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  • E Eleanor

    I realize you're not in the Vendor Directory here for reasons, whatever. I realize you re-opened a couple of weeks ago and I ordered Wolverine Plus 30mg. from you (no copper). Great blend, good Freedom COA.

    It's a VERY NICE product thus far, HOWEVER, your shipping cost is TOO EXPENSIVE! I have never paid over $16 shipping for a single, or multiple vials that did not qualify for free shipping; most shipping was $14 or less. He did throw in a vial of Cagri when I late ordered it and asked him, so he is willing.

    The above being said, it's better for me to buy single peps and mix myself (TB/BCP/KPV). Should you decide to adjust your shipping costs within the areas stated above, I will buy more from you. For those who don't mind the shipping cost, go for it.

    Wishing you all the best. Your WP is a great product!
    peptideplugs.com

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    @Eleanor He is openly selling HGH now and thinking calling it Prime 191 will outsmart the AI and the FDA, I guess. 🤣 He needs to be careful as a USA Texas based vendor. 2nd question is why? Margins on everything else slipping?

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      @BeeKind Many vendors were indeed using AFI and Trustpointe. I remember Ion using AFI at one point and had seen Trustpointe on some vendors although I don't remember names, but yeah not anymore.

      Now you see Kovera and ILS everywhere. Not even Vanguard. I remember Mile High used Vanguard when I bought from them a few months ago. Oneday used Vanguard too. Now everyone is using ILS and Kovera for new batches. Only about 5 months old batches have Vanguard. Sad to see this.

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      @pep_researcher can you tell me any vendors who currently use TrustPointe? I haven't seen any. Same with AFI. I've only seen the new fly-by-night labs (ILS, KOVERA, etc), and Vanguard, Freedom etc.

      Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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        @Eleanor He is openly selling HGH now and thinking calling it Prime 191 will outsmart the AI and the FDA, I guess. 🤣 He needs to be careful as a USA Texas based vendor. 2nd question is why? Margins on everything else slipping?

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        @flyhigh Saw the Prime 191 but didn't check it out. Will see what happens.

        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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          @pep_researcher can you tell me any vendors who currently use TrustPointe? I haven't seen any. Same with AFI. I've only seen the new fly-by-night labs (ILS, KOVERA, etc), and Vanguard, Freedom etc.

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          @BeeKind Currently no. But I saw about 5 months ago. Trying to remember names. If I can trace I will post here.

          Five months ago RUO was doing great. Around the time some political events caused unwanted attention to peptides, a lot of illiterate newbies flooded the market. That's when BAC went on shortage, prices were jacked up, vendor sales exploded, and new labs popped up — everyone wanting a piece of the huge customer pie.

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            @BeeKind Currently no. But I saw about 5 months ago. Trying to remember names. If I can trace I will post here.

            Five months ago RUO was doing great. Around the time some political events caused unwanted attention to peptides, a lot of illiterate newbies flooded the market. That's when BAC went on shortage, prices were jacked up, vendor sales exploded, and new labs popped up — everyone wanting a piece of the huge customer pie.

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            @pep_researcher what do you think of https://mdxbiolabs.com/ that biolongevity uses?

            attentiion is all you need

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              @pep_researcher what do you think of https://mdxbiolabs.com/ that biolongevity uses?

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              @vpeptides MDx Biolab had ISO certification and currently awaiting renewal so I would rank them higher in the same category as Vanguard or Janoshik. But I have not seen many vendors use them. Didn't know about Biologevity. They don't display COAs publicly so I didn't consider them before.

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                @vpeptides MDx Biolab had ISO certification and currently awaiting renewal so I would rank them higher in the same category as Vanguard or Janoshik. But I have not seen many vendors use them. Didn't know about Biologevity. They don't display COAs publicly so I didn't consider them before.

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                @pep_researcher they do show COAs for pretty much every compound, even the pills, but they don't have public batch numbers (they have some internal ids on COAs, but only expiration dates on the vials).

                attentiion is all you need

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                  WATCH YOUR CREDIT CARD! I'm not saying Plugs is responsible for anything, but feel sure it's a vendor site responsible for the $1515 chg on my CC. Just don't know which one yet.

                  Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                    I had a good order experience with peptide plugs and will probably make another one but this is a good reminder to get and use single-use CC numbers for online purchases, especially anything peptide related!

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                      Do they have any affiliate codes? I randomly tried Peptidecritic but didn't work

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                        I don't like their trick with "no password" login. It means that if I know your email I can see all your information including your addresses and orders. All other vendors for example that have your email may check it. https://peptideplugs.com/wp-login.php

                        attentiion is all you need

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                        • E Eleanor

                          @flyhigh Saw the Prime 191 but didn't check it out. Will see what happens.

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                          Eleanor Yea he is going to look out and see the DEA rollin. 😂 HGH appears to be the purview of the DEA vs the FDA?

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                            Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad buyers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.

                            How do we all feel about this? I respect that any seller can choose who to sell to and really respect that chargebacks are painful for vendors to but to create a do not fly list that spreads across industry because any owner is butt hurt is weird.

                            My guess is that most RUOs are desperate for revenue and wont do this. I wonder what @randy thinks

                            Here's the site https://badcustomers.org/

                            and his post https://x.com/tonymission/status/2113075049607598342?s=20

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                              Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad buyers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.

                              How do we all feel about this? I respect that any seller can choose who to sell to and really respect that chargebacks are painful for vendors to but to create a do not fly list that spreads across industry because any owner is butt hurt is weird.

                              My guess is that most RUOs are desperate for revenue and wont do this. I wonder what @randy thinks

                              Here's the site https://badcustomers.org/

                              and his post https://x.com/tonymission/status/2113075049607598342?s=20

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                              @SSB said:

                              Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad sellers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.

                              Let them! What determines a 'bad customer'? What if the experience is a complaint, like the one I'm about to post re: Peptide Crafters?

                              If they do that, I don't buy from them any more. It's calling me a bad person, and other vendors had be very careful in accepting Plugs judgement.

                              Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                @SSB said:

                                Old thread but I saw today that Peptide Plugs owner is creating a website to block "bad sellers" who are "jerks" and he is licensing that database to other peptide vendors who can populate it. He posted all about it on his X.

                                Let them! What determines a 'bad customer'? What if the experience is a complaint, like the one I'm about to post re: Peptide Crafters?

                                If they do that, I don't buy from them any more. It's calling me a bad person, and other vendors had be very careful in accepting Plugs judgement.

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                                @Eleanor my bad - i meant "bad buyers"....corrected! It's a bit weird to me. Their prices are good it seems but i dont know much else about Peptide Plugs. Owner has an "aggressive" personality on X at least but par for the course in Pep sapce except for Rory and Zak

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                                  @Eleanor my bad - i meant "bad buyers"....corrected! It's a bit weird to me. Their prices are good it seems but i dont know much else about Peptide Plugs. Owner has an "aggressive" personality on X at least but par for the course in Pep sapce except for Rory and Zak

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                                  @SSB said:

                                  @Eleanor my bad - i meant "bad buyers"....corrected! It's a bit weird to me. Their prices are good it seems but i dont know much else about Peptide Plugs. Owner has an "aggressive" personality on X at least but par for the course in Pep sapce except for Rory and Zak

                                  Define "buyers"? You mean the general public like us? I'm assuming that's it...

                                  Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                    @SSB said:

                                    @Eleanor my bad - i meant "bad buyers"....corrected! It's a bit weird to me. Their prices are good it seems but i dont know much else about Peptide Plugs. Owner has an "aggressive" personality on X at least but par for the course in Pep sapce except for Rory and Zak

                                    Define "buyers"? You mean the general public like us? I'm assuming that's it...

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                                    @Eleanor that’s what I think the owner of that site wants to do. Basically a do not fly list of consumer buyers shared by RUO sellers.

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                                      @Eleanor that’s what I think the owner of that site wants to do. Basically a do not fly list of consumer buyers shared by RUO sellers.

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                                      A list built into the guts of the Ecommerce systems these sites use. So it auto blocks purchases and in some cases even blocks access to the website entirely

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                                        Given that most vendors already blacklist customers who don’t pay or create other problems, it seems a bit unlikely that if I am an RUO vendor who isn’t a complete POS, I am going to buy a client list of people who have outed you as selling garbage. Unless I am also shady, in which case you’re all doing me a favor and I will sign myself up for you to block me. My .02.

                                        Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

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                                          Given that most vendors already blacklist customers who don’t pay or create other problems, it seems a bit unlikely that if I am an RUO vendor who isn’t a complete POS, I am going to buy a client list of people who have outed you as selling garbage. Unless I am also shady, in which case you’re all doing me a favor and I will sign myself up for you to block me. My .02.

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                                          @ResearchCat Agree!

                                          Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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