Parrox Bacteriostatic Water
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Actually used that myself, because of availability, until I realized deionized water is different from sterile water: https://theberkey.com/blogs/water-filter/the-difference-between-sterile-distilled-and-deionized-water
@damic Yup most of these online BAC water sellers use deionized water, including Lambda.
A researcher is better off using just sterile water with asceptic handling techniques than getting some random BAC waters from online sellers.
You can use sterile water just NEVER REPOKE the noodle once it's out of the water bottle and touches anything else including peptide vial top.
The rule goes for H BAC too. I have never thrown away my H BAC after 30 days. Always used it till the end (which is usually 3-4 months) and have never had recon or research issues.
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@damic Yup most of these online BAC water sellers use deionized water, including Lambda.
A researcher is better off using just sterile water with asceptic handling techniques than getting some random BAC waters from online sellers.
You can use sterile water just NEVER REPOKE the noodle once it's out of the water bottle and touches anything else including peptide vial top.
The rule goes for H BAC too. I have never thrown away my H BAC after 30 days. Always used it till the end (which is usually 3-4 months) and have never had recon or research issues.
@pep_researcher You could get some 10mL single use vials of sterile water and some USP, NF, pure grade Benzyl Alcohol, do a little math then make your own 0.9% Bacteriostatic water.
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@pep_researcher You could get some 10mL single use vials of sterile water and some USP, NF, pure grade Benzyl Alcohol, do a little math then make your own 0.9% Bacteriostatic water.
@pep_researcher You could get some 10mL single use vials of sterile water and some USP, NF, pure grade Benzyl Alcohol, do a little math then make your own 0.9% Bacteriostatic water.
I know! I have enough tools in my research kit to crank up my own ghetto BAC water lab, for 1/5th of the H BAC cost. Just can't sell for liability reasons. lol
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@damic Yup most of these online BAC water sellers use deionized water, including Lambda.
A researcher is better off using just sterile water with asceptic handling techniques than getting some random BAC waters from online sellers.
You can use sterile water just NEVER REPOKE the noodle once it's out of the water bottle and touches anything else including peptide vial top.
The rule goes for H BAC too. I have never thrown away my H BAC after 30 days. Always used it till the end (which is usually 3-4 months) and have never had recon or research issues.
@pep_researcher great post I have been stretching my BAC now for 3 months and no issues. It’s hard to use 30ml’s. I just buy two bottles at a time from a local clinic for $14 total. No way am I spending $300 on a case of 25 to have 8 years of expired BAC water. I wonder what the legality is of selling this stuff it’s so cheap to source in Bulk if you have an NPI. You can buy a pallet and it works out to about $5 a bottle and then sell it for $15-$16 to us idiots.
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@pep_researcher great post I have been stretching my BAC now for 3 months and no issues. It’s hard to use 30ml’s. I just buy two bottles at a time from a local clinic for $14 total. No way am I spending $300 on a case of 25 to have 8 years of expired BAC water. I wonder what the legality is of selling this stuff it’s so cheap to source in Bulk if you have an NPI. You can buy a pallet and it works out to about $5 a bottle and then sell it for $15-$16 to us idiots.
@Stevepep They are all using loopholes of course. But how are you able to source it locally so cheap? Did you get a prescription from a provider? I checked generally with the local pharmacies around me like CVS or Walgreens and they don't even carry it.
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@Stevepep They are all using loopholes of course. But how are you able to source it locally so cheap? Did you get a prescription from a provider? I checked generally with the local pharmacies around me like CVS or Walgreens and they don't even carry it.
@pep_researcher a medical clinic.I have a friend who gets it from a tattoo parlor I didn’t even know they used it. I think they do Botox and stuff like that.
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@pep_researcher a medical clinic.I have a friend who gets it from a tattoo parlor I didn’t even know they used it. I think they do Botox and stuff like that.
@Stevepep Wow. Let me look around my location.
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EZ peptides has BAC water and a COA.
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@pep_researcher a medical clinic.I have a friend who gets it from a tattoo parlor I didn’t even know they used it. I think they do Botox and stuff like that.
@Stevepep What kind of medical clinic? Can you give me some more pointers so I can look around my location?
I'm very intrigued by your finding and want to resolve this problem for myself, especially after I've started running stacks, my consumption has gone up significantly.
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@Stevepep What kind of medical clinic? Can you give me some more pointers so I can look around my location?
I'm very intrigued by your finding and want to resolve this problem for myself, especially after I've started running stacks, my consumption has gone up significantly.
@pep_researcher Messaged you
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I have purchased it and I love the packaging and it seems to be doing exactly what it needs too! I purchased the 30ml vials! I gave my sister the other one but i dont have anything to complain about with the purchase [alt text](image url
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Now reading this thread, I feel sheepish....
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@cracycarrie I see Parrox popping up in several forums, it's quite popular and is working. Don't feel sheepish
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Just keep in mind that the marketing and cool packaging costs more than the stuff in the bottle, and that is what you’re paying for. As with many vendors, it’s the seeming of legitimacy.
That being said, if you’re happy with it, carry on.
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No need to do this but as a public service I ordered Parrox, Lambda and have hospira, I am going to have my guys test them against each other for ph. TDS, Brix and put them all under a high powered microscope to see if there is any particulate matter or micro organisms. We have lab grade equipment in a sanitary environment. I will constitute the lambda in GHK-CU and see what happens. Since someone said it turned it to sludge. Give me about a week. I will take lots of photos so there are receipts. So sick of the Hospira is some miracle solution so let’s see what happens.
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I don’t think people think Hospira is a miracle solution; I think people just know that when you buy Hospira bac water, they’re actually getting bac water. Even if you test Brand X and show that it is ph balanced bac water with no junk, just like gray market peptides, nobody has any assurances the next batch will also be clean, because you don’t know where it is coming from.
Certainty, transparency, and confidence has value. You can’t simply generate that overnight.
I appreciate that everyone is cheap and can compartmentalize, but running whatever cheap crap you can find on Amazon for $8 when you’re spending thousands of dollars a year (or maybe a month) on peptides is like putting K-Mart motor oil in your Ferrari to save money.
People are free to do what they want. I want less to worry about.
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I don’t think people think Hospira is a miracle solution; I think people just know that when you buy Hospira bac water, they’re actually getting bac water. Even if you test Brand X and show that it is ph balanced bac water with no junk, just like gray market peptides, nobody has any assurances the next batch will also be clean, because you don’t know where it is coming from.
Certainty, transparency, and confidence has value. You can’t simply generate that overnight.
I appreciate that everyone is cheap and can compartmentalize, but running whatever cheap crap you can find on Amazon for $8 when you’re spending thousands of dollars a year (or maybe a month) on peptides is like putting K-Mart motor oil in your Ferrari to save money.
People are free to do what they want. I want less to worry about.
@ResearchCat
You are so right.
Also if BAC is so easy to make, why are people saying they had problems mixing certain peptides with these other BAC water and not Hospira. If I buy back water I should not have any problems mixing anything I can mix with Hospira. It can’t be as good, if I can’t use it for the same things.
I am very curious what the hospitals in other countries use for BAC if they don’t have Hospira. Those would be worth looking into… -
I don’t think people think Hospira is a miracle solution; I think people just know that when you buy Hospira bac water, they’re actually getting bac water. Even if you test Brand X and show that it is ph balanced bac water with no junk, just like gray market peptides, nobody has any assurances the next batch will also be clean, because you don’t know where it is coming from.
Certainty, transparency, and confidence has value. You can’t simply generate that overnight.
I appreciate that everyone is cheap and can compartmentalize, but running whatever cheap crap you can find on Amazon for $8 when you’re spending thousands of dollars a year (or maybe a month) on peptides is like putting K-Mart motor oil in your Ferrari to save money.
People are free to do what they want. I want less to worry about.
@ResearchCat this argument misses the point. People order from the grey market from some person on telegram and use crypto to pay for it. Then maybe test a vial and assume the rest of the vials are just fine and dandy. They could easily order from a trusted vendor who has been doing it for years does internal testing and third party testing but they want to save money. Same for bac water we shouldn’t be held hostage by one company. People just want to know there are other options. What if Hospira decides to charge $50 for a bottle of water? If we don’t find options they just might. There is absolutely nothing wrong with testing the market for alternatives. For some ungodly reason people think this is some magic potion that no one else can recreate and are 100pct against anyone trying because Hospira is the golden child that can’t be touched. For the Ferrari it’s like buying gas from shell or racetrack they both sell gas. You may love shell but that doesn’t mean that racetrack doesn’t sell the same thing.
You also have those trying to defend ordering years worth of it saying the expiration date is something created out of thin air. Please don’t do that use it within a reasonable time after it expires.
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@ResearchCat
You are so right.
Also if BAC is so easy to make, why are people saying they had problems mixing certain peptides with these other BAC water and not Hospira. If I buy back water I should not have any problems mixing anything I can mix with Hospira. It can’t be as good, if I can’t use it for the same things.
I am very curious what the hospitals in other countries use for BAC if they don’t have Hospira. Those would be worth looking into…@Commander You think people have never had a gelling issue with a peptide using Hospira? It happens all the time. Look at the forums. I have had a bad reaction to fake Hospira, so I get the concerns with some other vendors, but let's at least be open to alternatives instead of this suck it up and pay whatever mentality. Market alternatives are great for us; they keep the retailers in line. No reason not to be open to this and browbeat everyone to just use Hospira, or you're dumb. By the way, I didn't appreciate your curse-filled PM. I will leave it at that.
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