Hospira 0.9% Bacteriostatic Sodium Chloride (30 mL)
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@Paradox I looked into using it for GHK-CU thinking it might lessen my reaction. this is what I get about can I use it to recon GHK-CU...
"No, you should avoid using sodium chloride solutions for GHK-Cu. GHK-Cu (glycyl-L-histidyl-L-lysine copper) should instead be reconstituted using standard Bacteriostatic Water (sterile water with 0.9% benzyl alcohol).Why Sodium Chloride is Not RecommendedCopper Displacement: Sodium chloride or saline solutions can cause the sodium and chloride ions to interfere with or displace the copper(II) ion bound in the GHK-Cu tripeptide complex, which can reduce its stability and potency.Injection Comfort vs. Stability: While bacteriostatic sodium chloride contains a preservative (benzyl alcohol), the salt component itself is unnecessary and chemically suboptimal for copper peptides compared to plain bacteriostatic water.Best Practices for Mixing GHK-CuCorrect Solvent: Use plain Bacteriostatic Water (containing 0.9% benzyl alcohol) to prevent bacterial growth over multi-dose use." -
@Paradox Using it for GHK-cu would only amplify the stinging, not reduce it. The NaCl does not play well with the pH of the GHK-cu.
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I just started using it for SS31 and MOTSC, no ISR at all. With just Hospira BAC I would get a nice itchy red spot for a bit from both. I was going to try it for NAD, but it's not recommended if it's buffered, and I have the Nexaph buffered and I get no reaction to it anyway.
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I just started using it for SS31 and MOTSC, no ISR at all. With just Hospira BAC I would get a nice itchy red spot for a bit from both. I was going to try it for NAD, but it's not recommended if it's buffered, and I have the Nexaph buffered and I get no reaction to it anyway.
I just started using it for SS31 and MOTSC, no ISR at all. With just Hospira BAC I would get a nice itchy red spot for a bit from both. I was going to try it for NAD, but it's not recommended if it's buffered, and I have the Nexaph buffered and I get no reaction to it anyway.
Steve what did you start using with SS31 and MOTS-C
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I just started using it for SS31 and MOTSC, no ISR at all. With just Hospira BAC I would get a nice itchy red spot for a bit from both. I was going to try it for NAD, but it's not recommended if it's buffered, and I have the Nexaph buffered and I get no reaction to it anyway.
Steve what did you start using with SS31 and MOTS-C
@Commander Hospira Sodium Chloride BAC water. It's actually a lot cheaper than standard BAC water, which makes no sense. I ordered it here. https://peptidetest.com/products/pfizer-hospira-bacteriostatic-sodium-chloride-for-injection-30-ml
For me, it made a big difference on day one.
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I know it can't be used with some stuff. But I can'y find the list. What can it be used with? and did it help withISR? I have bumps from Motsc and NAD....Can it be used with those?
@Commander yes it helped me a lot. As long as it’s NAD that isn’t buffered like you get from grey. No bump at all from motsc in my one use so far
From what I gather it can be used in SS31, MOTSC and the unbuffered form of NAD. Not on GHK-CU or any blend containing it. So far I have pinned one time using it with Motsc and SS31 and no red bump
Update: 2nd time and nothing; it works for me
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@Commander You aren't supposed to use it on the buffered because of the PH
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@Commander You aren't supposed to use it on the buffered because of the PH
@Stevepep i’ve heard that, but I’ve also heard and or read that you can use it with buffered. I’ve tried normal bac water as well as NACL backwater for NAD buffer, and for me there’s a huge difference. I actually get ISR and bruising from NAD injections without using NACL bac water. So I use NACL for it now.
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@commander , this may be helpful if you don’t have a version of your own. I know there are several versions floating around.
https://peptidefox.com/content/reconstitution -
@Stevepep i’ve heard that, but I’ve also heard and or read that you can use it with buffered. I’ve tried normal bac water as well as NACL backwater for NAD buffer, and for me there’s a huge difference. I actually get ISR and bruising from NAD injections without using NACL bac water. So I use NACL for it now.
@JtCjEfF That is good to know because for me it has made a big difference. Mots-C and SS31 seem to give me a nice, itchy red bump. The NACL BAC, instead of regular BAC, made it go away. I can't believe its so much cheaper as well it shows you the rip of that th hospira regular BAC is.
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@commander , this may be helpful if you don’t have a version of your own. I know there are several versions floating around.
https://peptidefox.com/content/reconstitution@JtCjEfF I really like that site, PeptideFox. @mrjoshua44 gets the credit; it's a good one. Just don't make the mistake of signing up; they will harass you for the monthly fee. I asked the AI a question and then was asked to sign up, which I did, and now every time I get the pop up. And of course I am considering it lol
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@JtCjEfF I really like that site, PeptideFox. @mrjoshua44 gets the credit; it's a good one. Just don't make the mistake of signing up; they will harass you for the monthly fee. I asked the AI a question and then was asked to sign up, which I did, and now every time I get the pop up. And of course I am considering it lol
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@Commander Hospira Sodium Chloride BAC water. It's actually a lot cheaper than standard BAC water, which makes no sense. I ordered it here. https://peptidetest.com/products/pfizer-hospira-bacteriostatic-sodium-chloride-for-injection-30-ml
For me, it made a big difference on day one.
@Commander Hospira Sodium Chloride BAC water. It's actually a lot cheaper than standard BAC water, which makes no sense. I ordered it here. https://peptidetest.com/products/pfizer-hospira-bacteriostatic-sodium-chloride-for-injection-30-ml
For me, it made a big difference on day one.
SS31, you bet it works. NAD buffered, hmm, IDK, wouldn't try it.
I want to know if I can use it with CARTALAX? That stings the hell out of me!
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So I just bought a case from Medex, I will give it a try with Mots-c and SS-31. I sm up in the air about trying it with my NAD. The vendor says it is buffed, but it doesn’t sting a little. It it is buffed NAD and I use this what will happen so I know it isn’t any good?
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Well, I can't for the life of me remember the source I used, but I remembered I posted this on an older thread, talking about the Bacteriostatic 0.9% NaCl solution. I'll keep trying to find the source I used.
most water-soluble peptides work well with BAC 0.9% Sodium Chloride; GLP-1 agonists (semaglutide, tirzepatide, retatrutide), Growth hormone secretagogues (CJC-1295, ipamorelin, sermorelin), Healing peptides (BPC-157, TB-500), Cognitive peptides (Selank, Semax).
Critical Exceptions
Copper-Containing Peptides GHK-Cu and AHK-Cu, NAD+ and the following require more of an acidic dissolution; IGF-1 LR3, IGF-1 DES, MGF, PEG-MGF, Follistatin, and Melanotan I.For my own research purposes, I've only used it for MOTS-c and SS-31 to reduce injection site reactions.
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Well, I can't for the life of me remember the source I used, but I remembered I posted this on an older thread, talking about the Bacteriostatic 0.9% NaCl solution. I'll keep trying to find the source I used.
most water-soluble peptides work well with BAC 0.9% Sodium Chloride; GLP-1 agonists (semaglutide, tirzepatide, retatrutide), Growth hormone secretagogues (CJC-1295, ipamorelin, sermorelin), Healing peptides (BPC-157, TB-500), Cognitive peptides (Selank, Semax).
Critical Exceptions
Copper-Containing Peptides GHK-Cu and AHK-Cu, NAD+ and the following require more of an acidic dissolution; IGF-1 LR3, IGF-1 DES, MGF, PEG-MGF, Follistatin, and Melanotan I.For my own research purposes, I've only used it for MOTS-c and SS-31 to reduce injection site reactions.
@mrjoshua44 it was peptidefox I think
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So I just bought a case from Medex, I will give it a try with Mots-c and SS-31. I sm up in the air about trying it with my NAD. The vendor says it is buffed, but it doesn’t sting a little. It it is buffed NAD and I use this what will happen so I know it isn’t any good?
@Commander me too how dumb is it that it’s so much less than hospital bac. 110 a case l. Yes people 4:40 a bottle. How much you think they mark up Hospira Bac. https://medexsupply.com/bacteriostatic-sodium-chloride-0-9-injection-30-ml-25-box/?sku=PFZ-00409196607&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22733881887&gbraid=0AAAAADmq-DfAUpAdtznTUiTKY3YlmibuR&gclid=Cj0KCQjw--7UBhCpARIsAGJBptgKDNyE_ZK3yxtj5HLDkPCH3PZYK1CQbfGgrbClbCwOKOWKilNa_CEaApY_EALw_wcB
Just wait we create demand and it will be $16
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