Nexaph vendor review
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I'm kinda confused, why is Nexpah asking customers to get the third party testing done? Are the tests they post along with the product not from the vendor acquired COA's from the test lab? Are they relying on the customers to get the testing done for them? Please explain it to me if you have the time.
@Sunshine_day said:
I'm kinda confused, why is Nexpah asking customers to get the third party testing done? Are the tests they post along with the product not from the vendor acquired COA's from the test lab? Are they relying on the customers to get the testing done for them? Please explain it to me if you have the time.
There's basically 3 layers of testing. Nexaph does their own. They also pay for up to 3 customer vials to be tested and will give you store credit for the vial and shipping if you're one of the ones chosen. You can choose to join a 3rd party group where you can pay and the results stay within the group. My understanding is that group uses different labs than jano, but I'm not sure. I haven't found any other vendor or community that does this much testing of their batches. Prices aren't as good as gray, but you have better peace of mind.
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Just make sure if you use a credit card, you use a virtual number or privacy card. I have multiple credit cards I use and for some dumb reason (I think because it is so well known and US based), I did not use a virtual card when I ordered from Nexaph and two of the three cards I used had fraudulent charges a couple weeks later. Not saying it was their fault but it was the only common denominator with those two cards. So I guess I am saying it was their fault. Interestingly, their name appears different on credit card charges now from back then as well.
@Shifted Same here my credit card was compromised right after order from Nexaph. I reported it to them - no reply. Going forward two purchases with a virtual Visa/ Master card -No issues. Ive seen other users report same issues with other vendors too. Most credit cards allow you to setup a virtual card. I generate a new virtual card for each purchase and set a spening limit just over the purchase. Pretty easy once you figure it out....
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@Shifted Same here my credit card was compromised right after order from Nexaph. I reported it to them - no reply. Going forward two purchases with a virtual Visa/ Master card -No issues. Ive seen other users report same issues with other vendors too. Most credit cards allow you to setup a virtual card. I generate a new virtual card for each purchase and set a spening limit just over the purchase. Pretty easy once you figure it out....
@Iggypopsicle What do you use for virtual Visa cards? I know Citi allows virtual MasterCards and privacy.com always seemed to give me MasterCards too. But my Visa card issuing banks don't have virtual cards options.
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@Iggypopsicle What do you use for virtual Visa cards? I know Citi allows virtual MasterCards and privacy.com always seemed to give me MasterCards too. But my Visa card issuing banks don't have virtual cards options.
@Iggypopsicle What do you use for virtual Visa cards? I know Citi allows virtual MasterCards and privacy.com always seemed to give me MasterCards too. But my Visa card issuing banks don't have virtual cards options.
I am not sure. The two I have (Citi and Capital One) are both Master Card. The Visa I have (Amazon/Chase) does not have the option.
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@Iggypopsicle What do you use for virtual Visa cards? I know Citi allows virtual MasterCards and privacy.com always seemed to give me MasterCards too. But my Visa card issuing banks don't have virtual cards options.
@pep_researcher
I have both VISA and Mastercard virtual cards from Privacy.com, but when I create a new card, I am unable to choose which one to make. Their CS takes too long s I just used a real card. 🤪You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.
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@pep_researcher
I have both VISA and Mastercard virtual cards from Privacy.com, but when I create a new card, I am unable to choose which one to make. Their CS takes too long s I just used a real card. 🤪@SpaceGhost Oh okay. I have tried creating one time use cards and last three cards that Privacy generated were all MasterCards.
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So in consideration of the high praises expressed by certain members or this community for Nexaph, I bit the bullet and pre ordered the nxp 2 60mg kit. The test results just came back and the endotoxin level reads as 6.543 EU/Vial. I have researched with Gemini and ChatGpt and while both generally agree I not get a fever, one of them expressly stated "It indicates a contaminated batch, which carries an unnecessary risk of local inflammatory side effects and reflects substandard manufacturing controls." I know somebody said don't preorder if you can't afford to lose that money, but I am totally bummed after all the high praises for this vendor. Comments? Do you agree that the endotoxin level for this batch is high? I did join the 3rd party testing group, which is currently underway
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Update: Perhaps this is false alarm? Google is saying Ai suffered from a common hallucination. But enough with AI, I would love human opinions on this matter. Thanks in advance!
Update: Perhaps this is false alarm? Google is saying Ai suffered from a common hallucination. But enough with AI, I would love human opinions on this matter. Thanks in advance!
Someone made this endotoxin calculator I found somewhere (either reddit or glp1forum) based on levels the FDA deems "safe" or allowable. Not sure where I found it but I always plug the numbers in here to make sure. Hopefully the obvious AI developed calculator is accurate, lol, but it seems to be. 6.5 EU per vial (the COA shows that batch's fill being about 66mg average per vial) is pretty low as far as what is considered safe even if taking a 15mg dose.
https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/e062d2e4-ea48-40b8-b34b-a435055c90d8
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While to be dangerous is it generally considered to have to be more than 5 EU/kg of body weight per hour, to evaluate the levels in a vial, people come up with values like: it's good to be less than 0.5 EU/mL of reconstituted liquid, or, if considering the amount of the active ingredient, less than 0.5 EU/mg.
There is no one standard as far as I know, and different labs use different cut-off values. -
@shifted, thanks the calculator is cool. I questioned AI on the 60mg vial, but i think the difference in level between 60 and 66 is nominal. I did state earlier that AI commented that that level of endotoxins won't give me a systemic fever, however it reflects, in part, poor factory quality control. I believe I know the drill by now..... in accordance with my risk tolerance, a decision needs to be made about what to do with those 10 vials. I guess I will wait to see what endotoxin levels come out of the third party testing group's review.
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I don't believe endotoxins ever come out at 0. There are always some to my knowledge and that number seems very low. Especially for something you are only injecting once per week. If this information is wrong, I'd love for someone to correct me. All tests I have seen come back with some level of endotoxins.
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No, I defintely was not expecting zero. I guess my initial alarm was twofold: 1) The conflicting answers from AI and 2) I am used to seeing endotoxin test results expressed as EU/ML vs EU/VIAL. In the light of a new day and after doing some more digging, I believe the 6.543 endotoxin level is safe and does NOT reflect poor manufacturing standards. I spent some time arguing with AI last night and it concluded that the output that suggested that the 6.543 level was high was based on a "water measurement" and not dry powder. AI sees anything over a certain number and flags it as high and toxic. I'm good now. Thanks for everyone's help. I'm still learning.
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@Iggypopsicle What do you use for virtual Visa cards? I know Citi allows virtual MasterCards and privacy.com always seemed to give me MasterCards too. But my Visa card issuing banks don't have virtual cards options.
@pep_researcher I used a Citi Visa card and it worked with no issues. I think I tried a Mastercard back a few months ago and had a problem so just moved on to Citi Visa.
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