NAD+ Dosing Help
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My cat/rat is struggling with energy and I'm interested in NAD+ but I'm finding dosing protocols all over the place. Can someone point me in the direction to help my research?
Is Mots-c or something else better?Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.
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I've titrated up to 250mgx3 a week - felt nothing
I've tried 100mgx7 a week - nada
Back to 250m... still nothing!
At this point I'm just doing 100x3 a week because it's SUPPOSED to have other effects than energy.Done the Mots, no energy spikes there either, I dunno, the sleep peps don't work on me either. It's my super power... I just need to figure out a way to fight crime with it then I can wear a cape and underwear on the outside without people thinking I'm strange.
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I've titrated up to 250mgx3 a week - felt nothing
I've tried 100mgx7 a week - nada
Back to 250m... still nothing!
At this point I'm just doing 100x3 a week because it's SUPPOSED to have other effects than energy.Done the Mots, no energy spikes there either, I dunno, the sleep peps don't work on me either. It's my super power... I just need to figure out a way to fight crime with it then I can wear a cape and underwear on the outside without people thinking I'm strange.
@Stan-Douglas I feel like my body is resistant to some peps too. I don't understand it.
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My cat/rat is struggling with energy and I'm interested in NAD+ but I'm finding dosing protocols all over the place. Can someone point me in the direction to help my research?
Is Mots-c or something else better?My cat/rat is struggling with energy and I'm interested in NAD+ but I'm finding dosing protocols all over the place. Can someone point me in the direction to help my research?
Is Mots-c or something else better?Hello! IF your cats mitos truly need the boost, consider starting with 30mg every other day for the first week, then you can close the gap to every day if you want & slowly raise the dose. This is my kitty's personal experience.
Cat has pretty bad mito damage and reacted very well to it. Others say their cats don't notice a thing. Cat had a slight tightening in the side of my neck the first couple of times she pinned but it went away and an energy surge took place.
I'd definitely work kitty with NAD+ BUFFERED before MOTS-C.
MAKE SURE THAT NAD+ IS BUFFERED! NAD+ is her lifeline. She let me know that if she could only keep one pep the rest of her life, it would be NAD+; but remember, she's got true mito damage from Lyme Disease.
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Yeah, MOTS didn’t do anything for my fox except make the injection site really itchy for 3 days. I tried a few different doses and schedules but nothing changed. So I stopped. Might try NAD+ in the future but the sting everyone talks about makes me hesitate even though he doesn’t feel GHK at ALL. You would think a red haired fox with fair skin would feel it but he doesn’t.
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My cat/rat is struggling with energy and I'm interested in NAD+ but I'm finding dosing protocols all over the place. Can someone point me in the direction to help my research?
Is Mots-c or something else better?Hello! IF your cats mitos truly need the boost, consider starting with 30mg every other day for the first week, then you can close the gap to every day if you want & slowly raise the dose. This is my kitty's personal experience.
Cat has pretty bad mito damage and reacted very well to it. Others say their cats don't notice a thing. Cat had a slight tightening in the side of my neck the first couple of times she pinned but it went away and an energy surge took place.
I'd definitely work kitty with NAD+ BUFFERED before MOTS-C.
MAKE SURE THAT NAD+ IS BUFFERED! NAD+ is her lifeline. She let me know that if she could only keep one pep the rest of her life, it would be NAD+; but remember, she's got true mito damage from Lyme Disease.
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@Eleanor this is a daily injectable for your kitty? It's not something you have to cycle on/off right?
@Eleanor this is a daily injectable for your kitty? It's not something you have to cycle on/off right?
There are some protocols that state to cycle it, but it's a daily for kitty due to her age (70 in cat years) and condition. The dose is pretty low for being on it for 6 months and might vary cycle every other day. She's still researching the cycling part. NAD+ BUFFERED is not a peptide, it is a coenzyme.
Do NOT pin cat late in the day; always early AM upon waking. If after a couple of weeks your kitty does not begin to have more energy, her mitos might not be the problem.
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@Eleanor this is a daily injectable for your kitty? It's not something you have to cycle on/off right?
There are some protocols that state to cycle it, but it's a daily for kitty due to her age (70 in cat years) and condition. The dose is pretty low for being on it for 6 months and might vary cycle every other day. She's still researching the cycling part. NAD+ BUFFERED is not a peptide, it is a coenzyme.
Do NOT pin cat late in the day; always early AM upon waking. If after a couple of weeks your kitty does not begin to have more energy, her mitos might not be the problem.
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My cat/rat is struggling with energy and I'm interested in NAD+ but I'm finding dosing protocols all over the place. Can someone point me in the direction to help my research?
Is Mots-c or something else better?@BeeKind Only one way to find out. Pinch, pin a pray. Start low and titrate up til you feel the sweet spot. Sweet spot is a where it feels right to you without tolerating it. I would start with 10mg and titrate up. If it is from a good source you should feel something energy kick in. My sweet spot is still 10-20mg still. At time I add a little more depending how demanding my day will be. If your source is good and you still dont feel anything. You might have correct your mitochondria. If youre all in MotsC .500mcg, NAD 10mg, SS31 500mg will get them engines running and repair. Just to rule out results and /or any allergic reaction. If youre good then titrate up by 500mcgs or 1mg til it feels right (The sweet spot). Like coffee, sometimes, one cup is enough. Just be patient.
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Not a peptide but the biggest change in my lab rat energy levels was from supplementing CoQ10. I happened across this recently when I was looking into it for one of my subjects circulation issues. I always try to thoroughly educate myself on the mechanisms of any new supplement or peptide so I know how they interact with current regimens. I had no idea how many areas of the body this enzyme affected.
Coenzyme Q10 is a primary antioxidant made by the body naturally but it is common to develop a deficiency. This can be due to inflammatory or autoimmune disorders, certain meds like statins, poor diet and aging. Your cells require coQ10 to make energy. A deficiency disrupts your mitochondria & makes it hard for your body to create adenosine triphosphate ATP, which is the basic fuel for all your cells. I dont want to bore anyone with all the details but if your subjects fatigue is persistent & associated with other symptoms like muscle aches, brain fog & poor stamina or exercise intolerance, you might want to try supplementing CoQ10. You will likely see improvements within a couple weeks.
Keep in mind that most forms of COQ10 arent well absorbed so you need one that is fat & water soluble. There are also 2 forms of COQ10 called ubiquinone and ubiquinol and they are not the same. Ubiquinone is the oxidized form, which requires your body to convert it into a usable form. After doing some comparisons, I decided on liposomal ubiquinol (Qunol brand currently). Dosages for fatigue range usually 100-300mg a day. My research showed improvement on 100mg twice a day.
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Not a peptide but the biggest change in my lab rat energy levels was from supplementing CoQ10. I happened across this recently when I was looking into it for one of my subjects circulation issues. I always try to thoroughly educate myself on the mechanisms of any new supplement or peptide so I know how they interact with current regimens. I had no idea how many areas of the body this enzyme affected.
Coenzyme Q10 is a primary antioxidant made by the body naturally but it is common to develop a deficiency. This can be due to inflammatory or autoimmune disorders, certain meds like statins, poor diet and aging. Your cells require coQ10 to make energy. A deficiency disrupts your mitochondria & makes it hard for your body to create adenosine triphosphate ATP, which is the basic fuel for all your cells. I dont want to bore anyone with all the details but if your subjects fatigue is persistent & associated with other symptoms like muscle aches, brain fog & poor stamina or exercise intolerance, you might want to try supplementing CoQ10. You will likely see improvements within a couple weeks.
Keep in mind that most forms of COQ10 arent well absorbed so you need one that is fat & water soluble. There are also 2 forms of COQ10 called ubiquinone and ubiquinol and they are not the same. Ubiquinone is the oxidized form, which requires your body to convert it into a usable form. After doing some comparisons, I decided on liposomal ubiquinol (Qunol brand currently). Dosages for fatigue range usually 100-300mg a day. My research showed improvement on 100mg twice a day.
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I've titrated up to 250mgx3 a week - felt nothing
I've tried 100mgx7 a week - nada
Back to 250m... still nothing!
At this point I'm just doing 100x3 a week because it's SUPPOSED to have other effects than energy.Done the Mots, no energy spikes there either, I dunno, the sleep peps don't work on me either. It's my super power... I just need to figure out a way to fight crime with it then I can wear a cape and underwear on the outside without people thinking I'm strange.
@Stan-Douglas
Try 100mg NAD+ IM
I get a lot better results with the IM injections. May make you a little queasy or give you a head rush, but you should feel it. -
@BeeKind Only one way to find out. Pinch, pin a pray. Start low and titrate up til you feel the sweet spot. Sweet spot is a where it feels right to you without tolerating it. I would start with 10mg and titrate up. If it is from a good source you should feel something energy kick in. My sweet spot is still 10-20mg still. At time I add a little more depending how demanding my day will be. If your source is good and you still dont feel anything. You might have correct your mitochondria. If youre all in MotsC .500mcg, NAD 10mg, SS31 500mg will get them engines running and repair. Just to rule out results and /or any allergic reaction. If youre good then titrate up by 500mcgs or 1mg til it feels right (The sweet spot). Like coffee, sometimes, one cup is enough. Just be patient.
@EXTROPIAN
500mg of SS-31 a day? I think you made a typo… -
My cat/rat is struggling with energy and I'm interested in NAD+ but I'm finding dosing protocols all over the place. Can someone point me in the direction to help my research?
Is Mots-c or something else better?@BeeKind I started because the day after Reta was brutal with fatigue. I titrated up quickly to 50mg daily - two weeks to sort of flood the zone (as if getting an IV drip). I just backed down to day of and day after reta (which I'm dosing every third day). Totally made me feel normal. But it's not an energy shot for me, just a quiet return to normal if that makes any sense.
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I have used tons of coq10, from qunol brand to bulk supplements. Qunol being bottom of barrel. I use this form and brand as part of my mitochondrial OTC
@thanks_enjoi Eye candy.
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@BeeKind I started because the day after Reta was brutal with fatigue. I titrated up quickly to 50mg daily - two weeks to sort of flood the zone (as if getting an IV drip). I just backed down to day of and day after reta (which I'm dosing every third day). Totally made me feel normal. But it's not an energy shot for me, just a quiet return to normal if that makes any sense.
@SkepticJen 50mg of reta or NAD?
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@SkepticJen 50mg of reta or NAD?
@EXTROPIAN NAD
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