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  • BeeKindB Offline
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    BeeKind
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    Does anyone know where I Can find the information for the breakdown of difference in each of the weight loss targeted peptides?
    I know Sema is GLP agonist and Tirz is GLP & GIP agonist, and Reta is GLP, GIP & Glucagon, but what is survo, maz & cag and at what levels? I know Tirz is higher on one of those vs Reta. I also saw Randy mention on another thread that Maz may be better for those with GI issues from the others and I want to know more about that. Any help or links or anything would be appreciated.

    Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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      Google is your friend. Also search this forum for Randy's posts. Not trying to be rude, but learning how to find information for yourself will help you so much in life. Especially when it comes to injecting research chemicals directly into your body...

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      • atlas01A atlas01

        Google is your friend. Also search this forum for Randy's posts. Not trying to be rude, but learning how to find information for yourself will help you so much in life. Especially when it comes to injecting research chemicals directly into your body...

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        BeeKind
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        #3

        @atlas01 it's actually extremely rude, I tried google and thought man not only do I think I would benefit but I'm sure the community would also benefit from having one thread with all of the information. How HORRIBLE of me to "research" by asking people, you know A FORM OF RESEARCH...

        Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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        • atlas01A atlas01

          Google is your friend. Also search this forum for Randy's posts. Not trying to be rude, but learning how to find information for yourself will help you so much in life. Especially when it comes to injecting research chemicals directly into your body...

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          BeeKind
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @atlas01 and GOOGLE - is mostly sponsored results so no, google is no one's friend.

          Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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          • atlas01A Offline
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            @beekind Here ya go.

            https://community.peptidecritic.com/topic/329/cagrilintide-weekly-research-protocol
            https://community.peptidecritic.com/topic/332/survodutide-weekly-research-dosing-protocol
            https://community.peptidecritic.com/topic/333/mazdutide-weekly-research-dosing-protocol

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            • atlas01A atlas01

              @beekind Here ya go.

              https://community.peptidecritic.com/topic/329/cagrilintide-weekly-research-protocol
              https://community.peptidecritic.com/topic/332/survodutide-weekly-research-dosing-protocol
              https://community.peptidecritic.com/topic/333/mazdutide-weekly-research-dosing-protocol

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              BeeKind
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              @atlas01 you missed the entire point of my question/post. I know how to find Randy's dosing protocols. What I'm asking for is more along the lines of the receptors they target and at what levels.

              Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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              • BeeKindB BeeKind

                @atlas01 you missed the entire point of my question/post. I know how to find Randy's dosing protocols. What I'm asking for is more along the lines of the receptors they target and at what levels.

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                Eleanor
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                @BeeKind
                I can only speak to the Survodutide, which you have the link above. I'm on 5.5 Tirz + 1.0 to 1.2 Survo. Although you will have a bit of nausea at first, do NOT believe what it says about Survo being an appetite suppressor (like Tirz is). When that visceral fat starts to dissolve and your blood glucose level rises, you will be huuuungry! If you have an affinity for sweets, look out! Just expect it.

                Can't speak to Mazdutide.

                Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                  @BeeKind
                  I can only speak to the Survodutide, which you have the link above. I'm on 5.5 Tirz + 1.0 to 1.2 Survo. Although you will have a bit of nausea at first, do NOT believe what it says about Survo being an appetite suppressor (like Tirz is). When that visceral fat starts to dissolve and your blood glucose level rises, you will be huuuungry! If you have an affinity for sweets, look out! Just expect it.

                  Can't speak to Mazdutide.

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                  BeeKind
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                  @Eleanor Thanks - I guess I'm not wording this right. I'm looking for data- maybe chemical markers and levels. I'm trying to figure out in my own research which agonist is causing my GI issues and want to see what levels each of these effects each receptor. I saw a bar graph on here recently showing something similar but I don't believe it included all of them and I don't know if it was accurate for levels.

                  Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                  • BeeKindB BeeKind

                    @Eleanor Thanks - I guess I'm not wording this right. I'm looking for data- maybe chemical markers and levels. I'm trying to figure out in my own research which agonist is causing my GI issues and want to see what levels each of these effects each receptor. I saw a bar graph on here recently showing something similar but I don't believe it included all of them and I don't know if it was accurate for levels.

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                    Eleanor
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                    @BeeKind Sorry Bee, can't help you with that.

                    Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                      Maybe these links will help you:

                      https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/cagrilintide
                      https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/survodutide
                      https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/mazdutide

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                      • judgetooJ judgetoo

                        Maybe these links will help you:

                        https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/cagrilintide
                        https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/survodutide
                        https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/mazdutide

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                        #11

                        @judgetoo
                        These are interesting. It gives the half life for Survo but can't find it for the other 2. With Survo half life of 6 days, it explains a lot. Got the notion to take Survo on Thursday and Tirz on Friday and it helps cover Survo plummet and hunger. What that actually means is I guessed right.

                        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                          Snake Pepskin
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                          @beekind Cag and Eloralintide are in a different class, so I didn’t include them in the graph.
                          But for contrast.

                          Traditional incretins (GLP-1 and GLP-1/GIP/Glucagon agonists like Retatrutide and Survodutide) cause a transient, mild increase in resting heart rate due to autonomic stimulation.
                          In contrast, both Cagrilintide and Eloralintide actually lower resting heart rate. This represents a complete divergence in how they interact with central autonomic nervous system circuits, offering a different cardiovascular footprint.

                          “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                          It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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                            Snake Pepskin
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                            #13

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                            “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                            It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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                              Eleanor
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                              @Snake-Pepskin Half lifes distinctly different that the published papers given in link above. Hmm. Thanks Snake.

                              Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                @beekind Cag and Eloralintide are in a different class, so I didn’t include them in the graph.
                                But for contrast.

                                Traditional incretins (GLP-1 and GLP-1/GIP/Glucagon agonists like Retatrutide and Survodutide) cause a transient, mild increase in resting heart rate due to autonomic stimulation.
                                In contrast, both Cagrilintide and Eloralintide actually lower resting heart rate. This represents a complete divergence in how they interact with central autonomic nervous system circuits, offering a different cardiovascular footprint.

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                                BeeKind
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                                @Snake-Pepskin thank you. This is more along the lines of what I was looking for I knew someone posted a bar graph. I'm going to look more into the others. It seems there's others around the corner too that are being tested, I was reading about a bioglutide, basically reta with IGF-1.

                                Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                                  @Snake-Pepskin Half lifes distinctly different that the published papers given in link above. Hmm. Thanks Snake.

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                                  Snake Pepskin
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                                  @Eleanor

                                  Yeah, some are. My AI must be drawing from a different pond. Survo,seems a bit long, and Eloralintide. I’ll look into it.

                                  “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                                  It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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                                  • Snake PepskinS Snake Pepskin

                                    @Eleanor

                                    Yeah, some are. My AI must be drawing from a different pond. Survo,seems a bit long, and Eloralintide. I’ll look into it.

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                                    @Snake-Pepskin or the Ai is just making things up, AI has read alot of brow science at this point. Sadly crap in crap out with Ai and when it comes to peptides on the interne there is alot of crap for it to ingest.

                                    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                      BeeKind
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                                      @gym.rat possibly, but I'm trying to do some research to figure out if there's a better combo for me since I'm experiencing some GI issues on Reta. Maybe it's analysis paralysis, maybe it's just me doing a different type of research, some people's minds process things differently and it's ok.

                                      Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                                        @gym.rat yes, I'm currently only tolerating 1mg twice a week, anytime I try to do more in one dose I get violently sick. I've been eating better and trying to change my lifestyle while utilizing reta. I prioritize my protein. I will try the enzyme you recommended, thank you!

                                        Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                                          @Snake-Pepskin or the Ai is just making things up, AI has read alot of brow science at this point. Sadly crap in crap out with Ai and when it comes to peptides on the interne there is alot of crap for it to ingest.

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                                          Snake Pepskin
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                                          @Randy @eleanor
                                          I was too tired last night to verify.

                                          After I called it out for the wrong information:

                                          “You are completely right, and I appreciate the direct correction. The previous charts relied on estimated/synthetic pharmacokinetic parameters that did not align with official clinical data.
                                          To correct the record, here are the verified human terminal elimination half-lives and their primary literature sources:”

                                          c1cbcf3e-e5ca-4263-a693-bff0bb996d27-image.jpeg

                                          “Knowledge is the ultimate power.
                                          It’s not what you know that defines you, it’s that which you share, that defines you.”

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