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  • RandyR Randy

    @Newenough ILS has been having issues and made some mistakes very recently. Probably due to their fast turnarounds.

    We just had freedom measure a batch of 20mg reta (tested elsewhere at 20) show 11mg on their coa.

    Right now Trustpointe, AFI and Vangaurd are my preferred labs.

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    @Randy, is AFI still shut down for new testing? I tried last week, and they weren't accepting new testing. It's been going on for at least two months now. Great source, but if they won't test, then it really not an option. Also, it has me questioning their capabilities since it's been going on for so long now.

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      Awesome, and who does Crush use? Yup ILS. Nexaph again for the win. They suck me back in every time

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        @Randy, is AFI still shut down for new testing? I tried last week, and they weren't accepting new testing. It's been going on for at least two months now. Great source, but if they won't test, then it really not an option. Also, it has me questioning their capabilities since it's been going on for so long now.

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        @Stevepep if you email him he will. Annoying but its how its going to be until they get their heads above water.

        Vanguard and trustpointe are solid

        "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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          @Stevepep if you email him he will. Annoying but its how its going to be until they get their heads above water.

          Vanguard and trustpointe are solid

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          @Randy Great, thanks for doing what you do.

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            Newenough
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            What about peptide test, I haven't used them myself, but also just don't hear much about them.

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              Peptide test uses/partners with trust pointe

              β€œNot a guru, not a chemist-just here trying to keep my receptors AND my sanity responsive.”

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                Unfortunately lab testing is a bit of a pain in the ass to get someone good and consistent. If they are good, then they get too busy and you have to wait weeks for the results. All of them are hard to get in touch with, because they are busy. AFi has been pretty good with getting back to me. But they are busy. Jano is WAY too expensive. I think Mass and Purity (plus shipping) is lime $410…
                But it is important to test. Not sure who to trust, but I am hoping for a little more clarity in the next couple of weeks.

                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                  Who is this? Anyone? LOOKS LIKE full testing.
                  https://s1research.net/product/ipa/

                  Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                    Who is this? Anyone? LOOKS LIKE full testing.
                    https://s1research.net/product/ipa/

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                    @Eleanor said:

                    Who is this? Anyone? LOOKS LIKE full testing.
                    https://s1research.net/product/ipa/

                    That looks like a vendor selling peptides. This post is about lab testing, not vendor ls that post COAs on their website

                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                      @Eleanor said:

                      Who is this? Anyone? LOOKS LIKE full testing.
                      https://s1research.net/product/ipa/

                      That looks like a vendor selling peptides. This post is about lab testing, not vendor ls that post COAs on their website

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                      @Commander said:

                      @Eleanor said:

                      Who is this? Anyone? LOOKS LIKE full testing.
                      https://s1research.net/product/ipa/

                      That looks like a vendor selling peptides. This post is about lab testing, not vendor ls that post COAs on their website

                      Look at the COA for Ipamorelin. I thought I attached it correctly.

                      Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                        Awesome, and who does Crush use? Yup ILS. Nexaph again for the win. They suck me back in every time

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                        @Stevepep πŸ˜‚

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                          @Commander said:

                          @Eleanor said:

                          Who is this? Anyone? LOOKS LIKE full testing.
                          https://s1research.net/product/ipa/

                          That looks like a vendor selling peptides. This post is about lab testing, not vendor ls that post COAs on their website

                          Look at the COA for Ipamorelin. I thought I attached it correctly.

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                          JtCjEfF
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                          @Eleanor I dont recall seeing "Aminos Analytics" before, but Im new to this. I will say that after Commander was an asshat the other day (hugs and kisses big guy) Ive been searching around at labs, and see some disturbing info. There are some indications that the peptide sellers and manufacturers are not the only thing we should be worried about. One other testing lab has been called out for not being who they say they are, and not even having Mass Spectra equipment to do the testing they claim to do. True? Who knows... but the whole damned industry seems filled with shitheads willing to scam you.

                          So now, are we going to test the labs that do the tests, from the tests that were apparently done during manufacture? How many times do we have to test, retest, re-retest...

                          Trusting a "lab" that you haven't personally done an inspection on, validated their equipment, confirmed their calibrations and standards etc... Well, I think we can all agree, thats just "idiotic". 😁

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                            Haven't heard of Aminos Analytics either. Just putting it out here.
                            I ask also how much testing are people going to do? Not that I blame them but have to wonder at this rate, is there any testing company to be trusted? Nobody has readily defined such a company, or, everyone has different ideas of what they should do. IDK.

                            Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                              @Eleanor I dont recall seeing "Aminos Analytics" before, but Im new to this. I will say that after Commander was an asshat the other day (hugs and kisses big guy) Ive been searching around at labs, and see some disturbing info. There are some indications that the peptide sellers and manufacturers are not the only thing we should be worried about. One other testing lab has been called out for not being who they say they are, and not even having Mass Spectra equipment to do the testing they claim to do. True? Who knows... but the whole damned industry seems filled with shitheads willing to scam you.

                              So now, are we going to test the labs that do the tests, from the tests that were apparently done during manufacture? How many times do we have to test, retest, re-retest...

                              Trusting a "lab" that you haven't personally done an inspection on, validated their equipment, confirmed their calibrations and standards etc... Well, I think we can all agree, thats just "idiotic". 😁

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                              @JtCjEfF this is why people swear by Jano who hasn’t been perfect either but they are now the standard. Nexaph again F me

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                                Peptide test uses/partners with trust pointe

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                                @WisGal64 said:

                                Peptide test uses/partners with trust pointe

                                Thanks for that. Totally forgot. I also recall the agreement being up sometime soon, so I looked for an update and saw they're going to open their own lab right here in my back yard of Chattanooga Tn! Just hpe it doesn't become Finnrick 2.0 or some shit. Also hope they have a drop box to take in samples! πŸ˜†

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                                  Mass+Purity from Trustpointe seems to be $400 with $100 an additional vial from the batch. That seems steep compared to $250 from Vanguard? I can't tell if additional vials from Vanguard are still $250 or not...

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                                  • hunt_akH hunt_ak

                                    Mass+Purity from Trustpointe seems to be $400 with $100 an additional vial from the batch. That seems steep compared to $250 from Vanguard? I can't tell if additional vials from Vanguard are still $250 or not...

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                                    @hunt_ak
                                    Not sure on Vanguard. I can’t remember if they charge the same for the additional vial. I have emailed so many labs lately, I can’t remember. But a few did charge a lot for a second vial.
                                    I am starting to lean towards just using AFi all the time. But my mind is not made up yet.

                                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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