Are We Gellin'?
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Unfortunately, this is not a Dr. Scholl's commercial.After the dose this morning I noticed something weird with my peptide that I never noticed before with any peptide. Is this the gelling I've heard people refer to? If not, what's going on? It is MOTS-C 40 mg reconstituted 16 days ago with 3mL Hospira BAC .9% sodium chloride. Hospira (not expired) has been opened for approximately 35 days, kept at room temp and wrapped in aluminum foil. Peptide has been kept refrigerated both before and after reconstitution.
I only have one week left in my 4 week protocol (short I know, first timer). If I open another 40mg the majority will be wasted as it will be older than I'm comfortable using when the next protocol comes up. Should I just end the protocol early?
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Unfortunately, this is not a Dr. Scholl's commercial.After the dose this morning I noticed something weird with my peptide that I never noticed before with any peptide. Is this the gelling I've heard people refer to? If not, what's going on? It is MOTS-C 40 mg reconstituted 16 days ago with 3mL Hospira BAC .9% sodium chloride. Hospira (not expired) has been opened for approximately 35 days, kept at room temp and wrapped in aluminum foil. Peptide has been kept refrigerated both before and after reconstitution.
I only have one week left in my 4 week protocol (short I know, first timer). If I open another 40mg the majority will be wasted as it will be older than I'm comfortable using when the next protocol comes up. Should I just end the protocol early?
@Nuncles
A week left? It doesn't look like there is enough left for one dose.I'd throw another 10u in there and see what it looks like in an hour or two...
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@Nuncles
A week left? It doesn't look like there is enough left for one dose.I'd throw another 10u in there and see what it looks like in an hour or two...
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@nuncles I saw a post like this on telegram, very similar and it went away when the vial warmed up. Maybe give that a shot. Its totally second hand from a post
@nuncles I saw a post like this on telegram, very similar and it went away when the vial warmed up. Maybe give that a shot. Its totally second hand from a post
I think this might be worth a try @nuncles 3ml is a small amount for 40mg., and I'd add a bit more BAC, IMO, as @stan-douglas suggested. The worse(r) thing that can happen is it won't work. Let us know.
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Added another 10 and let it get to room temp. Little grimmies are still there. Gonna toss it.
So is this the gelling I've heard of are something else going on?
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@Nuncles Sorry to hear that. Sad. I know where I get my 40mg MOTS and added 10ml in 10ml vial and it came out clear as a bell, fridges well. Dang, I know you hate tossing it.
@Eleanor it's all good. Next time I will recon with more. The protocols I saw had it reconstituted with 3mL. I didn't know any better. It was my first titration so those doses were small. Only got up to 3.75 mg. But I seemed to have good boost in energy. I'll know for sure next week when I'm off if it. I'll check to see what the units would be with 10ml and may give that a try.
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@Eleanor it's all good. Next time I will recon with more. The protocols I saw had it reconstituted with 3mL. I didn't know any better. It was my first titration so those doses were small. Only got up to 3.75 mg. But I seemed to have good boost in energy. I'll know for sure next week when I'm off if it. I'll check to see what the units would be with 10ml and may give that a try.
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@Nuncles I get it. Every protocol I've ever seen has a 3ml recon; it just seems standard. I think they're not filtering and using vial it came in, IDK but I completely ignore them. Then again, I use a syringe not a pen.
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@Eleanor yeah that's the difference. I input the dosage with 10mL and it was 123 units I think. I don't recon anything with a dose that's over 60 units. Unless I put it in my 1 V1 then it's 80 units.
@Nuncles I don't take a full mg. yet so defer to your math/dose. I just reconned 40mg MOTS w/10ml and it's 15 units in 1ml syringe. I've had to experiment with everything from 5ml on up. I got my MOTS at S1 and it came out perfect; not to say that there might be something wrong with the batch you got. I've just found, in my experiments, the amount of BAC makes a difference, along with temp, etc... You know all that, I know.
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@eleanor The dosage absolutely makes the difference. I've been doing 3.75mg titrating up to 5mg, which would have been 125 units with 10mL bac. I'm probably going to stay around 3 or 3.5. Seems to be working, and from what I've read Mots-c is not one that necessarily works better with higher doses. I'll try to keep it around 10mg per week for now. Even at 3mg with 10mL bac it puts the dose at 75 units which is well over most pens' 60 units max.
6mL of Bac makes 3mg makes it 45 units. So I will go with your advice of more bac, just slightly modified to accommodate the dosing from pens.
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@eleanor The dosage absolutely makes the difference. I've been doing 3.75mg titrating up to 5mg, which would have been 125 units with 10mL bac. I'm probably going to stay around 3 or 3.5. Seems to be working, and from what I've read Mots-c is not one that necessarily works better with higher doses. I'll try to keep it around 10mg per week for now. Even at 3mg with 10mL bac it puts the dose at 75 units which is well over most pens' 60 units max.
6mL of Bac makes 3mg makes it 45 units. So I will go with your advice of more bac, just slightly modified to accommodate the dosing from pens.
@Nuncles Other than a bad product, the BAC is the only thing I can come up with.
I don't know how you guys do it; my tiny dose has disrupted my sleep and I take MOTS and NAD at 5am, or earlier, each day. I can skip the MOTS (use NaCl BAC, BTW), but not the NAD, which is what I'm currently doing, plus reducing dose. It's all rather a pain in the ass.
I truly hope you stop gellin'. Let us know.
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Added another 10 and let it get to room temp. Little grimmies are still there. Gonna toss it.
So is this the gelling I've heard of are something else going on?
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@ogsteve I dont think that would be it. Many of us are using that for Recon and no issues.
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@Nuncles maybe the nacl BAC was a factor? Are you using that for comfort purposes? I haven’t tried it but I did 5mg 30iu with regular hospira BAC three days ago and it was like butter for me. 8mm 31ga in the love handles nice and slow.
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Always great to try and identify what if anything has caused an issue but it is worth mentioning that shit just happens sometimes. I've had this happen to one vial. Recon a second bought at the same time as the first with the same hospira and it was fine.
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