CJC no Dac/Ipa question
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Opinions, please.
Would it behoove someone to take this, if they had very low body fat and low visceral fat? Mainly for the recovery aspects?
I have some in my freezer for my hubby’s rat, but he doesn’t want to take it now. His rat is doing Reta and Wolverine.
My female rat has always been very fit, but she hasn’t been able to lift weights since the beginning of the year, due to two surgeries (she isn’t sick, it was revisions of previous surgeries). Hopefully she will get the green light to lift next week at her recheck. She feels “skinny fat” right now. Would this help her with recovery or should she just tough it out?
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Tesa/Ipa is the blend that really focuses on the fat, CJC+ will work great for recovery and building a little but my rat didn't see anything until month 3.
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Opinions, please.
Would it behoove someone to take this, if they had very low body fat and low visceral fat? Mainly for the recovery aspects?
I have some in my freezer for my hubby’s rat, but he doesn’t want to take it now. His rat is doing Reta and Wolverine.
My female rat has always been very fit, but she hasn’t been able to lift weights since the beginning of the year, due to two surgeries (she isn’t sick, it was revisions of previous surgeries). Hopefully she will get the green light to lift next week at her recheck. She feels “skinny fat” right now. Would this help her with recovery or should she just tough it out?
@jackiee My buddy….Lets call him “Sam” started trying Sermorelin about a year and a half ago. He originally went to a local men’s health clinic to get his testosterone checked because he was in his late 40s and wanted to better understand where things stood. His testosterone came back naturally around 750, which was solid, so he didn’t fill like testosterone was the best fit. From there, the clinic brought up peptides as another option, and Sam decided to look into it and give it a try.
He started with a 16-week cycle of Sermorelin and noticed that some of his everyday aches and pains improved. He also dropped some weight, felt better overall, and added a little muscle. It was not an overnight change, but it was enough that he felt like he was moving in the right direction. Sam has always enjoyed lifting, but staying consistent was the biggest challenge. Once he became more comfortable with peptides, he started researching other options, including IPA/CJC. The clinic didn’t offer that so that when Sam when out on his own.
In Sam’s experience, IPA/CJC made the biggest difference for weight loss and muscle retention. He noticed continued progress with his weight and a visible improvement in muscle mass. That said, he still felt Sermorelin helped more with aches and pains. As he continued learning and getting more comfortable, he eventually added reta into the mix. Over about eight months, along with focusing on protein, staying in a calorie deficit, and doing resistance training three days a week, he went from 230 pounds down to 180.
One of the biggest benefits for Sam was being able to limit muscle loss while cutting, even though some muscle loss is expected anytime someone loses a significant amount of weight. Overall, he looks better, feels better, and seems more active. He would not say it made him feel like a completely different person, but he does feel noticeably better than he did before. He still has normal aches and pains, but mentally he seems to be in a better place, and feeling better about himself has made a real difference.
Sam recently finished his second overall cycle of IPA/CJC and is taking a four-week break before starting again. Based on his experience, he feels it has been a game changer for him and its his go to blend, but he would also tell anyone interested to do their research and make sure it is the right fit for them. His sister had asked him about it, but because she has a history of skin cancer, he recommended that she look into other options. Sam still says Sermorelin is a great first peptide to consider for anyone interested in learning more about peptides. -
Great to hear! I think I will try giving it to my female rat. I have lifted for years. I’m a personal trainer and a group fitness instructor. This is the longest I have went without working out and it has been TOUGH! I need to gain back about 5 pounds of muscle, without losing any body fat. Praying that my doc gives me the green light next week!
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The Cjc/Ipa & Wolverine blends have made the biggest difference for me as far as healing nagging injuries & rest/recovery. I only do the Cjc/Ipa before bed on an empty stomach. But some folks get a 30min flush & elevated heart-rate, so they take it fasted in the morning. Not a doctor… but I really think it could aid in recovery after surgery. The recommended starting dosages are low enough that you could try 1 or 2 vials out and know if it’s helping by the time you’re done with them. Best of luck!
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Thanks! I have 2 vials to try! I should have a good feel by then. As far as fasting before bed, I usually eat a steak between 4 and 5, depending on what time I get home, and I don’t eat after dinner, usually
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The Cjc/Ipa & Wolverine blends have made the biggest difference for me as far as healing nagging injuries & rest/recovery. I only do the Cjc/Ipa before bed on an empty stomach. But some folks get a 30min flush & elevated heart-rate, so they take it fasted in the morning. Not a doctor… but I really think it could aid in recovery after surgery. The recommended starting dosages are low enough that you could try 1 or 2 vials out and know if it’s helping by the time you’re done with them. Best of luck!
@Jake_PepTron Sam takes the IPA/CJC in the morning because RETA conflicts with digestion timing, and his work schedule can be unpredictable at night while he’s on the road and taking clients out….okay enough with Sam…. I also think morning dosing is better for my sleep. During my first cycle, I took it at night and didn’t sleep well. In the morning, I’m already fasted, so I take it and usually eat 45 minutes to an hour later, which is about when it starts to wear off. That way, I feel like I’m getting the full benefit—letting it fire up my system for the first 30 to 45 minutes, then adding protein right after to support muscle growth. I also tried the Wolverine stack and just finished an eight-week cycle. It didn’t really help me, but that may just be my experience. I have nagging shoulder injuries from lifting that I hoped it would fix quickly, but it didn’t and I might be to far gone. That’s probably partly my fault because I kept lifting through it. I really need to take a break and let myself heal while using that stack. I may try it again later, but I have zero patience.
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I would also recommend taking amino acids at that time. I understand the argument that if you eat enough meat, you may not need them, but I see them as an added benefit for supporting muscle synthesis. They’re not very expensive, so I added them to my regimen. I’m down to around 17% body fat, which is probably about as lean as I’m going to get. The weight loss has been good, but I still have some stubborn fat at the mid section, slightly loose skin that may/will be there forever unless I cut down even more. At this point, I don’t see much benefit in doing that, especially since, as you mentioned, I’d be concerned about losing more muscle. For now, I’m focused on gaining some muscle weight back to help with that. If people ask, I usually tell them I’ve been in my bulking stage for 25 years, and now I’m finally in my cutting stage. lol
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I’m a carnivore 95% of the time (holidays and cruises make up the other 5%). I eat 120-130 grams of protein per day and I’m around 116, hoping to get back to 120-123 after I start lifting again. My body fat is around 17% (My Hume says 16% now and the Dexa I had just before my June surgery said 18%)
I’m not saying that I don’t need amino acids, it’s just something that I never thought about.
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I’m a carnivore 95% of the time (holidays and cruises make up the other 5%). I eat 120-130 grams of protein per day and I’m around 116, hoping to get back to 120-123 after I start lifting again. My body fat is around 17% (My Hume says 16% now and the Dexa I had just before my June surgery said 18%)
I’m not saying that I don’t need amino acids, it’s just something that I never thought about.
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I’m a carnivore 95% of the time (holidays and cruises make up the other 5%). I eat 120-130 grams of protein per day and I’m around 116, hoping to get back to 120-123 after I start lifting again. My body fat is around 17% (My Hume says 16% now and the Dexa I had just before my June surgery said 18%)
I’m not saying that I don’t need amino acids, it’s just something that I never thought about.
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@steiny, are these aminos you’re talking about supplements, or yet even more pokies?
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@jackiee my Hume is certain my fat is 12-13%, while 2 DEXA scans tell me 27-28% so I am not taking it seriously for now.
@vpeptides said:
@jackiee my Hume is certain my fat is 12-13%, while 2 DEXA scans tell me 27-28% so I am not taking it seriously for now.
I think the leaner you are, the closer. To accurate it is. I’ve had a few Dexa’s since I bought the Hume and the Hume have consistently been about 2% lower than the Dexa. Mine has been consistent
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@vpeptides said:
@jackiee my Hume is certain my fat is 12-13%, while 2 DEXA scans tell me 27-28% so I am not taking it seriously for now.
I think the leaner you are, the closer. To accurate it is. I’ve had a few Dexa’s since I bought the Hume and the Hume have consistently been about 2% lower than the Dexa. Mine has been consistent
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@steiny, are these aminos you’re talking about supplements, or yet even more pokies?
@SpaceGhost supplements https://a.co/d/0i2z64Ad
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I had looked into this previously. Wouldn't an EAA supplement be more beneficial if you were going to go this route?
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I had looked into this previously. Wouldn't an EAA supplement be more beneficial if you were going to go this route?
@Mydogdaryl423 yes, good catch I meant to send 2 options of aminos bacc and eaa for people to look at based of what’s out there…I take these below and my friends call me a child because they are gummies but I have a sweet tooth and it helps my mental state and I get sick of downing pills. Some say if you get enough protein then bacc are good enough but again it’s preference eaa is more complete.
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