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@Snake-Pepskin thanks, couldn't figure out how to do rhat

I can't see why you couldn't either, I have thought of mixing them before as well. One less pin always makes me happy.

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So I wasn't sure if I should ever discuss the researching that I have been doing to anyone but I have found this site to be so helpful that I'm going to. Just didn't want to come off as some kind of donkey with what I'm doing. Anyway... MOTS C 2.5mg twice a week a.m. CJC-1295 no dac + Ipamorelin 2x a day M-F 200mcg KLOW M-F 4mg I also added Reta five weeks ago. Wanted to see if I could lean out a little. 2mg for four weeks and 3mg this past week. I know starting that high might not be considered the right thing to do but I might stop after this week. Or should I just scale back again? I ask that based on the results that I have gotten at this point. Results are based off the Hume Body Pod. I know that's not the all to be all but I like using it as a refence. Dropped 13lbs. Body fat 1% Body fat mass down 3.5lb Lean mass down 3lb. Subcutaneous fat mass down 3lb. Visceral fat mass from 6 to 5. Just want to also add that I'm 62. 5'8" 164lb. Work out five days a week for at least an hour. I am close to hitting personal max on back squat, deadlifts and bench press. Just shy of the 700lb club. I feel great and have also had great results on my bloodwork. Any suggestions as to what I am doing right/wrong or anything else would be greatly appreciated. Just don't want to be wasting time or research. Thanks for your time.

@beachfun There are so many variables. I am currently on 2.5mg tirz, while my bride is at 12.5mg. She is plateaued and has some food and booze noise, where i have a little, but am flat - trying to build muscle. Different nutrition and exercise regimens will have a big impact on results, but a lot of doctors are starting to agree that the process of titrating patients to max dose and staying there is more the marketing model(think: OxyContin) than it is good treatment prudence. Most patients should be on the lowest dose possible to get results and minimize side effect while also maintaining good nutrition and an active lifestyle. Not trying to preach or criticize anyone, but I live with this every day.

I know who AlphaBiomed is….T clinics are making him very, very rich.

I know sermorelin is FDA approved and very safe. I researched it for a few months when I started this adventure. I have to say results are subtle at best. As compared with CJC/Ipamorelin, which is more like a shotgun. FWIW, my sermorelin research was in line with the prescriber’s recommendation, while CJC/Ipamorelin was inline with common protocols(200-300mcg/day). I don’t completely dismiss it the way a lot of YouTubers do, but for researchers who can tolerate it and are less patient, it seems most of the other GHRH peptides give more noticeable results faster.

@Randy I'm about 2 months into my cycle CJC [no dac] +P. The dosage I picked up goes .3MG x3 per day on workout days, once on non-workout days. Seeing good results out of it.

@Randy It’s funny; a friend of mine is on reta and like it a lot but is increasing his dose because of food noise/hunger. I use tirz and he keeps trying to get me to move to reta but I am not having trouble with food noise on a very low dose. Hence why I always say to take it slow and see what works best for you. Maybe I will try reta at some point, but right now I see no reason to mess with variables that aren’t causing problems.