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Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)

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  • W WowwyZowwy

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    Josh Holyfield's take...
    https://youtube.com/shorts/W7_ajSR8-S8?si=b4nv03GgjMgZTEW1

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    @WowwyZowwy I didnt know the mechanism like Holyfield does, but it makes sense. Especially when he said the FDA approved version because that verifies what I read on the egrifta website. I dont think Josh holyfield is a clown. Sounds like he has a much deeper answer than any AI large language model has ever given me when I asked about the cold gelling. If someone has an AI account that gives you answers like Holyfield just explained then please send me a link to join in. The dumbass AI that whoop has just told me this morning that my labs are out of date from September 2025 because it thinks this is 2024 still. Thats closer to the experience I have had with AI. I have never gotten an answer like Josh Holyfield just gave an answer about tesamorelin. Maybe AI knows how stupid I am so it dumb down the answers it gives me. Even though im a nobody let me just say im not calling any large language model stupid or smart or useful or not useful at all. Im just relaying my experience with them. The 3 I use are chatGPT, Perplexity, and Gemini. AI isnt smart. It has a good memory and it has exceptional processing speed. That might come in handy for a game show or some shit, but dont do much on helping with medical issues. Its only as smart as what some idiot posted online. The 1 constant with AI is mathematics and thats because in math there are rules. Rules that cant be circumvented. You have to follow the rules or it dont work. AI is perfect for that. The whoop AI thing pissed me off so bad im dropping the service and switching to the garmin wearable they came out with. Basically the same thing but I trust Garmin AI much more than what I have gotten from whoop. Very disappointed in that.

    Damn I can get sidetracked easily. @wowwyzowwy thanks for the holyfield video, ill have to go check out his skool community. He already sounds like he has Jay Campbell beat by a large margin. Jay Campbell is just puppet. Whoever he works with is probably very intelligent amd he might be as well, but he isnt digging up these explanations behind albumin protein binding and all that. I promise his partner is.

    For those who dont have a gelling problem with tesamorelin then I say badass. I sincerely want everyone to get the results they desire from their peptide journey. If the way you prepare your peptides is working good for you then I say why fix something that isnt broken. I was merely throwing something out there I thought was interesting and I have personally experienced. The last time I used tesamorin a bought a 10 pack. I purposely mixed it with BAC water and put it in the fridge. Came back the next morning and it looked like a thick uncooked egg white balled up into a loose oval shape. Made me happy because I knew I got real tesamorelin. Used it as a test. You gotta find the positive in life or you are subjected to the other side. Think for yourself!!!! Please stay open minded and think for yourself, do whats best for you, this is all anecdotal when its done smoking amd we all know everyone is different. Especially metabolically. Think for yourself!!!!! Later

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    • vpepsV vpeps

      @Stones67 Albumin breakdown in the body follows a first-order exponential decay, which can be described with formula {initial amount} * (0.5)^({day} / 20)
      Assuming all klotho binds to albumin, it will degrade as fast as albumin does. We can easily create a table for both schedules.
      It looks like you'll be fine either way, weekly is smoother.
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      @vpeptides
      Jeez. I go mow the lawn and run a few errands and another chapter (with pictures!) in this novel has been written. I'm not simple minded but I do love an easy to understand graph. Thank you sir. Now if I was gonna go into orbit, on one of Elon's rockets, I think I'd pick the orange trajectory. Thus me and my bride of 26yrs are gonna go for the 5mcg weekly. Plus Diego knows his shit and has many months under his belt. This thread rules.

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      • vpepsV vpeps

        @diegoc I respect that position. Speculating, while entertaining, often results in necessity to defend a statement I am not very confident about, and I don't like doing it.

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        @vpeptides I understand but i dont like to speculate and this is not really a entertainment thread when it comes to peptides.

        I really like the test it method to see real facts and that helps ppl when you can give them real data.

        I like that your active, learning and helping ppl here, i just have a different style which you might think im just picking on you, but im not, i just want to make sure your giving information that is to the best of your knowledge because ppl actually take lots of guidance in these communities

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          Early Christmas present 🎁

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            Im probably going to do 3 months of FLGR in January at 10mg per week for my first cycle.

            Then take a break and assess…

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              I could finish my car with that kind of money. Good lord. πŸ˜‚

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                Diego certainly won't have issues with Vit B deficiency! But 10 vials a week?! You'll be the master of reconstitution for sure. I also snagged a cell factors max and will report back if I feel anything.

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                • P PeptidePete

                  Jeff- kindly relocate if not appropriate for a new category.

                  Multi-vial care package delivered today from BioLongevity, pinned both with 30 minutes between each. No site reactions, feel fine, great actually.

                  Super intrigued by both, I've done my homework. 60's male in great health, 2.5 year carnivore, focused on maximizing healthspan. Anyone else throwing caution to the wind and researching these two?

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                  @PeptidePete I'm a 5'4" 55 yr old female .. been lifting and active since teenage years , in fact I competed in body building in my early 20's..saying that to establish that I have always been body aware and cared about my health ( never endulged in ultraporcessed food , seed oils, fast food etc ) . I started FLGR micro in May this year and I am absolutely amazed.... my muscle memory came back ( had a lifting break of about 5 years during the covid era ) ... I have got back to my ideal weight 125 with solid muscle gains and energy , also on 1 mg of Reta per wk. and other peppy's for general mitochondrial health. I will take this compound forever πŸ˜‰ HIGHLY recommend it. Biolongevity has fantastic quality... Jay is a character as we all know ..so much to learn from his wisdom.

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                  • D diegoc

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                    Early Christmas present 🎁

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                    @diegoc that is the BEST GIFT !!!!

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                    • S Stones67

                      Diego certainly won't have issues with Vit B deficiency! But 10 vials a week?! You'll be the master of reconstitution for sure. I also snagged a cell factors max and will report back if I feel anything.

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                      @Stones67 if i do 10mg a week that would be 5 bottles a week, the vitamin B will just be like a double shot of espresso 😜

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                      • P PeptidePete

                        Here is the YT recording with Dr. Farber, inventor of the FLGR242:

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                        @PeptidePete unfortunately all the YT posts between Jay and Mike are removed , but they are now doing their weekly thing on Streamyard ... they big guys are trying to silence them πŸ˜‰

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                          Guys, how to you recon Klotho and FLGR, do you use 1 or 2 mg and BAC water or just sterile water? I wonder if using the whole vial, 2 mg may be not needed, also is BAC water not harmful for those molecules? I can't find the details anywhere. Also, I usually filter reconned peptides but this one is large (Klotho), over 1000 amino acids, and I am not sure passing it through a filter is a good idea.

                          attentiion is all you need

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                            Well buddy. If you filter this then i recommend you watch Randy do it with extra bac so you dont loose precious goods, thats your call.

                            You need 100% bac water, and i would use Hospira, thats me..

                            Klotho I recon with 1ml of Bac, if you split it save the .5 klotho for the next week, if you do every 13-14 days well then 1 shot of 1ml, you decide if you want to add to a pen for a 1 or 2 shotter, your call.

                            FLGR i think you have 2.5 bottles, this i would leave to @peptidepete since i havent recieved my batch and I dont plan to do it until mid Jan 2027, by then your probably you probably gained 15-20lbs of muscle and you can show me the research you have done. lol

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                              Guys, how to you recon Klotho and FLGR, do you use 1 or 2 mg and BAC water or just sterile water? I wonder if using the whole vial, 2 mg may be not needed, also is BAC water not harmful for those molecules? I can't find the details anywhere. Also, I usually filter reconned peptides but this one is large (Klotho), over 1000 amino acids, and I am not sure passing it through a filter is a good idea.

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                              @vpeptides In Jay Campbell's FLGR-242 Reconstitution Instructions, it recommends BAC water. The one you may be thinking of is the Cell Factors which you would reconstitute with sterile water (non-preserved).

                              Screenshot 2026-08-02 171150.png

                              The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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                                I too am on both alpha-Klotho-LR (MAB) and FLGR-242. Will repeat DEXA scan in mid-August.

                                The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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                                  @vpeptides In Jay Campbell's FLGR-242 Reconstitution Instructions, it recommends BAC water. The one you may be thinking of is the Cell Factors which you would reconstitute with sterile water (non-preserved).

                                  Screenshot 2026-08-02 171150.png

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                                  @ImaFrogNotaRat how do i get this chart for Cellfactors

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                                    Yeah, that would be great. Someone recommended that I reach out to BLL about any research or docs on their stuff and the CS lady disavowed having any materials on any of their products. I assume she thought I was trying to trap them into giving me protocols, but I was just asking for stuff someone else said they will send you.

                                    Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                                    If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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                                      @ImaFrogNotaRat how do i get this chart for Cellfactors

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                                      @diegoc Let me see if I can find one.

                                      The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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                                        @ImaFrogNotaRat how do i get this chart for Cellfactors

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                                        @diegoc

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                                        The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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                                          Also...
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                                          The epigenome is malleable. Squish responsibly.

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