Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)
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Related update. Speaking of Eli just bought a myostatin inhibitor from another pharma group for 2billion. My tinfoil idea of them pairing it with a glp is almost certainly their plan
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The FLGR "SlimAssist" sale mentioned above is just nuts. I bought 250 vials @~$16/vial. For me approx 1.5-2 years supply. Interestingly, the SlimAssist in the love-handle area usually give me and my wife a multi-day ISR, wheras the "plain" FLGR does not. Will be interesting to see if it goes away after a few weeks.
Wow best thing I ever did to re-enable my biology was check that Ferritin/TIBC (Total Iron Binding Capacity), then act on the terribly LOW reading with the oysters and octopus legs daily for 1.5 months. Feel great and my body has what it needs to perform. The barbaric and unnecessary TRT phlebotomies destroyed iron levels and building muscle with the FLGR (starting Dec) drained what low stores remained. Absolutely critical labs to have done.
Live and learn!
Been re-running a new SS-31 regimen now for several weeks still at just 60mg per day, every day. Still intend to try 120mg per day for a few weeks.
Switched from NEXAPH 5-Amino-1MQ 50mg vial subq per day to QSC/Tracy 50mg tablets @100mg per day ramping to 150mg per day as I explore tolerance. Also started back with O-304 at 600mg daily of the free-acid form but switching over to the salt form hopefully next week as better bioavailability and what is used in the human trials.
Feeling awesome, great stamina, a couple percent of body fat that came back somehow is coming back off.
A learning filled health journey. Never trust anyone, always do your own informed research. NEVER trust anyone that has "affiliate codes"!
OH PS- someone asked about mcg doses of FLGR. Not sure if that's a typo or what. My opinion based on nothing except anecdotes and hearsay, anything less than 1mg per week is a waste of time and effort.
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How is your local underskin reaction from FLGR242? Any soreness redness?
There can be depending on FLGR or Slim Assist and site of injection.
Whatever you do do not inject into muscle, ALWAYS subQ, unless you want days of a big painful knot.
I am led to believe a person get used to the albumin binder over time and ISR go away. It definitely did for me. SlimAssist although gave it to me again. Must be slight variations in batches.
Sore, small lump, redness, goes away after a few days.
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I’ve been lurking this thread long enough and the FOMO finally got to me. Just picked up 50 vials because the sale was too good. Hope the FLGR works as good for me too…
I’ve been lurking this thread long enough and the FOMO finally got to me. Just picked up 50 vials because the sale was too good. Hope the FLGR works as good for me too…
Please update the thread with your personal experience after a month or two on it?
For me it took 6-8 weeks to really shine when combined with variable-resistance training every few days. Built over 6 months.
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@peptidepete At this point, I would expect you to have a bacta tank so you can just soak in a peptide bath.
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Just had my 2nd injection of slim assist and my 4th resistance training on my tonal. I can’t say I feel any difference in being able to push through on lifts. I just want to quickly get jacked like you guys. Hopefully start seeing some difference in strength and body composition in the next couple months.
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Just had my 2nd injection of slim assist and my 4th resistance training on my tonal. I can’t say I feel any difference in being able to push through on lifts. I just want to quickly get jacked like you guys. Hopefully start seeing some difference in strength and body composition in the next couple months.
@denti
Patience young Jedi! Veins first (4-6 weeks). EAT. Follow your volume and strength score on tonal- you should see an uptick in your progress of both after about 4 weeks or so- add a few reps to your last set if not at failure. Muscle growth and definition becomes impossible to deny at about 8 weeks. That will boost motivation and all you'll want to do is train! -
After initial vial of SlimAssist (2mg FLGR242), I felt my muscles growing, especially the legs. At some point it was even painful so I thought it could be a blood clot and went to ER to take an ultrasound to check. Spent 7 hours like a fool for that 10 minutes procedure to only learn there is nothing, just muscles probably pushing the nerves or vessels. Anyway, I had to wait 2 weeks after the first dose (I planned once a week initially), and then used 1 mg instead of 2. I can tell I feel it again, this time I worked out my arms and the arms muscles are really pumped. I didn't have such a response to exercise before for sure. I plan for now to stick to 1 mg a week until my response settles down a bit.
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@Stones67 any weird side effects worth note? I feel like they'd be similar to gh
No FLGR negative sides whatsoever. None. Not AT ALL like GH.
Positives- The vascularity (unmistakable), craving workouts once this stuff kicks in over time and at higher doses (1mg/day). The ramp-up of those effects lasted for approx 6-8 weeks and tapered away as I packed on the skeletal muscle mass.
Side note for those on a GLP- YOU HAVE TO EAT PROTEIN (not garbage crap) and lots of it for this to generate a supercharging effect on lean mass. I would suggest Jaquish Biomedical Fortagen 2x daily + the biggest fatty ribeye(s) you can cram down. And roe, lots of roe
GH over 4-6IU I get the darn mitten-hands and clown-shoe feet
Otherwise I'd run 10 IU of the stuff. It's so cheap nowadays for pharma-grade+.@PeptidePete P1 here - love ALL good info here - Pete, sure value what you say, have a question I couldn't find answered. I'm 63 recently lost 70lbs on Terzepatide and learned how to eat right. Gained 15 lbs muscle (waist still same, don't see any fat added at all) - and take in 150grams/day of Whey Protein. Can't stomach Roe at all. No way. Uhuh can't do it. Or, yet - never say never. Why isn't Whey protein spoken about here? If what I've read/found out/heard Toro Poopoo?
Thanks much in advance.
Oh - into 3rd week of FLGR242 - Calisthenics 3 days with leg workout a little, Weights 3 days and take 1mg 242 30 minutes before weights 3x/week. Plan on being on it for months - thx all for the JayC code, and I am/will wait for sales.
Peace to all AND thanks to all for sharing. I HATE youtube/sales sh*t.
Almost forgot - 6' and 195lbs. AND have vascularity again - been over 30 years!!!
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One thing to keep in mind for everyone is that you can grow your muscles faster than you can grow your connective tissue, and torn muscles and tendons are very common when getting much stronger quickly. Pace yourself, listen to your body, and become glorious!
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Protocol question for the team: For someone starting out on a BLL stack, does this sound reasonable?
1 Vial Cell Factors / monthly
1 Vial SlimAssist / Weekly
X3 monthsSuggestions, corrections, other input welcomed, including and especially things one should or should not do while following these protocols.
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One thing to keep in mind for everyone is that you can grow your muscles faster than you can grow your connective tissue, and torn muscles and tendons are very common when getting much stronger quickly. Pace yourself, listen to your body, and become glorious!
@ResearchCat "the only side effect is greatness"
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One thing to keep in mind for everyone is that you can grow your muscles faster than you can grow your connective tissue, and torn muscles and tendons are very common when getting much stronger quickly. Pace yourself, listen to your body, and become glorious!
One thing to keep in mind for everyone is that you can grow your muscles faster than you can grow your connective tissue, and torn muscles and tendons are very common when getting much stronger quickly. Pace yourself, listen to your body, and become glorious!
My husband tore the bicep on each arm due to this. Dr had started him on test-c (250mg weekly) so he could build back muscle after he was cancer free. The first tear was carrying a sheet of plywood. The second was pulling himself up on a piece of equipment at work.
The tears did not happen working out and lifting heavy, just doing every day common stuff. -
@myb Yeah, I have had a couple of bad muscle tears and tendon strains when I wasn’t doing anything particularly strenuous. It’s frustrating, especially since for me, that usually means months, not days or weeks, off training.
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I'm thinking of adding Lipo-C from Nexaph with my Slim Assist (FLGR242) weekly dose. Any thoughts or suggestions? I sort of feeling like I am in no mans land on what I am actually doing. I want to gain muscle/mass yet I still want to lose my lower belly fat. So really trying to target specific fat loss area which I know is not possible. And I don't think I should be trying to lose anymore weight as I'm at 155lbs at 5'10. I think I should be eating more to help gain muscle yet I don't actually want to gain weight. Feeling confused on what the path forward is.
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Experimenting with FLGR-242 for about 3 or 4 weeks now. Definitely think I've seen some improvement, but will come back with more later.
Came across this video about the difficulty of producing legit Klotho: https://youtu.be/LT_ty3kOHDg?is=YPJmbEfKC6ysirRh
I understand what BLL is selling is their own alpha-Klotho product, but can anyone elaborate on the difference, or how their Klotho is produced?
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