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    Also, there are studies of using rapamycin for gum disease. I don't know exactly why it works, rapamycin inhibits MTORC1, thus activating AMPK as a result. Peptides, activating AMPK, would be MOTS-C and Humanin.

    attentiion is all you need

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      I have recession and need to get a gum graft for it. I am not aware of anything that will heal or restore recession. I have researched Glow/Klow for several months, along with many other peptides, and there has been no improvement to my gums with respect to the recession.

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      • vpepsV vpeps

        Also, there are studies of using rapamycin for gum disease. I don't know exactly why it works, rapamycin inhibits MTORC1, thus activating AMPK as a result. Peptides, activating AMPK, would be MOTS-C and Humanin.

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        @vpeptides Thank you, I'll look into these.

        Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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          I have recession and need to get a gum graft for it. I am not aware of anything that will heal or restore recession. I have researched Glow/Klow for several months, along with many other peptides, and there has been no improvement to my gums with respect to the recession.

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          @ResearchCat yeah, I was told I need a graft too and I would like to avoid that at all costs.

          Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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            I use a water pick a few times a week, it has made a huge difference in my gum health.

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              I use a water pick a few times a week, it has made a huge difference in my gum health.

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              @brandenscheidecker I've been using one a couple times a week for a year now, and it's not making any improvements for me. I'm not great at flossing regularly maybe twice a week if I remember. I know a lot of this could have been prevented if I was taught proper dental hygiene at a young age. I also had a calcium issue that caused the plaque to build up faster than most, causing me to need "deep" cleanings twice a year, now I'm on perio maintenance visits 4 times a year. I had a parathyroid removed and that fixed my calcium issue but not the plaque.

              Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                @brandenscheidecker I've been using one a couple times a week for a year now, and it's not making any improvements for me. I'm not great at flossing regularly maybe twice a week if I remember. I know a lot of this could have been prevented if I was taught proper dental hygiene at a young age. I also had a calcium issue that caused the plaque to build up faster than most, causing me to need "deep" cleanings twice a year, now I'm on perio maintenance visits 4 times a year. I had a parathyroid removed and that fixed my calcium issue but not the plaque.

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                @BeeKind said:

                @brandenscheidecker I've been using one a couple times a week for a year now, and it's not making any improvements for me. I'm not great at flossing regularly maybe twice a week if I remember. I know a lot of this could have been prevented if I was taught proper dental hygiene at a young age. I also had a calcium issue that caused the plaque to build up faster than most, causing me to need "deep" cleanings twice a year, now I'm on perio maintenance visits 4 times a year. I had a parathyroid removed and that fixed my calcium issue but not the plaque.

                Me as well until a couple of years ago when I started working so much. Here's something else though. Finally, a couple of different dentists have told me that because I'm of Irish and Scot ancestry, keeping teeth in good shape is extra, EXTRA difficult. If this matches with your situation, know that it is genetics, it cannot be overcome, but it can be resisted and improved somewhat. I have one friend who wants to have all her teeth pulled and all implants installed. I'm beginning to understand why.

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                  Well that's about 20% of my DNA. I've considered implants as well but I don't have that kind of money.

                  Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                    @eleanor a full set of implants would be terribly expensive and extremely disruptive for a long time. Just a gum graft is 6+ weeks recovery and costs a couple grand. Implants start around $4k per tooth.

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                      @eleanor a full set of implants would be terribly expensive and extremely disruptive for a long time. Just a gum graft is 6+ weeks recovery and costs a couple grand. Implants start around $4k per tooth.

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                      @ResearchCat My friend just returned from Turkey where he had around 20 teeth implanted in a clinic in Istanbul. It was less than 10K. It looks good. The service he said was top notch. He had to travel 2 times there though.

                      attentiion is all you need

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                        I understand the expense and hassle but sometimes it gets so bad, it's a serious thought.

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                          doing implants to take care of gum recession is ridiculous. you do not remove a tooth because of recession unless it is severe like 9+mm of gum recession.
                          You are actually talking about periodontal disease not gum recession? I've been in dentistry since 1986. I've worked for some great dentists and some real shady ones.
                          the problem with getting dental work done out of country is most dentists dont want to touch that work (like adjustments or even answer questions about the out of country work)

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                            I had grafts years ago and maybe it's improved in the last couple of decades but found it temporary. I'm almost right back where I started.

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                              I had grafts years ago and maybe it's improved in the last couple of decades but found it temporary. I'm almost right back where I started.

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                              @Eleanor agreed. I have rarely seen prolonged success with grafting. Looking at the root cause is really ignored.

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                                @valgal any advice for reversing periodontal disease?

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                                  @valgal any advice for reversing periodontal disease?

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                                  @PeptideEd once the bone is gone, its pretty much gone. getting your teeth cleaned every 3 months is great even for a healthy mouth. there are a few newer modalities that can help quite a bit. Perio Protect Trays use a low percent hydrogen peroxide gel. Ive seen some good results with that. water pick adding mouth wash to the water. I really like Xylitol based mouth washes. consistency is the key with everything (home care and professional care) All that being said, I am a normal human that flosses irregularly and I sometimes scrub too hard with my toothbrush.

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                                    @valgal Any opinions on LANAP (Laser-Assisted New Attachment Procedure) for bone restoration?

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                                      @valgal Any opinions on LANAP (Laser-Assisted New Attachment Procedure) for bone restoration?

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                                      @PeptideEd If my memory serves correctly, that help remove any necrotic tissue and sterilize the pocket. following upwith ozone will also help heal the pocket. But i dont believe it will grow bone. I've seen okay results with LANAP with without it cause more recession. When I was training with LANAP I thought well this is gonna cause the gums to recede. But the few causes I saw, no additional recession.

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                                        I really do need a water pic but water spray hurts my teeth. Any suggestions? Currently use electric toothbrush.

                                        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                          I really do need a water pic but water spray hurts my teeth. Any suggestions? Currently use electric toothbrush.

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                                          @Eleanor if its sensitivity issues I found warm water makes a huge difference for me. Cold water hurts.

                                          Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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