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BPC-157 or Wolverine?

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    diegoc
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    Why i said this court is really a community however im willing see the facts and for Trevor there not good.

    All good so enough of this and lets get to peptides

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      @beachfun Are we talking about that Chriopractor who lost his license to practice, and got caught cheating on fitness tests? I can't even watch that guy; all he does is yell, rant, and talk about how he's helping his family while promoting his $ 250,000-a-year service. That dude is not looking out for anyone but himself, and the fact that he can't even practice chiropractics in California and was forced to move to Texas makes me think he doesn't even care about his patients or viewers. This space needs better influences. Trevor is not one of them.

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      beachfun
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      @Bobbish A friend sent me a couple Youtube shares. I had a hard time listening to those rants and learned to fast forward to the information. I am new to all this and I have shared information about peptides but from a doctor who was sick and they were the thing that saved his life not pharmaceutical. My dad just died following those protocols Peptides critic came up only because I watched those videos of Trevor. I am 3 weeks into this journey and was hoping to research here. I get it that Jeff has some discernment about Trevor and wants to warn us. Obviously, I am here to learn from those that want to share their research experiences and I am very grateful for what Randy has gone through for us.
      I prefer to hear why peptides can be mixed in the same shot like who researched what and why, which ones, etc.
      I only shared what Jeffs comments about Trevor reminded me of during covid when doctors were trying to speak of anything but the clot shot.
      Can we now go back to researching because I feel amazing since starting peptides…

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        Why i said this court is really a community however im willing see the facts and for Trevor there not good.

        All good so enough of this and lets get to peptides

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        beachfun
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        @diegoc Amen! brother

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          Randy
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          My discernment with Trevor is how he misrepresents his expertise. A specific recent one is using bpc forever...there's a very good chance that will lead to a malignancy. Give Jay Campbell a look. He is a salesmen but hes been in this space walking the walk longer then I've legally been allowed to buy beer.

          Right now we are having tests done by AFI on the degradation of GLP and MOTS-C refrigerated and unrefrigerated. Once this is done a month and a half ill send him a few kits and get bpc, tb4 and wolverine tested separately before and after recon to see what actually happens to the peptide chains in a clinical setting. Who knows... Trevor could be right?

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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            That is great! I love hearing about studies and I love the passion you have. While down in San Diego for my dad’s celebration of life I learned my sister in law just started triz when I did. I was able to explain what peptides are and do. I made my brother understand there isn’t a concern if her body is reacting well with digestion. I love to research and to share also Studies. Thanks!

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              I'm a big fan of Dr Trevor Bachmeyer on Youtube and he suggests taking them all separately, the biggest being GHK CU. The copper peptide is very dominant and can dramatically mute the effects of the other peptides so he recommends separating that injection by itself and by at least 20 minutes. I am currently using BPC 157 daily and TB 500 twice a week. I am fairly new still to peptides myself so I'm no expert either.

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              @tedmarshall I’ve tried to sit through some of his videos and just can’t. He brags all the time about being a “Doctor” and they way he speaks with all the medical terms and vocabulary is just the kind of thing great sales people do. But he lost me when he said that he could cure Bruce Willis. I mean, how arrogant. But he is just a Chiropractor though.

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                beachfun
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                Well, he did get me hyped and started but hard to listen to for some real information. He is a gateway guy for peptides but now I seek the doctors who communicate in a informed, professional manner. They are the ones whom I trust and don’t talk about a $25000 blackcard to consult in a group chat once a week while saying he doesn’t care about money. Kinda like an oxymoron

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                  @randy Any opinion on a dosage protocol for my Skink on the Wolverine blend Bpc/Tb? 10/10. Some say 2.5mg 2x-3x a week. Some say 500mcg daily? What is your take?

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                    diegoc
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                    I think it depends on your skunks issue.

                    Minor pains
                    Medium pains
                    Extreme pains

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                      I haven’t heard of 2.5x3. The most common protocol I have seen is 500/500/day for maintenance or 1mg/1mg/day for injury repair or surgical recovery. I research the former, currently as Glow with ~2.8mg GHK just bc that is how the blend works out.

                      Every day that I wake up is further evidence of my immortality.

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                        @randy Any opinion on a dosage protocol for my Skink on the Wolverine blend Bpc/Tb? 10/10. Some say 2.5mg 2x-3x a week. Some say 500mcg daily? What is your take?

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                        @USSLiberty Personally my take is to always start on that low dose and see how you feel after doing it a couple times. Then go up if you aren’t feeling the desired effects. My bunny reacts completely different to my results. This is a marathon of life not a sprint, although I have a tendency to want to try more so I bought my peptides refrigerator this week and have probably a 18-24 month plan…

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                          theone
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                          I am currently taking a BPC-157 in pill form and want to try the nasal spray. I have ordered the gear and plan to make it. My question is the KLOW stack, can that be nasal inhaled effectively? I am new to all this as you can tell.

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                            @theone the molecular weight of BPC-157 is too high to be effective as a nasal spray. Must be 500 Daltons or lower to be absorbed

                            Peptides are only as good as your Bac Water

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                              kenhnsy
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                              Funny thing is that we all trust Randy's expertise here, but few (not me) know his background at all. It would be nice to have five or ten experts here hammer out the best protocols. But that could never happen. Its all blind trust.

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                                My discernment with Trevor is how he misrepresents his expertise. A specific recent one is using bpc forever...there's a very good chance that will lead to a malignancy. Give Jay Campbell a look. He is a salesmen but hes been in this space walking the walk longer then I've legally been allowed to buy beer.

                                Right now we are having tests done by AFI on the degradation of GLP and MOTS-C refrigerated and unrefrigerated. Once this is done a month and a half ill send him a few kits and get bpc, tb4 and wolverine tested separately before and after recon to see what actually happens to the peptide chains in a clinical setting. Who knows... Trevor could be right?

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                                chrams
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                                @Randy "Right now we are having tests done by AFI on the degradation of GLP and MOTS-C refrigerated and unrefrigerated."

                                I'm curious, did the results come in for this?

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                                  @Randy "Right now we are having tests done by AFI on the degradation of GLP and MOTS-C refrigerated and unrefrigerated."

                                  I'm curious, did the results come in for this?

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                                  Randy
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                                  @chrams im waiting on john to write them up. Should be the 3 month mark in a day or two then I get to make a video

                                  "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                    Funny thing is that we all trust Randy's expertise here, but few (not me) know his background at all. It would be nice to have five or ten experts here hammer out the best protocols. But that could never happen. Its all blind trust.

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                                    Randy
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                                    @kenhnsy If you know any experts please have them join. I could also use some guidance on a few protocols. This kit of pe-22-28 on my desk is kind of intimidating...to snort or not to snort.

                                    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                      Sable Darqness
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                                      Be certain to read it because I have noticed several versions, BPC-157 blended with a variety all called Wolverine

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                                        @theone the molecular weight of BPC-157 is too high to be effective as a nasal spray. Must be 500 Daltons or lower to be absorbed

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                                        theone
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                                        @MyB he mentions mixing it on one of his videos so it seems simple enough to make. Am I mistaken? I ordered BPC-157 from evolve and was going to try mixing as he mentioned.

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                                          martinmarin
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                                          No itching here but what the wolverine has done to my knee is just amazing! I am on my second week of localized pinning and my inflammation is gone with 20% improvement. My knee was in bad shape I was considering replacement.

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