New to Peptide Critic - Not to Peptides and Bioregulators
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Hello
I’m new to the Peptide Critic Community. I found this through Randy’s YouTube page that got taken down. Hoping to broaden my knowledge and share my experiences with others. I’ve been dabbling in peptides and bioregulators since 2015. I’ve had two of my go to suppliers in Canada shut down and seen sanctions affect availability of the Russian peptides over the years. I though it would be good to broaden my horizons and join a community now that I’m half a century old and I’ve turned up up the focus and included more compounds and protocols to keep my health and fitness dialed in. -
I am really interested in bioregulators. Have you done vesugen? Are you doing the bios in oral form or subq? I'd like to be able to do these but I see most are oral and I just think oral would be a big nothing burger as far as effectiveness. And the costs I've seen have been pretty outrageous.
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I am really interested in bioregulators. Have you done vesugen? Are you doing the bios in oral form or subq? I'd like to be able to do these but I see most are oral and I just think oral would be a big nothing burger as far as effectiveness. And the costs I've seen have been pretty outrageous.
@Shaqdiesel back in the day I was getting the direct from Russia natural preparation in the oral form and the stacks I did always included Ventfort because that was the recommendation to utilize the blood vessel regulator to get better effects. The Libidon/Testoluten /ventfort stack was effective for sure but it’s subtle. I used them to recover from shorter test/anabolic cycles and my test levels did recover to the normal range. But yes the pills are spendy $$$.
But I find I am liking the synthetic injectible versions more like Epithalon & Pinealon for example I find is a great combo
I am going to run a prostomax/testagen/vesugen here really soon so I will be able to give you a better comparison of the same oral natural capsule form vs synthetic injectible formulations a true head to head comparison.
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@Shaqdiesel back in the day I was getting the direct from Russia natural preparation in the oral form and the stacks I did always included Ventfort because that was the recommendation to utilize the blood vessel regulator to get better effects. The Libidon/Testoluten /ventfort stack was effective for sure but it’s subtle. I used them to recover from shorter test/anabolic cycles and my test levels did recover to the normal range. But yes the pills are spendy $$$.
But I find I am liking the synthetic injectible versions more like Epithalon & Pinealon for example I find is a great combo
I am going to run a prostomax/testagen/vesugen here really soon so I will be able to give you a better comparison of the same oral natural capsule form vs synthetic injectible formulations a true head to head comparison.
@bfuller I can't wait to hear back from you. Keep me posted please. And thank you much!
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Vesugen is especially an interesting topic for research, it may be like a "poor man stem cell therapy", even better than the original, especially combined with Pinealon and maybe Chonluten.
@vpeptides I should give chonluten a try, my lungs could use the support. Who is your go to for Bioregulators? I've been listening to a lot of Optimal Nathan these days on YouTube, he seems to be a big fan of BLL for bioregulators.
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@bfuller I can't wait to hear back from you. Keep me posted please. And thank you much!
@Shaqdiesel will do! Stay Tuned.
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@vpeptides I should give chonluten a try, my lungs could use the support. Who is your go to for Bioregulators? I've been listening to a lot of Optimal Nathan these days on YouTube, he seems to be a big fan of BLL for bioregulators.
@bfuller I used BLL, but they only have "expiration date" not a batch, they are supposedly good, but some products are a bit old. Also Canlab International, BioEdge Research Labs and Peptidology. Vita Stream, BLL and Integrative Peptides for orals. Not everybody has everything in stock. BLL has 50% off sale now including orals. Bonomarlot 40mg caps * 60 for $150 is a pretty good price.
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@vpeptides I should give chonluten a try, my lungs could use the support. Who is your go to for Bioregulators? I've been listening to a lot of Optimal Nathan these days on YouTube, he seems to be a big fan of BLL for bioregulators.
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@vpeptides Thanks for the link I'll check it out I like the Kavinson series the PSI team puts out on YouTube, they are very helpful for information!
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@vpeptides Thanks for the link I'll check it out I like the Kavinson series the PSI team puts out on YouTube, they are very helpful for information!
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@bfuller PSI is pretty new to the space I assume. They don't seem to have much of a following yet. I like their stuff.
@Shaqdiesel I like them too because they bring up a lot of random and hard-to-find (but also hard-to-check) information, and also they are amusing. Brenden Henry is some kind of a savant, getting really deep into the subject, but he lacks some, I guess, education, to integrate it, to understand things like the mechanical studies don't always translate to evidence-based effects in humans, or that if a compound affects some complexes and pathways in-vitro, and those pathways are known to promote some kind effect, it doesn't mean those compounds will also necessarily have that effect. Their business looks so messed, their website design is ridiculous, looking like some scammers from 1990s selling magic pills. I got their book, it is printed in a large text and maybe 60% of its text is a copy/paste of the same paragraphs over and over, looking more like somebody's notes piled together without a proper editing. Also, it doesn't have any references, and they offer you to buy the references separately for over $1000
With the book they gave me a bunch of "bonuses" of mostly useless, questionable and even ridiculous information too.
They also have a doctor on the team who studies in Russia and sits somewhere in Republic of Georgia, acting like a kind of House M.D. and looking like he is always under some influence (actually drinking wine and vaping on the videos). It's a nice show and fun to watch, they pull interesting ideas and protocols, but I noticed a lot of mistakes and misleading information, way too much for "The Global Scientific Authority on Peptide Research" and "the world's biggest & most scientifically backed book on peptides ever written"
At the same time they are the best so far on the bioregulators, simply because the rest are even worse. -
@Shaqdiesel I like them too because they bring up a lot of random and hard-to-find (but also hard-to-check) information, and also they are amusing. Brenden Henry is some kind of a savant, getting really deep into the subject, but he lacks some, I guess, education, to integrate it, to understand things like the mechanical studies don't always translate to evidence-based effects in humans, or that if a compound affects some complexes and pathways in-vitro, and those pathways are known to promote some kind effect, it doesn't mean those compounds will also necessarily have that effect. Their business looks so messed, their website design is ridiculous, looking like some scammers from 1990s selling magic pills. I got their book, it is printed in a large text and maybe 60% of its text is a copy/paste of the same paragraphs over and over, looking more like somebody's notes piled together without a proper editing. Also, it doesn't have any references, and they offer you to buy the references separately for over $1000
With the book they gave me a bunch of "bonuses" of mostly useless, questionable and even ridiculous information too.
They also have a doctor on the team who studies in Russia and sits somewhere in Republic of Georgia, acting like a kind of House M.D. and looking like he is always under some influence (actually drinking wine and vaping on the videos). It's a nice show and fun to watch, they pull interesting ideas and protocols, but I noticed a lot of mistakes and misleading information, way too much for "The Global Scientific Authority on Peptide Research" and "the world's biggest & most scientifically backed book on peptides ever written"
At the same time they are the best so far on the bioregulators, simply because the rest are even worse.@vpeptides Great summary.
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@Shaqdiesel I like them too because they bring up a lot of random and hard-to-find (but also hard-to-check) information, and also they are amusing. Brenden Henry is some kind of a savant, getting really deep into the subject, but he lacks some, I guess, education, to integrate it, to understand things like the mechanical studies don't always translate to evidence-based effects in humans, or that if a compound affects some complexes and pathways in-vitro, and those pathways are known to promote some kind effect, it doesn't mean those compounds will also necessarily have that effect. Their business looks so messed, their website design is ridiculous, looking like some scammers from 1990s selling magic pills. I got their book, it is printed in a large text and maybe 60% of its text is a copy/paste of the same paragraphs over and over, looking more like somebody's notes piled together without a proper editing. Also, it doesn't have any references, and they offer you to buy the references separately for over $1000
With the book they gave me a bunch of "bonuses" of mostly useless, questionable and even ridiculous information too.
They also have a doctor on the team who studies in Russia and sits somewhere in Republic of Georgia, acting like a kind of House M.D. and looking like he is always under some influence (actually drinking wine and vaping on the videos). It's a nice show and fun to watch, they pull interesting ideas and protocols, but I noticed a lot of mistakes and misleading information, way too much for "The Global Scientific Authority on Peptide Research" and "the world's biggest & most scientifically backed book on peptides ever written"
At the same time they are the best so far on the bioregulators, simply because the rest are even worse.@vpeptides Hey question for you. I've always done bio regs for 10-20 days for example minus cartalax.
I've heard PSI recomend pinealon subq @ 1 mg for 6 months with a plethora of other things to a lady who was suffereing from fatigue and brain fog in her mid 60's.
Do you know what the dosing protocols looked like for the Athletic studies they reference? Is it in the book? Brendan always says he reads all the comments and responds to everyone, but he hasn't responded to me when I asked what an athletic protocol would look like.
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@vpeptides Hey question for you. I've always done bio regs for 10-20 days for example minus cartalax.
I've heard PSI recomend pinealon subq @ 1 mg for 6 months with a plethora of other things to a lady who was suffereing from fatigue and brain fog in her mid 60's.
Do you know what the dosing protocols looked like for the Athletic studies they reference? Is it in the book? Brendan always says he reads all the comments and responds to everyone, but he hasn't responded to me when I asked what an athletic protocol would look like.
@bfuller I left many comments there I don't recall he ever responded to any. The study referenced in the book was in rats
Increased the maximum treadmill run time in rats by 254% within 10 days. This was at a dosage of 75mcg/kg, which in mice converts to 150mcg/kg and humans. I don't know whether mice and rats to human conversion is the same in this case.It is 12mg then for 80kg person. (see correction below) -
@bfuller I left many comments there I don't recall he ever responded to any. The study referenced in the book was in rats
Increased the maximum treadmill run time in rats by 254% within 10 days. This was at a dosage of 75mcg/kg, which in mice converts to 150mcg/kg and humans. I don't know whether mice and rats to human conversion is the same in this case.It is 12mg then for 80kg person. (see correction below)@vpeptides This is how I know big Tech is spying on us. This video popped up in my feed while I was doing cardio today. Coincedence, maybe but this happens way too often. It was really god though, I had seen the whole interview previously, he actually talks about the human study in athletes and taking it in the AM and pre HIIT workouts etc.
How Pinealon Might Improve Sleep & Cognitive Function | Dr. Abud Bakri & Dr. Andrew Huberman
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