Hospira 0.9% Bacteriostatic Sodium Chloride (30 mL)
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Oh, here they go at Peptidetest.com RAISING THE PRICE! Inching that price up....By one whole dollar. A--holes.
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This all sounds greek to me….
So does that mean we can or can’t do it?Depends upon the compound. I still find peptideprotocols.com very helpful. I use it with SS31 and it also runs very well w/MOTS-C. If you look up the pep in the contents tab, you should find some reference to it.
@Eleanor Hi Eleanor, I clicked the link to check this site out, but it was a link to nowhere
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Waiting to try NaCl on my next vial of NAD buf. Meanwhile, I just did my first starter dose of MOTS-C w/NaCl and not even a tingle.
@Eleanor Would you let me know how the Buffered NAD works with NaCl? I've got some on the way I'll immediately try with MOTS but it'll be a minute before I need to make a new NAD cart.
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@Eleanor Would you let me know how the Buffered NAD works with NaCl? I've got some on the way I'll immediately try with MOTS but it'll be a minute before I need to make a new NAD cart.
@Eleanor Would you let me know how the Buffered NAD works with NaCl? I've got some on the way I'll immediately try with MOTS but it'll be a minute before I need to make a new NAD cart.
Sure. More than happy to let you know.
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@Eleanor Would you let me know how the Buffered NAD works with NaCl? I've got some on the way I'll immediately try with MOTS but it'll be a minute before I need to make a new NAD cart.
Sure. More than happy to let you know.
Peptidetest.com see if that works.@Eleanor Yep - Ordered last week after reading this thread. Should be here mid week and I'll be ready to make a new MOTS just at the right time, but it'll be another week before I make SS-31 or NAD. All the discussion about buffered vs unbuffered NAD just got me questioning. I'm happy to sacrifice a NAD vial to check if it'll reduce sting, but would love to hear about it before it's time to try. Many thanks in advance!
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I used to use Hospira Sodium Chloride, mainly because before I got into peptides, I was getting my tirzepatide compounded and noticed that the vial listed sodium chloride as an ingredient. I later read that 0.9% sodium chloride is the same concentration as normal saline and is considered isotonic, meaning it has a similar salt concentration to human body fluids.
I’ve only used it with Triz, though. For my other peptides, I switched to Hospira BAC water, only because I don't know enough about the science.
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I used to use Hospira Sodium Chloride, mainly because before I got into peptides, I was getting my tirzepatide compounded and noticed that the vial listed sodium chloride as an ingredient. I later read that 0.9% sodium chloride is the same concentration as normal saline and is considered isotonic, meaning it has a similar salt concentration to human body fluids.
I’ve only used it with Triz, though. For my other peptides, I switched to Hospira BAC water, only because I don't know enough about the science.
@mexpep Yep, and it being isotonic is the reason I switched to using it to reconstitute my MOTS-c and SS-31, helps with the injection site reaction. Also just used it to reconstitute some Semax to put into a nasal spray. Works like a champ.
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You guys do know NaCl is Saline water (saline solution) right? The label must explicitly state the exact chemical breakdown (e.g., "0.9% Sodium Chloride", which means 900 mg of USP-grade salt per 100 mL of water) and confirm if any preservatives or buffers.
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You guys do know NaCl is Saline water (saline solution) right? The label must explicitly state the exact chemical breakdown (e.g., "0.9% Sodium Chloride", which means 900 mg of USP-grade salt per 100 mL of water) and confirm if any preservatives or buffers.
@EXTROPIAN it’s exactly the same thing as Hospira Bac with NACL added and sold for 1/3 the price by the case which just highlights what a rip off Hospira Bac is
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You guys do know NaCl is Saline water (saline solution) right? The label must explicitly state the exact chemical breakdown (e.g., "0.9% Sodium Chloride", which means 900 mg of USP-grade salt per 100 mL of water) and confirm if any preservatives or buffers.
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2 different products. I was confused too. NaCl and Bacteriostatic NaCL.
So when everyone is referring to NaCl I hoping that they are referring to the bacteriostatic version.
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So I had high hopes for this, but… after 1 week my Tesa/Ipa turned cloudy. And my unbuffered NAD seems to be stinging more and more every day with the BAC SC.. so far it is ok with Mots-c and SS-31. So my hopes of getting less buries is gone…
@Commander Thanks I have only been using it for SS-31 and MOTS-C and it works far better for me. I was able to handle MOTSC at 6mg 3x per week without even a red bump. 3mg used to be itchy and red. Everyone has different tolerance though
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I was hoping it would be good for Tesa and NAD too, but I will Continue to use this For they MOTS-C and SS-31 for awhile.
@Commander BAC water containing sodium chloride (NaCl) shouldn't be used with unbuffered NAD+ only buffered versions. With unbuffered, it'll just make the injection worse.
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@Commander BAC water containing sodium chloride (NaCl) shouldn't be used with unbuffered NAD+ only buffered versions. With unbuffered, it'll just make the injection worse.
@mrjoshua44 curious why is that. It doesn’t affect the PH.
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@Commander BAC water containing sodium chloride (NaCl) shouldn't be used with unbuffered NAD+ only buffered versions. With unbuffered, it'll just make the injection worse.
@Commander BAC water containing sodium chloride (NaCl) shouldn't be used with unbuffered NAD+ only buffered versions. With unbuffered, it'll just make the injection worse.
The first couple of days it wasn’t, but then it got bad
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Yes—if it is Hospira Bacteriostatic 0.9% Sodium Chloride, you can use it to reconstitute unbuffered NAD+. That is the preferred diluent class for NAD+ when a buffered product is not available.
It may reduce the osmotic/local-welt component of the reaction, but it will not neutralize the NAD+ solution’s acidity, which is usually the main reason unbuffered NAD+ burns or stings. A pre-buffered NAD+ product is the better fix for that; otherwise, slower administration, more dilution within the vial’s capacity, and site rotation are the practical levers.
From Peptide Fox AI I will not vouch for this, as I asked for a source and it couldn't point to one other than some drivel
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So I had high hopes for this, but… after 1 week my Tesa/Ipa turned cloudy. And my unbuffered NAD seems to be stinging more and more every day with the BAC SC.. so far it is ok with Mots-c and SS-31. So my hopes of getting less buries is gone…
@Commander did you actually notice a difference with MOTS-C? I still get redness and post sting with it, maybe less though.
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