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  • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

    This whole thread was confusing and muddy. A hypothetical scenario was brought up. Which eventually led to calling for a boycott for something that hasn't even taken place. Appreciate the sharing of something found but this train went off the tracks.

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    mandangox28
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    @Mydogdaryl423 couldn't agree more. Ive watched and learned from this site and there's one poster here who seems to have some sort of weird energy towards CRUSH. Over the last year I've order from a few vendors but in the last 6 months its really come down to crush and nexaph depending on the price. Sometimes crush has the better deal and sometimes its nexap but both have been great from pricing, delivery, customer service etc. Theres plenty of vendors that truly suck crush is not even close to that.

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    • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

      This whole thread was confusing and muddy. A hypothetical scenario was brought up. Which eventually led to calling for a boycott for something that hasn't even taken place. Appreciate the sharing of something found but this train went off the tracks.

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      JtCjEfF
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      @Mydogdaryl423 yeah....🫪

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        @Mydogdaryl423 couldn't agree more. Ive watched and learned from this site and there's one poster here who seems to have some sort of weird energy towards CRUSH. Over the last year I've order from a few vendors but in the last 6 months its really come down to crush and nexaph depending on the price. Sometimes crush has the better deal and sometimes its nexap but both have been great from pricing, delivery, customer service etc. Theres plenty of vendors that truly suck crush is not even close to that.

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        @mandangox28 I think you are referring to me, like I said crush is fine I have spent at least $2000 there I just want someone more reliable with inventory and not all the marketing stuff week after week. We make our own decisions. I don’t need to leave let me know when you have it to pay the same or less at a place that actually has it and I get it in 3 days.

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          Crush is owned by Rory who was fairly big on tiktok as Peptok at one point. He killed his account almost a year ago because of the drama.

          Rory is the reason we have vendors doing all this testing. Prior to him making a BIG stink vendors were selling without COA's, assuming a new batch was good because the last one was and almost nobody was testing sterility/endo etc. Now they are and its because he used his platform to push this on the industry.

          He wasn't tactful and he was brash at times but it was necessary to get us where we are. I talk to him regularly and he is one of the few research vendors that actually researches with his supply.

          If I'm being completely honest I wouldn't refund someone for a gelled peptide if they used uncle wang toilet water either. Not all bac water is created equal. How do you verify? You ask.

          Have a problem with his bac markup? Buy it at Medex in bulk like he does. Its a convenience charge.

          At least he is being up front with the policy.

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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          • RandyR Randy

            Crush is owned by Rory who was fairly big on tiktok as Peptok at one point. He killed his account almost a year ago because of the drama.

            Rory is the reason we have vendors doing all this testing. Prior to him making a BIG stink vendors were selling without COA's, assuming a new batch was good because the last one was and almost nobody was testing sterility/endo etc. Now they are and its because he used his platform to push this on the industry.

            He wasn't tactful and he was brash at times but it was necessary to get us where we are. I talk to him regularly and he is one of the few research vendors that actually researches with his supply.

            If I'm being completely honest I wouldn't refund someone for a gelled peptide if they used uncle wang toilet water either. Not all bac water is created equal. How do you verify? You ask.

            Have a problem with his bac markup? Buy it at Medex in bulk like he does. Its a convenience charge.

            At least he is being up front with the policy.

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            @Randy couldn't agree more. It takes people like rory to push industries/spaces forward. All of a sudden everyone is moving to increased testing.

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              @mandangox28 I think you are referring to me, like I said crush is fine I have spent at least $2000 there I just want someone more reliable with inventory and not all the marketing stuff week after week. We make our own decisions. I don’t need to leave let me know when you have it to pay the same or less at a place that actually has it and I get it in 3 days.

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              Stevepep I get it bro. I can definitely understand the frustrations if you need a product and its not not available. Im just not going crush the guy for building up a brand and system that id imagine is printing money. Im sure if his way of pricing, marketing, inventory etc hits a wall he'll adjust but from the looks of it he's killing it. Ask yourself would you change your business if it was doing really well and customers kept coming back in waves?

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                Stevepep I get it bro. I can definitely understand the frustrations if you need a product and its not not available. Im just not going crush the guy for building up a brand and system that id imagine is printing money. Im sure if his way of pricing, marketing, inventory etc hits a wall he'll adjust but from the looks of it he's killing it. Ask yourself would you change your business if it was doing really well and customers kept coming back in waves?

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                @mandangox28 no if you look at my posts on crush I have often posted I am jealous by how well the marketing tactics work. It’s just too much work for me to be honest. I have no issues with what I ordered from crush if I see a deal that makes sense I would feel confident ordering from there. Lately the sales have been a nothing burger I get the feeling it’s run its course.

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                  Well…my recent experience with Crush vs Nexaph.
                  I just reconstituted a 10 mg Crush PT 141 with 2 ml of Hospira and a 10mg Nexaph Semax to make a nasal spray.

                  1. The Nexaph cap removed clean and the Crush ripped off leaving a rip of aluminum.
                  2. The Nexaph dissolved quickly and clear.
                    The Crush after 30 minutes is still showing residue on the sides of the glass vial.
                    I have never had a vial reconstituted not fully dissolved!
                    I am making a nasal spray so I am not going to throw the vial away but definitely would not pin, whatever does not want to dissolve, even though I filter everything.
                    I am just sharing my experience and can see, literally the difference in quality between the 2 vendors.
                    Personally I will not be buying from Crush again.
                    Sorry!!! Check out this picture as I finish writing IMG_4956.jpeg
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                    Well…my recent experience with Crush vs Nexaph.
                    I just reconstituted a 10 mg Crush PT 141 with 2 ml of Hospira and a 10mg Nexaph Semax to make a nasal spray.

                    1. The Nexaph cap removed clean and the Crush ripped off leaving a rip of aluminum.
                    2. The Nexaph dissolved quickly and clear.
                      The Crush after 30 minutes is still showing residue on the sides of the glass vial.
                      I have never had a vial reconstituted not fully dissolved!
                      I am making a nasal spray so I am not going to throw the vial away but definitely would not pin, whatever does not want to dissolve, even though I filter everything.
                      I am just sharing my experience and can see, literally the difference in quality between the 2 vendors.
                      Personally I will not be buying from Crush again.
                      Sorry!!! Check out this picture as I finish writing IMG_4956.jpeg
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                    @beachfun 👍🏽 thats the best thing about being a consumer, you have the option to spend wherever you want. And luckily for us in this space theres 1000s of vendors to choose from and more popping up everyday.

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                      I repeat the question: HOW DOES A RESEARCHER PROVE THEY USED PFIZER?
                      So now, Crush, Flawless & Glow Ams (Lawless sister) is now off my list.

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                      @Eleanor
                      Your list should be a sticky note.
                      Thanks

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                      • Mydogdaryl423M Mydogdaryl423

                        This whole thread was confusing and muddy. A hypothetical scenario was brought up. Which eventually led to calling for a boycott for something that hasn't even taken place. Appreciate the sharing of something found but this train went off the tracks.

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                        @Mydogdaryl423 I can only show what happened with my first reconstitution of Crush peptides. What was left in the vial is gross 🤮 There response was “try to shake it”. Crush I have reconstituted at least 100 vials and never saw anything like this.IMG_4963.jpeg IMG_4962.jpeg IMG_4961.jpeg

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                          @beachfun 👍🏽 thats the best thing about being a consumer, you have the option to spend wherever you want. And luckily for us in this space theres 1000s of vendors to choose from and more popping up everyday.

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                          beachfun
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                          @mandangox28 What about the person who injects this into their body? You don’t seem to get it…also the financial side.

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                            How interesting that The Statement is no longer on Crush homepage.
                            Unfortunately, Flawless charges a $35 'restocking fee' and other goodies. See their Policies, Return and Refunds.
                            Haven't checked the others; they probably charge as well. What a joke.

                            Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                              @Mydogdaryl423 couldn't agree more. Ive watched and learned from this site and there's one poster here who seems to have some sort of weird energy towards CRUSH. Over the last year I've order from a few vendors but in the last 6 months its really come down to crush and nexaph depending on the price. Sometimes crush has the better deal and sometimes its nexap but both have been great from pricing, delivery, customer service etc. Theres plenty of vendors that truly suck crush is not even close to that.

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                              @mandangox28 I have been first told to shake the vial more to get whatever was in the vial to dissolve, which it never did. Duncan responded to me to offer a refund on the 6 vials if I shipped them back so they could research what happened. That is the best I could ask for after receiving a contaminated or whatever you want to call what is left on the sides of the vial. I will update after I get a refund.IMG_4962.jpeg )

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                                @Mydogdaryl423 I can only show what happened with my first reconstitution of Crush peptides. What was left in the vial is gross 🤮 There response was “try to shake it”. Crush I have reconstituted at least 100 vials and never saw anything like this.IMG_4963.jpeg IMG_4962.jpeg IMG_4961.jpeg

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                                @beachfun I'm a bit lost what is stuck exactly? If you mean the droplets then that's water capillary action. It won't move around smoothly like oil. That's happened to my vials too.

                                Don't mean to dismiss your concern and a pic has limitations to convey the problem, but just trying to understand if this is misguided.

                                This was not a Crush vial and was successfully researched.

                                vial1.jpg

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                                  @mandangox28 I have been first told to shake the vial more to get whatever was in the vial to dissolve, which it never did. Duncan responded to me to offer a refund on the 6 vials if I shipped them back so they could research what happened. That is the best I could ask for after receiving a contaminated or whatever you want to call what is left on the sides of the vial. I will update after I get a refund.IMG_4962.jpeg )

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                                  @beachfun how much water did you add?

                                  "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                    @beachfun how much water did you add?

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                                    @Randy looks like 0.001ml

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                                      @Mydogdaryl423 I can only show what happened with my first reconstitution of Crush peptides. What was left in the vial is gross 🤮 There response was “try to shake it”. Crush I have reconstituted at least 100 vials and never saw anything like this.IMG_4963.jpeg IMG_4962.jpeg IMG_4961.jpeg

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                                      @beachfun said:

                                      @Mydogdaryl423 I can only show what happened with my first reconstitution of Crush peptides. What was left in the vial is gross 🤮 There response was “try to shake it”. Crush I have reconstituted at least 100 vials and never saw anything like this.IMG_4963.jpeg IMG_4962.jpeg IMG_4961.jpeg

                                      Im not sure why I am tagged. Your post is about a possible reconstitution issue and by the looks of it you researched it anyway. My post was how a hypothetical situation was being explained as if it had happened and it was misleading.

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                                        I won’t fault Crush for that policy, others are doing the same thing for good reason. I’ve had nothing but a positive experience with Rory, I’m a picky consumer and he’s answered every question I sent his way, I trust him much more than I trust most in this business.
                                        Don’t like his policies, but from someone else, Crush doesn’t deserve to be trashed, this thread took a rather childish turn.

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                                          @beachfun I'm a bit lost what is stuck exactly? If you mean the droplets then that's water capillary action. It won't move around smoothly like oil. That's happened to my vials too.

                                          Don't mean to dismiss your concern and a pic has limitations to convey the problem, but just trying to understand if this is misguided.

                                          This was not a Crush vial and was successfully researched.

                                          vial1.jpg

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                                          @pep_researcher Dude! How can you make that statement without even looking at ALL the photos throughout my posts. I reconstituted 2 ml of Hospira and if you look at the other pictures I provided there is CLEARLY something that will not dissolve on the sides of the vial. Coincidentally, I reconstituted a Semax from Nexaph at the same time. I have contacted Crush and they offered a refund of the 6 vials that I purchased. This one was stored in my refrigerator while the other 5 were in my freezer storage. Crush said they want to research what happened. I removed the reconstituted peptide and added it to the 5 ml of saline as I had already prepared my spray bottle. I am happy Crush wants to research this problem. Jeff says “a vendor is only as good as until they are not”. Those are not water droplets, there is a contaminant present and I am waiting for a shipping label to send back all 6 vials I purchased in June.IMG_4956.jpeg

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