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Mots-c and SS-31

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  • R ResearchCat

    I saw an ad for clinic and trainers on how to make a ton of money with NAD+ injections and/or IV’s. You basically blast the client with NAD+ for $400-1,000(I have seen $1,800 for IV’s) and the rush and energy they get brings them back every month.

    That being said, I am finishing an NAD+ run now (50mg/day) and a MOTS-C cycle next week. I will definitely keep running MOTS-C for the observed increase in work capacity but don’t see the need to run NAD+ again in the short-medium run since I am crushing my current workout load.

    (If we are going to talk about useless NAD+, let’s point at all the oral supplement pimps and laugh. 😉 )

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    @ResearchCat coming from the bodybuilding bro science i dealt with in highschool to young adulthood. i was always hammered from jump. orals arent safe when it came to anabolics since its more load on the liver and just not worth the efficacy loss. i know the stomach acids make alot of the glps basicly useless in oral form. but are absolutely any of the peptide orals useful? i contemplated looking into slu,atx, and bam. but shy'd away when all i could find is orals currently.

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    • J Juan Doe

      @vpeptides NMN or NR???? what are those?

      @gym.rat Niacinamide? Vitamin B3? in what form? Cream, pill, injection?

      My mind is going places right now because of this.

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      @Juan-Doe Watch this for a bunch of info. I've been using it for like 8 months as I have severe arthritis in my big toe due to a soccer injury and I played through it for years (big mistake!). Now at some point I need to have surgery for a joint replacement, but I'm too young.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWSfGrh-gus

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        @ResearchCat coming from the bodybuilding bro science i dealt with in highschool to young adulthood. i was always hammered from jump. orals arent safe when it came to anabolics since its more load on the liver and just not worth the efficacy loss. i know the stomach acids make alot of the glps basicly useless in oral form. but are absolutely any of the peptide orals useful? i contemplated looking into slu,atx, and bam. but shy'd away when all i could find is orals currently.

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        @quicksilver80 I'm testing SLU-PP orally now and I think its a waste, but some have said that you need very large doses which is then cost prohibitive. So I don't have a good answer for you. At 2mg daily of SLU, I don't think I notice a thing. However, it is also supposed to help burn fat, but I don't have much fat to burn so I can't really help there either.

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          @quicksilver80 I'm testing SLU-PP orally now and I think its a waste, but some have said that you need very large doses which is then cost prohibitive. So I don't have a good answer for you. At 2mg daily of SLU, I don't think I notice a thing. However, it is also supposed to help burn fat, but I don't have much fat to burn so I can't really help there either.

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          @gym.rat basicly what i heard from my only pep friend. they vehemently hate slu lol

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            @gym.rat basicly what i heard from my only pep friend. they vehemently hate slu lol

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            @quicksilver80 I've got some 50 capsules left and I'll report back if anything changes. I wanted to try it and see if it did anything for me, but as of now I just don't see it. Maybe when I go for a run later I'll get a benefit from it. Can't say it has had any effect on my weight lifting routine.

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              @quicksilver80 I've got some 50 capsules left and I'll report back if anything changes. I wanted to try it and see if it did anything for me, but as of now I just don't see it. Maybe when I go for a run later I'll get a benefit from it. Can't say it has had any effect on my weight lifting routine.

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              @gym.rat i looked at medical journals for aod and adjusted my dose against the normal dosage instructions. and my testing instantly started working again. so. worse case you could double up and see if anything happens. as long as its within normal dosages. think people took as high as 54 mg of aod in testing. so my 1mg should be fine for example. haha

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                @gym.rat i looked at medical journals for aod and adjusted my dose against the normal dosage instructions. and my testing instantly started working again. so. worse case you could double up and see if anything happens. as long as its within normal dosages. think people took as high as 54 mg of aod in testing. so my 1mg should be fine for example. haha

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                @quicksilver80 Are we talking about the same thing? You mentioned AOD, but I was referring to SLU-PP. Did we accidentally cross streams?

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                  @iMemphis18 said in Mots-c and SS-31:

                  @Commander out of curiosity, I don't disagree that its so much faster, but I feel like its a bit of a waste for certain peptides right?

                  For example, Tesamorelin, 10 MG, with 1ML Bac water, i do 2mg -- which is 20 units. After about 4-5 days, i need to refill again, swap vials etc.

                  or.... do people combine for example, 3 vials of Tesa, 10mg into the injection pen vial? This will def make each 3ML pen vial last longer. I am just curious on your thoughts. Been debating on $$ vs time saved. Especially since we need to buy the separate needle, then the 3 ML vial to go with the pen.

                  I put 3 vials of 10mg Tesa in the pen cart. That is how you save time.

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                  @Commander Perfect! That's exactly what I was hoping to hear haha. Thank you so much

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                    @quicksilver80 Are we talking about the same thing? You mentioned AOD, but I was referring to SLU-PP. Did we accidentally cross streams?

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                    @gym.rat i was giving examples. similar idea different chems. like this is what happens with aod. maybe its similar. if you look into effective dose of slu and adjust your dose with what caps you have left.

                    https://ujpronline.com/index.php/journal/article/view/1355/1932

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                      @gym.rat i was giving examples. similar idea different chems. like this is what happens with aod. maybe its similar. if you look into effective dose of slu and adjust your dose with what caps you have left.

                      https://ujpronline.com/index.php/journal/article/view/1355/1932

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                      Gotcha. I was confused as I don't know anything about AOD.

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