TO: PEPTIDE PLUGS - If You're Reading This...
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@pep_researcher I know for now if you want to play it safe it’s Janoshik, AFI, Vanguard and Trustpoint. Kovera seems to be coming on
@Stevepep who exclusively uses them? And who uses Trustpoint? Thats one Ive only seen mentioned in this community but I haven't seen any coas on vendor sites Ive scoured.
Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.
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@Stevepep who exclusively uses them? And who uses Trustpoint? Thats one Ive only seen mentioned in this community but I haven't seen any coas on vendor sites Ive scoured.
@BeeKind Many vendors were indeed using AFI and Trustpointe. I remember Ion using AFI at one point and had seen Trustpointe on some vendors although I don't remember names, but yeah not anymore.
Now you see Kovera and ILS everywhere. Not even Vanguard. I remember Mile High used Vanguard when I bought from them a few months ago. Oneday used Vanguard too. Now everyone is using ILS and Kovera for new batches. Only about 5 months old batches have Vanguard. Sad to see this.
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@Stevepep who exclusively uses them? And who uses Trustpoint? Thats one Ive only seen mentioned in this community but I haven't seen any coas on vendor sites Ive scoured.
@BeeKind it’s fair question what happened is the good labs fell behind and didn’t want to mess up their processes by speeding up so that created the cheaper faster lab opportunities and as long as there is a COA that shows what people want to see the vendors where fine with it. It’s a race to the bottom. And most of the market thinks every lab test is the same. Studz is using vanguard, obviously, nexaph and Ez Janoshik. I hear Mile high has some stuff at trustpoint. You will see it more and more. The better labs charge more and take longer and the better vendors use them. Those that want fast and cheap are easy to spot that’s the good news in this new world
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@BeeKind it’s fair question what happened is the good labs fell behind and didn’t want to mess up their processes by speeding up so that created the cheaper faster lab opportunities and as long as there is a COA that shows what people want to see the vendors where fine with it. It’s a race to the bottom. And most of the market thinks every lab test is the same. Studz is using vanguard, obviously, nexaph and Ez Janoshik. I hear Mile high has some stuff at trustpoint. You will see it more and more. The better labs charge more and take longer and the better vendors use them. Those that want fast and cheap are easy to spot that’s the good news in this new world
Mile high has some stuff at trustpoint.
The last time I checked Mile High had all Kovera COAs. They were my preferred vendor before when they used Vanguard.
Many used Vanguard when originally they announced 7/7 testing a few months ago. But Vanguard is ISO certified and was probably not having turnaround time that the "fast kids" wanted, so they switched.
I didn't find Studz using Vanguard. It's some unheard lab Sterigenix. Can you refer me to any product page with Vanguard COA?
I've seen Peptide Crafters using Phametric for endotoxins only. Anyone heard of it?
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I realize you're not in the Vendor Directory here for reasons, whatever. I realize you re-opened a couple of weeks ago and I ordered Wolverine Plus 30mg. from you (no copper). Great blend, good Freedom COA.
It's a VERY NICE product thus far, HOWEVER, your shipping cost is TOO EXPENSIVE! I have never paid over $16 shipping for a single, or multiple vials that did not qualify for free shipping; most shipping was $14 or less. He did throw in a vial of Cagri when I late ordered it and asked him, so he is willing.
The above being said, it's better for me to buy single peps and mix myself (TB/BCP/KPV). Should you decide to adjust your shipping costs within the areas stated above, I will buy more from you. For those who don't mind the shipping cost, go for it.
Wishing you all the best. Your WP is a great product!
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@BeeKind Many vendors were indeed using AFI and Trustpointe. I remember Ion using AFI at one point and had seen Trustpointe on some vendors although I don't remember names, but yeah not anymore.
Now you see Kovera and ILS everywhere. Not even Vanguard. I remember Mile High used Vanguard when I bought from them a few months ago. Oneday used Vanguard too. Now everyone is using ILS and Kovera for new batches. Only about 5 months old batches have Vanguard. Sad to see this.
@pep_researcher can you tell me any vendors who currently use TrustPointe? I haven't seen any. Same with AFI. I've only seen the new fly-by-night labs (ILS, KOVERA, etc), and Vanguard, Freedom etc.
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@Eleanor He is openly selling HGH now and thinking calling it Prime 191 will outsmart the AI and the FDA, I guess.
He needs to be careful as a USA Texas based vendor. 2nd question is why? Margins on everything else slipping? -
@pep_researcher can you tell me any vendors who currently use TrustPointe? I haven't seen any. Same with AFI. I've only seen the new fly-by-night labs (ILS, KOVERA, etc), and Vanguard, Freedom etc.
@BeeKind Currently no. But I saw about 5 months ago. Trying to remember names. If I can trace I will post here.
Five months ago RUO was doing great. Around the time some political events caused unwanted attention to peptides, a lot of illiterate newbies flooded the market. That's when BAC went on shortage, prices were jacked up, vendor sales exploded, and new labs popped up — everyone wanting a piece of the huge customer pie.
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@BeeKind Currently no. But I saw about 5 months ago. Trying to remember names. If I can trace I will post here.
Five months ago RUO was doing great. Around the time some political events caused unwanted attention to peptides, a lot of illiterate newbies flooded the market. That's when BAC went on shortage, prices were jacked up, vendor sales exploded, and new labs popped up — everyone wanting a piece of the huge customer pie.
@pep_researcher what do you think of https://mdxbiolabs.com/ that biolongevity uses?
attentiion is all you need
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@pep_researcher what do you think of https://mdxbiolabs.com/ that biolongevity uses?
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@pep_researcher they do show COAs for pretty much every compound, even the pills, but they don't have public batch numbers (they have some internal ids on COAs, but only expiration dates on the vials).
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I had a good order experience with peptide plugs and will probably make another one but this is a good reminder to get and use single-use CC numbers for online purchases, especially anything peptide related!
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Do they have any affiliate codes? I randomly tried Peptidecritic but didn't work
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I don't like their trick with "no password" login. It means that if I know your email I can see all your information including your addresses and orders. All other vendors for example that have your email may check it. https://peptideplugs.com/wp-login.php
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Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad buyers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.
How do we all feel about this? I respect that any seller can choose who to sell to and really respect that chargebacks are painful for vendors to but to create a do not fly list that spreads across industry because any owner is butt hurt is weird.
My guess is that most RUOs are desperate for revenue and wont do this. I wonder what @randy thinks
Here's the site https://badcustomers.org/
and his post https://x.com/tonymission/status/2113075049607598342?s=20
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Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad buyers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.
How do we all feel about this? I respect that any seller can choose who to sell to and really respect that chargebacks are painful for vendors to but to create a do not fly list that spreads across industry because any owner is butt hurt is weird.
My guess is that most RUOs are desperate for revenue and wont do this. I wonder what @randy thinks
Here's the site https://badcustomers.org/
and his post https://x.com/tonymission/status/2113075049607598342?s=20
Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad sellers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.
Let them! What determines a 'bad customer'? What if the experience is a complaint, like the one I'm about to post re: Peptide Crafters?
If they do that, I don't buy from them any more. It's calling me a bad person, and other vendors had be very careful in accepting Plugs judgement.
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Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad sellers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.
Let them! What determines a 'bad customer'? What if the experience is a complaint, like the one I'm about to post re: Peptide Crafters?
If they do that, I don't buy from them any more. It's calling me a bad person, and other vendors had be very careful in accepting Plugs judgement.
@Eleanor my bad - i meant "bad buyers"....corrected! It's a bit weird to me. Their prices are good it seems but i dont know much else about Peptide Plugs. Owner has an "aggressive" personality on X at least but par for the course in Pep sapce except for Rory and Zak
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@Eleanor my bad - i meant "bad buyers"....corrected! It's a bit weird to me. Their prices are good it seems but i dont know much else about Peptide Plugs. Owner has an "aggressive" personality on X at least but par for the course in Pep sapce except for Rory and Zak
@Eleanor my bad - i meant "bad buyers"....corrected! It's a bit weird to me. Their prices are good it seems but i dont know much else about Peptide Plugs. Owner has an "aggressive" personality on X at least but par for the course in Pep sapce except for Rory and Zak
Define "buyers"? You mean the general public like us? I'm assuming that's it...
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