Reta doomsday
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@commander He’s implying that you are holding Heisenberg volumes of Reta, not street corner volumes.
Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude
If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.
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@commander He’s implying that you are holding Heisenberg volumes of Reta, not street corner volumes.
@ResearchCat thats when the prices get hillarious. Saw a datasheet with 1 or 5k moq pricing. Talking kits of r40 for like 6 bucks.makes you feel stupid paying what you pay.
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@commander He’s implying that you are holding Heisenberg volumes of Reta, not street corner volumes.
@ResearchCat
Oh… Nope, just wanted enough so I don’t ever have to worry about it again. Since I only take it low dose I am good. I bought it from Pros-Bio before he skipped town and screwed people.
Unfortunately with the other stuff I take, I can barely keep a 2 year supply on hand, it takes up too much room
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I tried Reta and it did its job however i want to try a GLP without Glucagon.
My RHR was always running high so i think longterm that cant be good
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@diegoc Chris Duffin calls Reta the Ferrari that can be too much for a sub section of the population, he converts them to Tirz/MOTS-C/SS-31 and calls it the Rolls Royce Stack. I am going to give it a shot one day....pun inteded.
@bfuller Thats the exact stack i start on Monday.
Start with 500mcg of Tirz and work my way up to 1.5 but as long as i hit my protein targets, that tells me my dose
Ive done the 1gram ss-31 protocol so cell should be good.
Ss-31 on Gym Days 3mg 4x a week
Mots-C on Non gym days with Fasted Cardio around 10mg a week. -
@bfuller Thats the exact stack i start on Monday.
Start with 500mcg of Tirz and work my way up to 1.5 but as long as i hit my protein targets, that tells me my dose
Ive done the 1gram ss-31 protocol so cell should be good.
Ss-31 on Gym Days 3mg 4x a week
Mots-C on Non gym days with Fasted Cardio around 10mg a week. -
Not sure how they were getting away with it in the first place. It not an FDA Green Listed product.
@Newenough The money they must have minted from it makes it all worth it. Plus these are just peptides not hard drugs with regulatory prohibitions. So people take their chances and end up building mansions.
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@Newenough The money they must have minted from it makes it all worth it. Plus these are just peptides not hard drugs with regulatory prohibitions. So people take their chances and end up building mansions.
@Newenough The money they must have minted from it makes it all worth it. Plus these are just peptides not hard drugs with regulatory prohibitions. So people take their chances and end up building mansions.
Possible, but if they can prove damages (compensatory and punitive), plus attorney fees, they could lose all that and then some. If Eli is looking for scalps, they'll get them. If nothing else, to prove a point.
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@Newenough The money they must have minted from it makes it all worth it. Plus these are just peptides not hard drugs with regulatory prohibitions. So people take their chances and end up building mansions.
Possible, but if they can prove damages (compensatory and punitive), plus attorney fees, they could lose all that and then some. If Eli is looking for scalps, they'll get them. If nothing else, to prove a point.
@Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change
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@Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change
@Stevepep I'm missing context here. So you mean Dems will come down harder on peptides, not just GLPs but others too? I know FDA has some nutjobs who did that autocratic sneaky move in 2023 and still dragging their feet, but I'm not sure if overall this can be pinned on a specific party.
EL has everybody in their pocket, so they may go after sale of GLPs and compounders, but that's bipartisan. Look at the SAFE drug act nonsense, it was a bipartisan bill from Illinois R and D fellas.
Not sure of the 2 yr timeline, there is already enough nonsense which will increase regardless of changes in WH.
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@Stevepep I'm missing context here. So you mean Dems will come down harder on peptides, not just GLPs but others too? I know FDA has some nutjobs who did that autocratic sneaky move in 2023 and still dragging their feet, but I'm not sure if overall this can be pinned on a specific party.
EL has everybody in their pocket, so they may go after sale of GLPs and compounders, but that's bipartisan. Look at the SAFE drug act nonsense, it was a bipartisan bill from Illinois R and D fellas.
Not sure of the 2 yr timeline, there is already enough nonsense which will increase regardless of changes in WH.
@pep_researcher Not Dems or Republicans, the candidate. The president has control over the agencies, and this administration does not like Pharma after being misled during the early stages of Covid. RFK Jr is no friend to Pharma. Both parties have many people who are on the take from Pharma I am not making this a party thing at all. I posted a while ago a list of the politicians who are on the take its both parties.
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@pep_researcher Not Dems or Republicans, the candidate. The president has control over the agencies, and this administration does not like Pharma after being misled during the early stages of Covid. RFK Jr is no friend to Pharma. Both parties have many people who are on the take from Pharma I am not making this a party thing at all. I posted a while ago a list of the politicians who are on the take its both parties.
@Stevepep Oh okay gotcha!
I wasn't in the US during COVID time, but I have heard a lot of animosity and doubt around COVID vaccine. Also why are they STILL pinning people with that. I was in a not so rich pharma country during COVID, they barely managed to give 2 shots to most of the population and then stopped. No more COVID vaccine after 2022.
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@Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change
@Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change
I kinda agree. If Lilly can prove the "RUO" designation was a known fiction designed solely to illegally distribute an unapproved drug, and trying to hide behind an LLC shield, a judge could likely rule that the company was being used to promote the fraud, which is a primary trigger for piercing the corporate veil. Making the owners personally responsible.
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@Newenough they just declare bankruptcy and start the business under a new name. The whole thing is for the media attention and to try and pressure regulators. The next presidential election will be huge it’s regulation v common sense. This administration will thumb their nose at Lilly now they have a lot of politicians in their pocket so the next cycle will be massive for peptides. We have a 2 year window where not much will change
I kinda agree. If Lilly can prove the "RUO" designation was a known fiction designed solely to illegally distribute an unapproved drug, and trying to hide behind an LLC shield, a judge could likely rule that the company was being used to promote the fraud, which is a primary trigger for piercing the corporate veil. Making the owners personally responsible.
@Newenough It's almost impossible, and they have the money so tied up you could never collect it if they just get decent legal advice. Now if its criminal thats entirely different
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@Stevepep Oh okay gotcha!
I wasn't in the US during COVID time, but I have heard a lot of animosity and doubt around COVID vaccine. Also why are they STILL pinning people with that. I was in a not so rich pharma country during COVID, they barely managed to give 2 shots to most of the population and then stopped. No more COVID vaccine after 2022.
@pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones
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@pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones
@Stevepep I see. It'll be interesting because the peptide craze ship has sailed. Now there's no stopping. So it's also possible that the new administration just pivots and invest in that more if they see that people are willing to spend on it.
In two more years the interest and research is further going to grow exponentially.
Because if they try to go against people's will, they might lose their positions.
Never underestimate the power of numbers
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@pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones
@pep_researcher It's not a secret that RFK is no fan of vaccines and Pharma. Trump has gone after Pfizer to release all of the COVID records, which they haven't done. They are just not going to bow down to Pharma; we may not have that in two years. Right now, the regulators aren't going to play along. Now if it's defense than different story. Like drones
If trump is the secret special access patient that is getting reta from Lilly I'd imagine he'd try to stay on friendly terms with them. He's a nut job when it comes to vaccines sure, but he's not averse to giving favors to any company or government that will advantage him including pharma imo
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