@beachfun There are so many variables. I am currently on 2.5mg tirz, while my bride is at 12.5mg. She is plateaued and has some food and booze noise, where i have a little, but am flat - trying to build muscle.
Different nutrition and exercise regimens will have a big impact on results, but a lot of doctors are starting to agree that the process of titrating patients to max dose and staying there is more the marketing model(think: OxyContin) than it is good treatment prudence. Most patients should be on the lowest dose possible to get results and minimize side effect while also maintaining good nutrition and an active lifestyle.
Not trying to preach or criticize anyone, but I live with this every day.