Wolverine Plus stack
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@Stevepep Good to hear you're back in action. I'm thinking about Wolverine for my knee and the joints and ligments around a hip replacement. Can't decide between Wolverine and Cartalax. Will see.
@Eleanor It works I am a runner and work out at Orange Theory. My Knees hurt, my hip hurts, and three weeks ago I hurt my back deadlifting. I heard it pop. I couldn't get out of bed all I could do was roll over, and that was extremely painful. Within 4 days I was walking with some pain and now I am back at it. Running and working out with zero pain and the amazing thing is no more knee and hip pain its gone. Its really a miracle treatment. I worry that Pharma wants this stuff gone because their business is treating the symptoms, not a cure like this is. They want to sell Oxy and cover it up. Pharma is evil; they don't want a healthy society, the more unhealthy we are, the more they prosper.
I was aggressive with 1000mcg's to start and have backed down to 800 and next week to 600. After 8 weeks i will cycle at least, that's the plan
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@Eleanor It works I am a runner and work out at Orange Theory. My Knees hurt, my hip hurts, and three weeks ago I hurt my back deadlifting. I heard it pop. I couldn't get out of bed all I could do was roll over, and that was extremely painful. Within 4 days I was walking with some pain and now I am back at it. Running and working out with zero pain and the amazing thing is no more knee and hip pain its gone. Its really a miracle treatment. I worry that Pharma wants this stuff gone because their business is treating the symptoms, not a cure like this is. They want to sell Oxy and cover it up. Pharma is evil; they don't want a healthy society, the more unhealthy we are, the more they prosper.
I was aggressive with 1000mcg's to start and have backed down to 800 and next week to 600. After 8 weeks i will cycle at least, that's the plan
@Stevepep Oh Yeah! Sounds like you've got it covered. Where my knees are concerned, I think it's more meniscus and my glutes are weak because I have a job that requires a lot of sitting. With regard to hip & shoulder, definitely scar tissue that's blocking movement.
Did you inject directly into the pain site, or belly, per the usual protocols out there?
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@Stevepep Oh Yeah! Sounds like you've got it covered. Where my knees are concerned, I think it's more meniscus and my glutes are weak because I have a job that requires a lot of sitting. With regard to hip & shoulder, definitely scar tissue that's blocking movement.
Did you inject directly into the pain site, or belly, per the usual protocols out there?
@Eleanor I injected into the pain but now just the belly area since the pain is gone. There is a wide receiver in the NFL who had a hamstring injury which[link text](link url) is a 3 month injury`he was back on the field in 3 weeks. It was on Joe Rogan. By the way he is great on peptides he had Zuckerberg on who had some injury and was felling him get on Wolverine.
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This is purely anecdotal but I tore a glute or pinoformis about 4 weeks ago and have been researching Klow during that period - sometimes doubling up. While the pain has been miserable and the injury debilitating, it feels like it is almost recovered and I am back to 80-90%. In the past, such injuries would take me months to recover and my leg would still be black from bruising.
It has also caused me to completely rethink ‘proper’ dosing, which i think is way to low for - ahem - seasoned athletes like myself. This week I will be mixing Super Klow (wolverine + Klow) and starting that next week to see if it does what I think it will do.
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Klowverine?
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@Eleanor I injected into the pain but now just the belly area since the pain is gone. There is a wide receiver in the NFL who had a hamstring injury which[link text](link url) is a 3 month injury`he was back on the field in 3 weeks. It was on Joe Rogan. By the way he is great on peptides he had Zuckerberg on who had some injury and was felling him get on Wolverine.
@Stevepep I'm happy to hear you're healing well!
I'm not going to inject directly into the knee but just above it and hope gravity does its job, as it has with the rest of me
. Not sure what to do about the shoulder area.I'm starting Cartalax shortly, then, when I get the $$$$$ saved, I'll do a Wolverine via separate injections BPC157/TB4.
Yeah, Rogan pushes peptides pretty hard, which is good; the future of Medicine is in peptides. Unfortunately, I think it will be taken over and placed out of reach of those struggling with health issues who've already spent their life savings in the so-called Health "Care" system. Don't get me wrong, a good Dr. can save your life, but as far as achieving true health and longevity, they are few and far between. Pharma/govt shut them down. I've been through that journey with Lyme Disease for over 13 years.
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@eleanor I generally inject centrally, as I have not noticed a difference injecting site-specific over centrally. That being said, when i have an acute injury and I double up, I might do one local and another centrally. I don’t think it hurts either way, but what research I have seen indicates BPC/TB5 diffuse systemically quite rapidly.
As stated elsewhere, I think the bigger challenge for this protocol is that recommended/standard dosing protocols is actually very low and higher doses are both tolerable and very effective.
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I badly hurt my lower back deadlifting so bad I couldn't move. I just stayed in bed. I did BPC57/tb500 3mg per day into my back i switched sides each day in the general area of the pain I could only roll over on my side, and that was excruciating. Two days later I walking with pain. Two weeks later back to Orange Theory 4 days per week running 3.5 miles per session. It was stiff but doable. I am now at 4 weeks zero pain and my nagging knee pain is gone. PEPTODES ARE THE FUTURE. This site and Randy are changing people's lives. I just hope our government doesn't mess this up and screw up what has made so many people healthier so Pharma can sell more pain meds.
About to order more pens.
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I badly hurt my lower back deadlifting so bad I couldn't move. I just stayed in bed. I did BPC57/tb500 3mg per day into my back i switched sides each day in the general area of the pain I could only roll over on my side, and that was excruciating. Two days later I walking with pain. Two weeks later back to Orange Theory 4 days per week running 3.5 miles per session. It was stiff but doable. I am now at 4 weeks zero pain and my nagging knee pain is gone. PEPTODES ARE THE FUTURE. This site and Randy are changing people's lives. I just hope our government doesn't mess this up and screw up what has made so many people healthier so Pharma can sell more pain meds.
About to order more pens.
@Stevepep hopefully you are not doing touch and go deads, that will eventually get you. I have seen a lot of people hurt themselves doing touch and go, and then blame deadlifts for their spinal issues.I have never had an issue doing deadlifts, now sneezing or tying my shoe can be sketchy
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@eleanor I generally inject centrally, as I have not noticed a difference injecting site-specific over centrally. That being said, when i have an acute injury and I double up, I might do one local and another centrally. I don’t think it hurts either way, but what research I have seen indicates BPC/TB5 diffuse systemically quite rapidly.
As stated elsewhere, I think the bigger challenge for this protocol is that recommended/standard dosing protocols is actually very low and higher doses are both tolerable and very effective.
@eleanor I generally inject centrally, as I have not noticed a difference injecting site-specific over centrally. That being said, when i have an acute injury and I double up, I might do one local and another centrally. I don’t think it hurts either way, but what research I have seen indicates BPC/TB5 diffuse systemically quite rapidly.
As stated elsewhere, I think the bigger challenge for this protocol is that recommended/standard dosing protocols is actually very low and higher doses are both tolerable and very effective.
Good to know for when I start that protocol later this Summer. Got to watch video again of mixing a couple different peps in one. Wondering if GHK & BCP can work together and pop TB4 separately? Any ideas?
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I think you are safe doing those any way you want to given that they are available as blends. I am a blunt instrument so I would research Klow and then research more Klow. Maybe add wolverine to my Klow. I think they forgot in the notes to point out that if you are not a 22 year old looksmaxxer, but are pushing 60 aren refuse to quit, you may benefit from bathtub volumes of the stuff rather than micrograms.
A bit of detail on them: BPC is ‘somewhat’ localized, meaning it can diffuse locally before systematically with caveats, while TH5 generally doesn’t benefit from localized injection. People try different things and see what they think works best. Ultimately, using them is going to be highly beneficial in my experience.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor; I am not even a serious person. Happy researching!
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I think you are safe doing those any way you want to given that they are available as blends. I am a blunt instrument so I would research Klow and then research more Klow. Maybe add wolverine to my Klow. I think they forgot in the notes to point out that if you are not a 22 year old looksmaxxer, but are pushing 60 aren refuse to quit, you may benefit from bathtub volumes of the stuff rather than micrograms.
A bit of detail on them: BPC is ‘somewhat’ localized, meaning it can diffuse locally before systematically with caveats, while TH5 generally doesn’t benefit from localized injection. People try different things and see what they think works best. Ultimately, using them is going to be highly beneficial in my experience.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor; I am not even a serious person. Happy researching!
@ResearchCat Ok, I'm confused. You say "TH5", I thought it was TB4? I really want to avoid KLOW, as I have so much GHK & GLOW; just can't spend the bucks.
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@Stevepep hopefully you are not doing touch and go deads, that will eventually get you. I have seen a lot of people hurt themselves doing touch and go, and then blame deadlifts for their spinal issues.I have never had an issue doing deadlifts, now sneezing or tying my shoe can be sketchy
@cyst3m No it was on me bad form. I just finished a long run and decided to finish up with some deadlifts. I went heavy and had bad form on my last tired rep and immediately felt it. I felt a pop. Within an hour, I couldn't move without excruciating pain. Its 3 weeks later and I ran 4 miles and then worked out for 45 minutes with zero pain anywhere. I feel terrific. Wolverine is a game changer
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@cyst3m No it was on me bad form. I just finished a long run and decided to finish up with some deadlifts. I went heavy and had bad form on my last tired rep and immediately felt it. I felt a pop. Within an hour, I couldn't move without excruciating pain. Its 3 weeks later and I ran 4 miles and then worked out for 45 minutes with zero pain anywhere. I feel terrific. Wolverine is a game changer
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@ResearchCat Ok, I'm confused. You say "TH5", I thought it was TB4? I really want to avoid KLOW, as I have so much GHK & GLOW; just can't spend the bucks.
@Eleanor you could buy Glow if you have a lot of ghk cu
glow=BPC 157, TB500, KPV
GLOW IS KLOW -GHK CU -
@Eleanor you could buy Glow if you have a lot of ghk cu
glow=BPC 157, TB500, KPV
GLOW IS KLOW -GHK CU@brandenscheidecker
I've got it. Waiting to finish the vial of GHK before I start it.
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@brandenscheidecker You have that backwards: Glow is BPC/TB500/GHK-Cu. Klow adds KPV.
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@eleanor Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you. I type bad sometimes.
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thanks for catching that ResearchCat! I have a kit of ea of them but use everything individually.
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@eleanor Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you. I type bad sometimes.
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