SS-31 Virgins. If it's your first time taking SS-31, please post.
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5mg everyday for first week then ramping up to 10mg a day…..pricey, but everything I have studied indicates higher dosing.
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Other peptides to consider. Be patient, these peptides are strong. 1-2mg of SS-31 is enough.
"Peptide therapy for Lyme disease focuses on modulating the immune system and repairing tissue. Common therapeutic peptides include:
Thymosin Alpha-1: Helps upregulate and balance immune cell activity against chronic infections.
LL-37: A naturally occurring antimicrobial peptide that assists the immune system in targeting the bacteria Borrelia burgdorferi.
Thymalin: Supports the production and development of immune cells in the thymus gland.
BPC-157 & Thymosin: Frequently used to promote healing and reduce inflammation in muscles, joints, and connective tissue damaged by Lyme.
KPV: An anti-inflammatory peptide that helps regulate immune responses and supports tissue repair." -
This mornings video from Dr. F.
https://youtu.be/nApJCsjZTkA?si=s6CJycGEa8JBfvQ6 -
This mornings video from Dr. F.
https://youtu.be/nApJCsjZTkA?si=s6CJycGEa8JBfvQ6@Eleanor I'm a fan of Froese. I just finished my first week of SS-31. Titrated up to 2mg daily. Unfortunately since there's no way to test, I'm just going on faith that I need it and that it will work!
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@Eleanor I'm a fan of Froese. I just finished my first week of SS-31. Titrated up to 2mg daily. Unfortunately since there's no way to test, I'm just going on faith that I need it and that it will work!
@SkepticJen
Same here but finished 1st week. Trying to fight off the damage of EBV and other disorders. -
@SkepticJen
Same here but finished 1st week. Trying to fight off the damage of EBV and other disorders.@Eleanor So what was your starting dose, where are you and where are you going?
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@Eleanor So what was your starting dose, where are you and where are you going?
@Eleanor So what was your starting dose, where are you and where are you going?
1mg starting, working up to 2mg. over the next couple of weeks. Finding a protocol for EBV 'leftovers', intracellular from lowered immunity from my 13+ year Lyme Disease tx. After all is said and done and my tests in all other measurements fine, EBV & thyroid stand out. Over 600 reading on what Dr. says is 'dead' EBV, or 'inactive'. I don't think she's correct. EBV and thyroid are the only hardcore hinderances that keep coming up year after year. In this case, I agree with Dr. Ego, but can't take his complete protocol due to MTHFR.
Go to YT Dr. Trevor Bachmeyer and watch is vid on EBV of about 3 months ago. I don't like the guy, but I think he might be onto something.
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After considering the opinions, options and possibilities "out there", I decided the best course of research for me was an 8 week cycle with SS-31 moving up from 2-3mg, and coupled it with MOTS-C moving up from 1.5-3.5mg, and NAD+ at 50mg. As you may notice, I was more inclined to the pair SS-31 & MOTS-C vs stagger. After the cycle, my plan is to get updated blood work and go from there. I'm most like to switch to the CJC/Ipa cycle before going back for another SS-31 cycle later in the year.
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5mg everyday for first week then ramping up to 10mg a day…..pricey, but everything I have studied indicates higher dosing.
@rmchrist - spot on. My SS-31 protocol is:
• Weeks 1–2: SS-31 5 mg daily
• Weeks 3–10: SS-31 10 mg daily
• Weeks 11–12: SS-31 10 mg every other day
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@Eleanor So what was your starting dose, where are you and where are you going?
1mg starting, working up to 2mg. over the next couple of weeks. Finding a protocol for EBV 'leftovers', intracellular from lowered immunity from my 13+ year Lyme Disease tx. After all is said and done and my tests in all other measurements fine, EBV & thyroid stand out. Over 600 reading on what Dr. says is 'dead' EBV, or 'inactive'. I don't think she's correct. EBV and thyroid are the only hardcore hinderances that keep coming up year after year. In this case, I agree with Dr. Ego, but can't take his complete protocol due to MTHFR.
Go to YT Dr. Trevor Bachmeyer and watch is vid on EBV of about 3 months ago. I don't like the guy, but I think he might be onto something.
@Eleanor He used to be a chiropractor but his license was revoked in 2020.
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@Eleanor He used to be a chiropractor but his license was revoked in 2020.
@trumans-mama he also cheated in the CrossFit games.
Be mindful of jumpcuts in people's videos.
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@Eleanor He used to be a chiropractor but his license was revoked in 2020.
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What I'm learning about SS-31:
There are researchers who ask if it's worth the price, or say it's not working, and a myriad of other things. Let me just say that IMO, if you're under 50 yoa and NOT mito compromised with chemotherapy or heavy antibiotic or anti protozoan treatment, etc. it is NOT worth it.
Quite frankly, you just might need some NAD+ (buffered), if your diet is wrong, or, you're stressing yourself in some way. It will take 2 to 4 weeks to really tell if you take it every other day.
SS31 - Most 'community' protocols advocate up to 8 weeks daily, I beg to differ; it's closer to 12 to 16 weeks. I'm on week 9 now and plan to take the 12-16 weeks. The fact is, I might not know how well it's worked, or worked at all until I stop the protocol and just stay with NAD+BUFFERED (can't stress that enough). Time is the factor, as well as a reasonable dose, which does not mean 10+mg or 40mg. TIME is the factor that most people are not giving some of these peps. Depending upon your body weight, I would not go over 4mg daily; you don't need to do that and it's expensive. TIME is the factor with SS31, maybe Cartalax and others; maybe a bit sooner, but not much.
Please do NOT take MOTS-C with SS-31; wait until your done, else you're just muddying the waters and can't be sure if the SS31 worked for you or not. I know that's counter to what's written, but you're just wasting money, time and will eventually claim SS31 doesn't work, which might not be true. I am thoroughly convinced that time is the factor. 12 to 16 weeks. Yes, you can take some 'helper peps'; TA-1 is good, as it's thymus related and might help. NAD+ is good. Again, after you stop at the end of the protocol time is when you'll really find out what's worked.
A few things I'd definitely take along with helper peps (if you so choose) is a complete vit. C and a METHYLATED complete vit. B. Do not take unmethylated B; no 'cyano' anything, no folic acid, it needs to be methylfolate.
I will always take NAD+. I didn't think it would work at first, but after the 2nd week, what a difference it made, but I am (hopefully 'was') pretty mito compromised, so, will see.
12 to 16 weeks, otherwise, it's a waste. I will honestly let you know if I think SS-31 has done anything for me a month or so after stopping, but I'm convinced...It takes a longer duration than the popular protocols state.
Make of this what you will.
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Didn't go over the thread but just wanted to post personal experience — ran 2mg for around 2.5 months. Nothing nada. Money, BAC, noodles down the drain. lol
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Didn't go over the thread but just wanted to post personal experience — ran 2mg for around 2.5 months. Nothing nada. Money, BAC, noodles down the drain. lol
Didn't go over the thread but just wanted to post personal experience — ran 2mg for around 2.5 months. Nothing nada. Money, BAC, noodles down the drain. lol
10 weeks? Okay, you probably didn't need the mito rebuild.
Proud to be on a gubmint watch list
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Didn't go over the thread but just wanted to post personal experience — ran 2mg for around 2.5 months. Nothing nada. Money, BAC, noodles down the drain. lol
10 weeks? Okay, you probably didn't need the mito rebuild.
@Eleanor LOL yeah I figured it after enough money and resources down the drain.
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@Eleanor LOL yeah I figured it after enough money and resources down the drain.
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What I'm learning about SS-31:
There are researchers who ask if it's worth the price, or say it's not working, and a myriad of other things. Let me just say that IMO, if you're under 50 yoa and NOT mito compromised with chemotherapy or heavy antibiotic or anti protozoan treatment, etc. it is NOT worth it.
Quite frankly, you just might need some NAD+ (buffered), if your diet is wrong, or, you're stressing yourself in some way. It will take 2 to 4 weeks to really tell if you take it every other day.
SS31 - Most 'community' protocols advocate up to 8 weeks daily, I beg to differ; it's closer to 12 to 16 weeks. I'm on week 9 now and plan to take the 12-16 weeks. The fact is, I might not know how well it's worked, or worked at all until I stop the protocol and just stay with NAD+BUFFERED (can't stress that enough). Time is the factor, as well as a reasonable dose, which does not mean 10+mg or 40mg. TIME is the factor that most people are not giving some of these peps. Depending upon your body weight, I would not go over 4mg daily; you don't need to do that and it's expensive. TIME is the factor with SS31, maybe Cartalax and others; maybe a bit sooner, but not much.
Please do NOT take MOTS-C with SS-31; wait until your done, else you're just muddying the waters and can't be sure if the SS31 worked for you or not. I know that's counter to what's written, but you're just wasting money, time and will eventually claim SS31 doesn't work, which might not be true. I am thoroughly convinced that time is the factor. 12 to 16 weeks. Yes, you can take some 'helper peps'; TA-1 is good, as it's thymus related and might help. NAD+ is good. Again, after you stop at the end of the protocol time is when you'll really find out what's worked.
A few things I'd definitely take along with helper peps (if you so choose) is a complete vit. C and a METHYLATED complete vit. B. Do not take unmethylated B; no 'cyano' anything, no folic acid, it needs to be methylfolate.
I will always take NAD+. I didn't think it would work at first, but after the 2nd week, what a difference it made, but I am (hopefully 'was') pretty mito compromised, so, will see.
12 to 16 weeks, otherwise, it's a waste. I will honestly let you know if I think SS-31 has done anything for me a month or so after stopping, but I'm convinced...It takes a longer duration than the popular protocols state.
Make of this what you will.
@Eleanor All interesting! I don't understand why you're saying no MOTS at the same time. Of course it muddies the water, but as soon as you stack anything that happens, correct? The same could be said of SS-31 & NAD+ if I'm understanding what you're saying. And there's no test to show that the SS-31 is working anyway - so why wouldn't you use them both?
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@Eleanor All interesting! I don't understand why you're saying no MOTS at the same time. Of course it muddies the water, but as soon as you stack anything that happens, correct? The same could be said of SS-31 & NAD+ if I'm understanding what you're saying. And there's no test to show that the SS-31 is working anyway - so why wouldn't you use them both?
@SkepticJen I started NAD long before SS31, so I know the effects of it; I was giving it as an example. If you've been taking MOTS-C long enough to where you can recognize any changes, then more power to you. I can't function well enough to hold a full time job without NAD+ and cannot say the same about MOTS-C. Do what you think best; I'm just trying to give you a way to honestly assess if SS-31 does a thing for you.
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@SkepticJen I started NAD long before SS31, so I know the effects of it; I was giving it as an example. If you've been taking MOTS-C long enough to where you can recognize any changes, then more power to you. I can't function well enough to hold a full time job without NAD+ and cannot say the same about MOTS-C. Do what you think best; I'm just trying to give you a way to honestly assess if SS-31 does a thing for you.
@Eleanor Oh I'm absolutely not trying to argue! Just want to understand the thinking behind dosing, why some do different protocols, etc. I'm loving all the research but often feel like I'm shooting in the dark. I added NAD to counter Reta fatigue. Then SS-31 when I learned about it (certainly my mitochondria are shot) and then MOTS after. Just been fiddling with dosage and timing based on energy levels. I'm sorry you need NAD just for normal life - I'm sure that's difficult.
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