptides Blood test?

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          @Hammertime65

          yes, blood test

          attentiion is all you need

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          • C Christopher

            @Lady-Hamilton
            I personally 'researched' MOTS-C from a couple of different vendors and tried low doses, various injection sites, etc - and every time I ended up with a super unpleasant histamine reaction (beyond a local injection site response) that seemed to get worse with progressive use. MOTS-C is just not for me I guess 🙂
            From what I've read, this isn't necessarily unique to me, so my advice would be to start low to gauge your tolerance first.

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            Paradox
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            @christexer What was your injection site(s)? Burned like crazy for me in abdominal, same as GHK-CU. I tried Upper Glutes and the pain was almost nonexistent.

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            • C Christopher

              @Lady-Hamilton
              I personally 'researched' MOTS-C from a couple of different vendors and tried low doses, various injection sites, etc - and every time I ended up with a super unpleasant histamine reaction (beyond a local injection site response) that seemed to get worse with progressive use. MOTS-C is just not for me I guess 🙂
              From what I've read, this isn't necessarily unique to me, so my advice would be to start low to gauge your tolerance first.

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              davidishere
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              @christexer once you have correct dosage in syringe, add BAC water to the syringe to dilute it.

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                carlbartz
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                I am currently taking 2mg 3x week ( working up to 3.3mg ). I do this preworkout in the AM, and try to target cardio days. I know I've taken it as I start sweating a little earlier in my workout than normal. No heart rate increase or higher breath rate, it's just like Im a little more warmed up when I start my workout.

                Also taking ( buffered ) NAD - I find ( at least for me ) that NAD has a more energizing effect.

                Definitely would not take MOTS-C in the late afternoon/evening ( before sleep ).

                I did get a skin reaction at first. I backed the dosage down and added more BAC water.

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                  @hammertime65 - I could be incorrect but I believe the methyl groups getting diminished by NAD was if you are taking oral NAD. Your liver adds chains to the NAD that it doesn't immediately absorb before releasing it for the rest of the body, and the rest of your system can deplete methyl groups getting the NAD back to a state where it can be used by the cells.

                  Injected NAD bypasses the liver.

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                    @hammertime65 - I could be incorrect but I believe the methyl groups getting diminished by NAD was if you are taking oral NAD. Your liver adds chains to the NAD that it doesn't immediately absorb before releasing it for the rest of the body, and the rest of your system can deplete methyl groups getting the NAD back to a state where it can be used by the cells.

                    Injected NAD bypasses the liver.

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                    @dogwalker (checked with AI)
                    While injecting or infusing NAD+ bypasses liver "first-pass" metabolism to raise blood levels quickly, your body must still degrade and recycle the excess.

                    The Methylation Process: When excess NAD+ or its byproduct, Nicotinamide (NAM), circulates, the body upregulates an enzyme called NNMT (Nicotinamide N-methyltransferase). This enzyme safely disposes of excess NAM, but doing so requires methyl donors (primarily SAM-e, which provides the methyl group) to create MeNAM.

                    The Result: If large, therapeutic doses of NAD+ are administered, this continuous excretion process can drain the body's methyl pool.

                    attentiion is all you need

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                      Take TMG!

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