Parrox Bacteriostatic Water
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@cracycarrie I see Parrox popping up in several forums, it's quite popular and is working. Don't feel sheepish
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Just keep in mind that the marketing and cool packaging costs more than the stuff in the bottle, and that is what you’re paying for. As with many vendors, it’s the seeming of legitimacy.
That being said, if you’re happy with it, carry on.
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No need to do this but as a public service I ordered Parrox, Lambda and have hospira, I am going to have my guys test them against each other for ph. TDS, Brix and put them all under a high powered microscope to see if there is any particulate matter or micro organisms. We have lab grade equipment in a sanitary environment. I will constitute the lambda in GHK-CU and see what happens. Since someone said it turned it to sludge. Give me about a week. I will take lots of photos so there are receipts. So sick of the Hospira is some miracle solution so let’s see what happens.
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I don’t think people think Hospira is a miracle solution; I think people just know that when you buy Hospira bac water, they’re actually getting bac water. Even if you test Brand X and show that it is ph balanced bac water with no junk, just like gray market peptides, nobody has any assurances the next batch will also be clean, because you don’t know where it is coming from.
Certainty, transparency, and confidence has value. You can’t simply generate that overnight.
I appreciate that everyone is cheap and can compartmentalize, but running whatever cheap crap you can find on Amazon for $8 when you’re spending thousands of dollars a year (or maybe a month) on peptides is like putting K-Mart motor oil in your Ferrari to save money.
People are free to do what they want. I want less to worry about.
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I don’t think people think Hospira is a miracle solution; I think people just know that when you buy Hospira bac water, they’re actually getting bac water. Even if you test Brand X and show that it is ph balanced bac water with no junk, just like gray market peptides, nobody has any assurances the next batch will also be clean, because you don’t know where it is coming from.
Certainty, transparency, and confidence has value. You can’t simply generate that overnight.
I appreciate that everyone is cheap and can compartmentalize, but running whatever cheap crap you can find on Amazon for $8 when you’re spending thousands of dollars a year (or maybe a month) on peptides is like putting K-Mart motor oil in your Ferrari to save money.
People are free to do what they want. I want less to worry about.
@ResearchCat
You are so right.
Also if BAC is so easy to make, why are people saying they had problems mixing certain peptides with these other BAC water and not Hospira. If I buy back water I should not have any problems mixing anything I can mix with Hospira. It can’t be as good, if I can’t use it for the same things.
I am very curious what the hospitals in other countries use for BAC if they don’t have Hospira. Those would be worth looking into… -
I don’t think people think Hospira is a miracle solution; I think people just know that when you buy Hospira bac water, they’re actually getting bac water. Even if you test Brand X and show that it is ph balanced bac water with no junk, just like gray market peptides, nobody has any assurances the next batch will also be clean, because you don’t know where it is coming from.
Certainty, transparency, and confidence has value. You can’t simply generate that overnight.
I appreciate that everyone is cheap and can compartmentalize, but running whatever cheap crap you can find on Amazon for $8 when you’re spending thousands of dollars a year (or maybe a month) on peptides is like putting K-Mart motor oil in your Ferrari to save money.
People are free to do what they want. I want less to worry about.
@ResearchCat this argument misses the point. People order from the grey market from some person on telegram and use crypto to pay for it. Then maybe test a vial and assume the rest of the vials are just fine and dandy. They could easily order from a trusted vendor who has been doing it for years does internal testing and third party testing but they want to save money. Same for bac water we shouldn’t be held hostage by one company. People just want to know there are other options. What if Hospira decides to charge $50 for a bottle of water? If we don’t find options they just might. There is absolutely nothing wrong with testing the market for alternatives. For some ungodly reason people think this is some magic potion that no one else can recreate and are 100pct against anyone trying because Hospira is the golden child that can’t be touched. For the Ferrari it’s like buying gas from shell or racetrack they both sell gas. You may love shell but that doesn’t mean that racetrack doesn’t sell the same thing.
You also have those trying to defend ordering years worth of it saying the expiration date is something created out of thin air. Please don’t do that use it within a reasonable time after it expires.
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@ResearchCat
You are so right.
Also if BAC is so easy to make, why are people saying they had problems mixing certain peptides with these other BAC water and not Hospira. If I buy back water I should not have any problems mixing anything I can mix with Hospira. It can’t be as good, if I can’t use it for the same things.
I am very curious what the hospitals in other countries use for BAC if they don’t have Hospira. Those would be worth looking into…@Commander You think people have never had a gelling issue with a peptide using Hospira? It happens all the time. Look at the forums. I have had a bad reaction to fake Hospira, so I get the concerns with some other vendors, but let's at least be open to alternatives instead of this suck it up and pay whatever mentality. Market alternatives are great for us; they keep the retailers in line. No reason not to be open to this and browbeat everyone to just use Hospira, or you're dumb. By the way, I didn't appreciate your curse-filled PM. I will leave it at that.
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@Commander You think people have never had a gelling issue with a peptide using Hospira? It happens all the time. Look at the forums. I have had a bad reaction to fake Hospira, so I get the concerns with some other vendors, but let's at least be open to alternatives instead of this suck it up and pay whatever mentality. Market alternatives are great for us; they keep the retailers in line. No reason not to be open to this and browbeat everyone to just use Hospira, or you're dumb. By the way, I didn't appreciate your curse-filled PM. I will leave it at that.
@Stevepep
Alternatives yes… Probably best to look for them in the form of what other countries do. Why reinvent the wheel. If other countries don’t have Hospira and they have stuff that works, that is where we should be looking, because it will still be medical grade. Random companies only selling “Research Grade” for the same price as Hospira or more, probably not. And it must work with everything Hospira works with.
Yes people have had problems reconing with Hospira, it always ended up being the peptide. There is a grey supplier, mostly on the AAS forums, “Direct”, his MOTS-C and a few other things say, you cannot use BAC you have to use XYZ… But every other company's MOTS-C is fine with BAC - Assuming it is a decent suppler, like your beloved Nexaph, or my singles favorite Puratek, etc... -
@Stevepep
Alternatives yes… Probably best to look for them in the form of what other countries do. Why reinvent the wheel. If other countries don’t have Hospira and they have stuff that works, that is where we should be looking, because it will still be medical grade. Random companies only selling “Research Grade” for the same price as Hospira or more, probably not. And it must work with everything Hospira works with.
Yes people have had problems reconing with Hospira, it always ended up being the peptide. There is a grey supplier, mostly on the AAS forums, “Direct”, his MOTS-C and a few other things say, you cannot use BAC you have to use XYZ… But every other company's MOTS-C is fine with BAC - Assuming it is a decent suppler, like your beloved Nexaph, or my singles favorite Puratek, etc...@Commander It just kills me to support the company that is fighting to make all of this unavailable to us. As a result, I am hoping some trusted private player emerges, not some pharma company that wants to kill peptides unless they sell them. Someone should easily be able to figure this out. Sterile water and benzyl alcohol are readily available. I get it, Hospira is safe, but that doesn't mean others aren't, or someone can't emerge that is just as safe, but not some pharma company trying to destroy what we do. We are supporting them with every purchase that doesn't sit well with me.
I use Hospira but I am going to keep looking. I don't see the harm in that. F these Pharma companies
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Nothing new about Pharma trying to kill our wallets
But just like people that get them from Canada and other countries we can do the same. The hardest part is figuring out what the other countries use. People on here from other countries are best to advise us on this.. I have no idea what the UK, Australia, and other countries use, but they must use something. And I bet we can get it sent here like we do everything else..
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