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    DarkN00b
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    Hello, I’m very new to all this research and I’m trying to come up with a game plan.

    One point of confusion for me is when I go to the supplier sites. As a new researcher I’d probably start at 0.5mg. Lowest I’ve seen on the few sites I’ve checked is 6mg.

    Using the calc I see for a .5mg dose, 6mg vial, 1ml BAC, it comes out to 8 units.

    I’m assuming 8 units isn’t the entire vial. So when I draw out 8 units to get a .5mg dose, do I save the rest of the peptide in a fridge for the next dose or is that unsanitary/unsafe and I need to get a whole new vial?

    If you do save it, how long is it good for?

    Thanks

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      Make sure you're using the tested amount from the CoA instead of the labeled amount. For example, if the 6mg vial tested at 7mg, use that for your calculation.

      I like to add enough BAC water so my doses fall on marked units on the syringe. 10, 15, 20, etc. So if your vial tests at 7mg, add 1.4ml of BAC water to get 0.5mg of Reta for every 10 units.

      After taking your dose, put the vial back in your fridge until your next dose. Hydrapeak bottles are great for storage because they will prevent temperature fluctuations from opening the fridge door. I prefer to discard my vials after 28 days just to be safe. Some folks use theirs for longer, but I don't want to risk it.

      Hope that's helpful 🙂

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        Hello, I’m very new to all this research and I’m trying to come up with a game plan.

        One point of confusion for me is when I go to the supplier sites. As a new researcher I’d probably start at 0.5mg. Lowest I’ve seen on the few sites I’ve checked is 6mg.

        Using the calc I see for a .5mg dose, 6mg vial, 1ml BAC, it comes out to 8 units.

        I’m assuming 8 units isn’t the entire vial. So when I draw out 8 units to get a .5mg dose, do I save the rest of the peptide in a fridge for the next dose or is that unsanitary/unsafe and I need to get a whole new vial?

        If you do save it, how long is it good for?

        Thanks

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        @DarkN00b I use a pen (I just CANNOT with syringes). There are videos here of each step. 1 Reconstitute with BAC. 2 Put the reconstituted pep into the pen cartridge (through a filter) 3. Keep your pen in the fridge and put a new pen tip on each time you inject. The cartridge will last as long as how you reconstituted it and how much/ how often you inject.

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          Make sure you're using the tested amount from the CoA instead of the labeled amount. For example, if the 6mg vial tested at 7mg, use that for your calculation.

          I like to add enough BAC water so my doses fall on marked units on the syringe. 10, 15, 20, etc. So if your vial tests at 7mg, add 1.4ml of BAC water to get 0.5mg of Reta for every 10 units.

          After taking your dose, put the vial back in your fridge until your next dose. Hydrapeak bottles are great for storage because they will prevent temperature fluctuations from opening the fridge door. I prefer to discard my vials after 28 days just to be safe. Some folks use theirs for longer, but I don't want to risk it.

          Hope that's helpful 🙂

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          @atlas01 said:

          Make sure you're using the tested amount from the CoA instead of the labeled amount. For example, if the 6mg vial tested at 7mg, use that for your calculation.

          I like to add enough BAC water so my doses fall on marked units on the syringe. 10, 15, 20, etc. So if your vial tests at 7mg, add 1.4ml of BAC water to get 0.5mg of Reta for every 10 units.

          After taking your dose, put the vial back in your fridge until your next dose. Hydrapeak bottles are great for storage because they will prevent temperature fluctuations from opening the fridge door. I prefer to discard my vials after 28 days just to be safe. Some folks use theirs for longer, but I don't want to risk it.

          Hope that's helpful 🙂

          Thank you!

          @SkepticJen said:

          @DarkN00b I use a pen (I just CANNOT with syringes). There are videos here of each step. 1 Reconstitute with BAC. 2 Put the reconstituted pep into the pen cartridge (through a filter) 3. Keep your pen in the fridge and put a new pen tip on each time you inject. The cartridge will last as long as how you reconstituted it and how much/ how often you inject.

          @skepticjen Thanks! Why do some people use pens vs a syringe? I watched a tutorial on how to refill a pen and it seemed way more complex.

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            @darkn00b When you start stacking multiple peptides and need to give more than a couple of injections at a time, pens are much faster. Once they are setup, you just need a wipe, pen needle, and pen. Dial in the pen and punch.

            Also, some people are just "gear heads" and like to play with toys.

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              @nuncles I’m sitting right here!

              Please set a funny and sarcastic signature line. It brings me joy. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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                @researchcat And I'm right there next to you, as proven by my 5 different pen orders to the store here.

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                  I prep peptides for my bride’s rat every night, and I load pens for my cat. I assure you that using pens saves you a ton of time and is less painful than syringes. After the first few times, you can reconstitute and load a pen in about 5 minutes, longer if you are combining several vials into one cartridge. That pen is then good for 1-2 months of use depending on concentration and dosing.

                  Please set a funny and sarcastic signature line. It brings me joy. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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                    @atlas01 said:

                    Make sure you're using the tested amount from the CoA instead of the labeled amount. For example, if the 6mg vial tested at 7mg, use that for your calculation.

                    I like to add enough BAC water so my doses fall on marked units on the syringe. 10, 15, 20, etc. So if your vial tests at 7mg, add 1.4ml of BAC water to get 0.5mg of Reta for every 10 units.

                    After taking your dose, put the vial back in your fridge until your next dose. Hydrapeak bottles are great for storage because they will prevent temperature fluctuations from opening the fridge door. I prefer to discard my vials after 28 days just to be safe. Some folks use theirs for longer, but I don't want to risk it.

                    Hope that's helpful 🙂

                    Thank you!

                    @SkepticJen said:

                    @DarkN00b I use a pen (I just CANNOT with syringes). There are videos here of each step. 1 Reconstitute with BAC. 2 Put the reconstituted pep into the pen cartridge (through a filter) 3. Keep your pen in the fridge and put a new pen tip on each time you inject. The cartridge will last as long as how you reconstituted it and how much/ how often you inject.

                    @skepticjen Thanks! Why do some people use pens vs a syringe? I watched a tutorial on how to refill a pen and it seemed way more complex.

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                    @DarkN00b All the answers everyone just said. But for me, I'm just a big weenie and will pass out if I inject myself with a syringe. So I hide it away and pretend it's not happening with the pen where you can't see the needle. Yes, I DID put the needle on and put the cap back on, but the need to escape reality is strong. 🙂

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                      @gym.rat Hey - speaking of SS-31. What's your protocol and what do you think? Just starting to learn about this one.

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                        @gym.rat NVM - just found your protocol!

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                          Thanks everyone, this was super enlightening

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