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    cathypowell
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    I am down 1 week on KLOW . I have tried ice, histamine pills, cream with the site reaction. It is red for 4-7 days. About the size of a nickel. Any suggestions, really need the KLOW for my chronic inflammation due to autoimmune.....

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      I am down 1 week on KLOW . I have tried ice, histamine pills, cream with the site reaction. It is red for 4-7 days. About the size of a nickel. Any suggestions, really need the KLOW for my chronic inflammation due to autoimmune.....

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      @cathypowell try diluting it down with more Bac

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        I am down 1 week on KLOW . I have tried ice, histamine pills, cream with the site reaction. It is red for 4-7 days. About the size of a nickel. Any suggestions, really need the KLOW for my chronic inflammation due to autoimmune.....

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        @cathypowell switched to the glute and this went away

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          @cathypowell switched to the glute and this went away

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          cathypowell
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          @e_kantor2 I have worse reaction in my glute than in my abdomen.

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            @e_kantor2 I have worse reaction in my glute than in my abdomen.

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            @cathypowell generally you want to add enough Bac so that the dose is at least 20iu

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              I am down 1 week on KLOW . I have tried ice, histamine pills, cream with the site reaction. It is red for 4-7 days. About the size of a nickel. Any suggestions, really need the KLOW for my chronic inflammation due to autoimmune.....

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              Sunshine-day
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              @cathypowell My research subject really is super sensitive to ghk-cu. I have learned to do all of the following "tricks", and as soon as I let up on one step the reaction comes back. Reactions are warm raised hard sore itching welts. I dilute with as much BAC as I can, ice before injecting, inject in the glutes, and always rotate. In my experience though, SS-31 has more of the itching reaction, like severe mosquito bite-bee sting type of reaction that lasts for 2-3 days. Hydrocortisone works best for treating after those. Good luck, it should get better.

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                3ml BAC and at least a 6mm pin. Avoid the belly. Flanks and Glutes work great

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                  Glutes had a red welt that has lasted 6+ days, belly gone in 2-3 days. Started week 2 yesterday. lower right belly last night no red spot

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                    I am down 1 week on KLOW . I have tried ice, histamine pills, cream with the site reaction. It is red for 4-7 days. About the size of a nickel. Any suggestions, really need the KLOW for my chronic inflammation due to autoimmune.....

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                    @cathypowell You could try using KPV on it's own if you're after the anti-inflammatory aspect of KLOW. The reality is, for some people the reactions to certain peptides like Mots-C, GHK-Cu and SS-31, are severe histamine responses and should therefore probably be avoided. Perhaps stacking KPV with BPC 157 and TB-500 may be more helpful to you, as it removes the copper from the equation. Another option for inflammation is low dose Naltrexone, which is a tiny pill taken daily. Here's a link to the stack I mentioned. Good luck!
                    https://peptidewiki.co/guides/bpc-157-kpv-tb-500-stack

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                      No idea about this really, but remember reading somewhere that you can "chase or flush" injection with bac water
                      pull some units of BAC water, for example: 10 into syringe
                      pull however many units of KLOW after that into the same syringe
                      inject.
                      Theoretically the last 10 units should be mostly BAC water and may? help.

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                        Switch to a 1/2” 3/16 is too swallow and often ends up subdermally not subq enough.

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                          I am using a 5/16" but will try the 1/2"

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                              I tried to switch from 5/16" to 1/2" for Cu-GHK, it didn't make much difference, it actually seemed too deep and caused more bruises. 5/16" is fine to me, not less. Using a mix with KPV and using more BAC water helped.

                              attentiion is all you need

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                                I went down to 32x4mm and started getting more bumps and ISR’s. 32x6mm or 31x5/6mm seems to be a sweet spot. Anything longer than 10mm(syringes mostly) and i get a lot of bruising due to severed capillaries.

                                Not specific to GHK.

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                                  KPV seemed to help my reaction I'm super sensitive. Also after you draw your dose go ahead and draw another 5 IU of bac water and split the injection to two sites. Glutes, underside of arms, love handles. Pretty much anywhere I got fat😂.

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                                    I have to hand it to you guys doing GHK-cu, GLOW/KLOW. I typically dont have an issue with researching any of these peptides. Even ones that seem to have a higher chance of ISR or reactions. Then I started KLOW two days ago... LOL. I fell like a damn pansy! No redness or ISR per se, but it stings and itches the entire day. Ill try the thigh today instead of abdomen to see if thats better. I did dilute quite a bit, and am using 6mm needles, maybe Ill try 8mm.

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                                      I have to hand it to you guys doing GHK-cu, GLOW/KLOW. I typically dont have an issue with researching any of these peptides. Even ones that seem to have a higher chance of ISR or reactions. Then I started KLOW two days ago... LOL. I fell like a damn pansy! No redness or ISR per se, but it stings and itches the entire day. Ill try the thigh today instead of abdomen to see if thats better. I did dilute quite a bit, and am using 6mm needles, maybe Ill try 8mm.

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                                      @JtCjEfF Try in the back, lower back/upper ass backside of love handle area. No issues there for me and my wife. Other places are a hard no for my wife.

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                                        No idea about this really, but remember reading somewhere that you can "chase or flush" injection with bac water
                                        pull some units of BAC water, for example: 10 into syringe
                                        pull however many units of KLOW after that into the same syringe
                                        inject.
                                        Theoretically the last 10 units should be mostly BAC water and may? help.

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                                        @senex_mus said:

                                        No idea about this really, but remember reading somewhere that you can "chase or flush" injection with bac water
                                        pull some units of BAC water, for example: 10 into syringe
                                        pull however many units of KLOW after that into the same syringe
                                        inject.
                                        Theoretically the last 10 units should be mostly BAC water and may? help.

                                        I did this for GHK-CU to finish an existing reconstituted vial and it helped. Next recon, I adjusted the amount of BAC.

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                                          Just offering my two cents but I always reconstitute KLOW 80mg (50/10/10/10) with 6 ml of bac. Knock on wood, I have never had a site reaction with any subject.

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