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  • S Stevepep

    @ReallyRandy Cain is on SNP on Telegram; that is their official channel. There is only one. He reponds their frequently. You can also email him through the website and he is very responsive.

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    @Stevepep Thanks. I wqs on the wrong Chanel. Cain sent me the link. Now I'm on the correct one. Thank you.

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    • S Shaqdiesel

      @ReallyRandy As far as I know there is only 1 Nexaph. Maybe you got the wrong TG channel?

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      @Shaqdiesel You were correct. Thank you

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        I’ve had a few orders from them and all have been verified with 3rd party testing. I can’t remember all of the vendors used but they ran from Freedom to Vanguard and Jano so I’m happy with that. There’s a strong 3rd party testing community for them which is not the case with most.

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        • RandyR Randy

          @e_kantor2 They test what they are sent and they report back what appear to be accurate results. Since the nonsense with the owner I have had multiple community members send samples in (mislabeled or properly labeled) since I wanted to be sure.

          I'm sure...but I personally wont use them.

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          @Randy After the back to back ILS glitches, now I'm skeptical to buy/use any products with their COAs. I've a few vials with ILS COAs in my stash.

          What do you think?

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            @Randy After the back to back ILS glitches, now I'm skeptical to buy/use any products with their COAs. I've a few vials with ILS COAs in my stash.

            What do you think?

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            Did anybody get Nexaph's Tesamorelin? Is it a good quality one? They have no ready COA for the one they sell now.

            Also, I wouldn't be so alarmed about 100% purity. Tools have an error margin. It is usually both ways: +-, like +-0.005%. If your measured value is 100.000% +-0.005%, it means it can be 99.995% - 100.000% (obviously it can't be over 100%). I take it this way.

            attentiion is all you need

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              @vpeptides I have used Nexaph Tesamorelin in the past (in fact, I just recently got more from them). Now all batches I both received and used had COAs that fell within my comfort zone. That said, I have purchased things in the past from Nexaph that did not have COAs at the time they arrived. I simply waited (approximately a week I believe) for the COAs to catch up before deciding whether to use them or not. YMMV.

              Oh... and one other matter. Since Nexaph sends all of their testing to Janoshik, and Janoshik does not provide purity for 5-amino-1mq, I have sent the 5-amino-1mq I purchased from Nexaph out for testing to a different lab. Always came back golden.

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              • R ReallyRandy

                @atlas01 Not really. I love their products and prices. I just don't want to throw my money away. I got on Telegram and thought I was chatting with the people who I ordered from. They said they have nothing to do with US Nexaph. I didn't know there were two. Do you know which one you order from? I'm looking for help. Thank you.

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                @reallyrandy I was in the wrong nexaph telegram for awhile. If you bought directly from that group you likely got scammed. Nexaph has a telegram but does not sell anything

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                • vpeptidesV vpeptides

                  Did anybody get Nexaph's Tesamorelin? Is it a good quality one? They have no ready COA for the one they sell now.

                  Also, I wouldn't be so alarmed about 100% purity. Tools have an error margin. It is usually both ways: +-, like +-0.005%. If your measured value is 100.000% +-0.005%, it means it can be 99.995% - 100.000% (obviously it can't be over 100%). I take it this way.

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                  @vpeptides said:

                  Did anybody get Nexaph's Tesamorelin? Is it a good quality one? They have no ready COA for the one they sell now.

                  Also, I wouldn't be so alarmed about 100% purity. Tools have an error margin. It is usually both ways: +-, like +-0.005%. If your measured value is 100.000% +-0.005%, it means it can be 99.995% - 100.000% (obviously it can't be over 100%). I take it this way.

                  Testing their tesa/ipa blend now. It’s doing well for my little rat.

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                    I have researched Nexaph Tesa. Been happy with it. Except the swelling and joint aches, which in retrospect probably means dosage was too high.

                    Edit: IIRC, i had to delay researching it for a month or two as the testing was in process, but they had 3 different batches in the testing pipeline, so it maybe just took a while. Makes sense if you bought it right when it was in stock.

                    Please set a funny and sarcastic signature line. It brings me joy. Thank you for your attention in this matter.

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                    • vpeptidesV vpeptides

                      Did anybody get Nexaph's Tesamorelin? Is it a good quality one? They have no ready COA for the one they sell now.

                      Also, I wouldn't be so alarmed about 100% purity. Tools have an error margin. It is usually both ways: +-, like +-0.005%. If your measured value is 100.000% +-0.005%, it means it can be 99.995% - 100.000% (obviously it can't be over 100%). I take it this way.

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                      @vpeptides I bought some of this Tesamorelin batch a couple of weeks ago. I reached out as to status and they expected the COA last week. Obviously it still hasn’t been posted. I’ll give it another week before I start asking again (as I don’t need it yet)

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                      • RandyR Randy

                        I think he's referring to the MZ biolabs one he posted in another thread. Honestly there is a reason nobody really uses MZ except a few boomer companies. I've seen them show 30% +/- fills on things that are later debunked by another lab. Point being they have a record of flubbing the numbers.

                        Could the test be accurate? Yes. Is there a chance their standard is off or someone made an oopsie with your sample? Yes.

                        Send a vial to AFI, Trustpointe, Vanguard, Jano or Kovera (pains me to say it)

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                        @Randy

                        Gasp! I was just about to try MZ because I thought it'd be faster than Vanguard. I'm really impressed with what I have seen from Vanguard. So, thanks for the redirect...and all of the other golden comments you have posted!

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                          Nexaph started adding more testing options in July, now doing Mass/Purity, Sterility, Heavy Metals & Entotoxins.

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                            @vpeptides said:

                            Did anybody get Nexaph's Tesamorelin? Is it a good quality one? They have no ready COA for the one they sell now.

                            Also, I wouldn't be so alarmed about 100% purity. Tools have an error margin. It is usually both ways: +-, like +-0.005%. If your measured value is 100.000% +-0.005%, it means it can be 99.995% - 100.000% (obviously it can't be over 100%). I take it this way.

                            Testing their tesa/ipa blend now. It’s doing well for my little rat.

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                            @derekg1 said:

                            @vpeptides said:

                            Did anybody get Nexaph's Tesamorelin? Is it a good quality one? They have no ready COA for the one they sell now.

                            Also, I wouldn't be so alarmed about 100% purity. Tools have an error margin. It is usually both ways: +-, like +-0.005%. If your measured value is 100.000% +-0.005%, it means it can be 99.995% - 100.000% (obviously it can't be over 100%). I take it this way.

                            Testing their tesa/ipa blend now. It’s doing well for my little rat.

                            Running their CJC-1295/IPA blend myself. Flush is strong, no injection site issues, so far so good.

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                              @vpeptides I bought some of this Tesamorelin batch a couple of weeks ago. I reached out as to status and they expected the COA last week. Obviously it still hasn’t been posted. I’ll give it another week before I start asking again (as I don’t need it yet)

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                              @vpeptides It appears that the Nexaph Tesamorelin COA was just posted.

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                              • RandyR Randy

                                I think he's referring to the MZ biolabs one he posted in another thread. Honestly there is a reason nobody really uses MZ except a few boomer companies. I've seen them show 30% +/- fills on things that are later debunked by another lab. Point being they have a record of flubbing the numbers.

                                Could the test be accurate? Yes. Is there a chance their standard is off or someone made an oopsie with your sample? Yes.

                                Send a vial to AFI, Trustpointe, Vanguard, Jano or Kovera (pains me to say it)

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                                @Randy wow, first off- you are officially the most even-keeled and equitable person on the face of the planet for this comment. Second, you've actually reached a level of confidence in Kovera that you would include them? Sorry if I missed it, but is there anything on the forum that shows good evidence of their validity?

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                                  Read some discussion on Nexaph TG channel that they are starting to use Freedom due to long Janoshik delays?? 😭

                                  Was finally excited to start using Nexaph as they are adding endotoxin testing.

                                  Also what's the deal with their MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too.

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                                    Yeah I question that reasoning. The pre-order items have the testing done within about 2 weeks of people receiving the item. That's not a long time.

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                                      I appreciate that they are putting out 97% purity COA transparently, but that difference is huge. Is there an explanation? I read Randy's blog which analysed why mass can be quite different but purity should match. Right?

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                                        Read some discussion on Nexaph TG channel that they are starting to use Freedom due to long Janoshik delays?? 😭

                                        Was finally excited to start using Nexaph as they are adding endotoxin testing.

                                        Also what's the deal with their MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too.

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                                        @pep_researcher said:

                                        MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too

                                        You are right. The same batch, 97.6%-97.7% on Janoshik COA and 99.99% for Tesa on Freedom Diagnostics COA. What does it tell us?

                                        attentiion is all you need

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                                          @pep_researcher said:

                                          MOTS-C showing 97% purity on Jano and then 99% on Freedom?? Exactly same thing with Tesa too

                                          You are right. The same batch, 97.6%-97.7% on Janoshik COA and 99.99% for Tesa on Freedom Diagnostics COA. What does it tell us?

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                                          @vpeptides Is Lilly adulterating Nexa manufacturing plant as some kind of infiltration technique?

                                          Just kidding, or maybe not, getting conspiracy theories!

                                          But yeah I'm curious too, and then did Nexaph get a second COA from Freedom because Jano showed such a low purity results?

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