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Mots-c and SS-31

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    nosaj
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    Looking for opinions on how necessary it is to run SS-31 before Mots-c. Ready to add Mots to my stack tomorrow and second guessing myself with all the talk about SS-31. Would it hurt to try the Mots first? I have a generally low carb diet and have intermittent fasted for years. Already have the Mots and adding to CJC/Ipa, Reta
    Thanks guys

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      Im no doctor, but, reta revs up your metabolism and puts working stress on mitochondria. It seems like you might want your mitochondria in good shape in order to get the most out of your reta. So, fixing with SS-31 first, then MOTS-c to create more mitochondria and streamline the effectiveness of them would create less reactive oxygen species and allow reta to do all the good it can do. With how much copper is needed in the creation of ATP, it might be good to supplement with GHK-Cu. Then there is the question of NAD+ or niacin as well. That's getting to be a lot of shots though.

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        Agreed. Trying to limit the number of shots since it's my first go with peps and trying to assess effectiveness, but it is tempting to run them all

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          Man....i took 9 needles today.

          "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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            Man, I thought 5 was a lot!

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              9 needles?....in a day? FML. I struggle just taking one!!!!

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                Isn’t it nad + that helps with mitochondria repair?

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                  im at 3 a day plus another on top on sunday. and tbh after these cycles of aod and ss31. my capybara is going to streamline probably. gotta take a break. probably start mots and some sort of growth hormone secretagogue to keep up with more gym/work balancing.

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                    9 needles?....in a day? FML. I struggle just taking one!!!!

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                    @gym.rat
                    I'm at 8 today:
                    Pre-workout: Mots & AOD
                    Post workout; CJC[No Dac]+ Ipam
                    Afternoon: 2nd CJC+
                    Bedtime: Last CJC+, Pine and 2 Ghks

                    and it's not even a NAD+ day.

                    I would had bought stock in .3 syringes at the beginning of this hobby had I known I'd be going through so many.

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                      Commander
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                      I take at least 4 a day. Now I am going to add SS-31 in.

                      Mots-C
                      NAD+
                      KLOW
                      Tesa/Ipa
                      Reta 2/weekly
                      MT2 3/weekly
                      This would not be possible if it wasn’t for the Pens.
                      Anyone not using Pens, I suggest you go over to the store section on here and buy at least 4 pens. If you only buy one pen, you will be back for more. So save on the shipping and just buy 4 from the start, it will save you money in the long run…

                      Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                        Im at:
                        AM:
                        Reta
                        NA Selank/Semax (helps fight the GLP-1 blues)
                        GHK-Cu

                        PM (as needed):
                        BPC-157
                        TB-500

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                          @gym.rat
                          I'm at 8 today:
                          Pre-workout: Mots & AOD
                          Post workout; CJC[No Dac]+ Ipam
                          Afternoon: 2nd CJC+
                          Bedtime: Last CJC+, Pine and 2 Ghks

                          and it's not even a NAD+ day.

                          I would had bought stock in .3 syringes at the beginning of this hobby had I known I'd be going through so many.

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                          How do you not run out of real estate? I feel like my abdomen has been used up, so I'm on my outer thigh and thats not a great place for me as I experience welts / soreness. Living by myself I can't do back of the arms, glutes, back....

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                            im at 3 a day plus another on top on sunday. and tbh after these cycles of aod and ss31. my capybara is going to streamline probably. gotta take a break. probably start mots and some sort of growth hormone secretagogue to keep up with more gym/work balancing.

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                            @quicksilver80 Does the SS-31 burn or sting at all?

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                              @quicksilver80 Does the SS-31 burn or sting at all?

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                              @gym.rat my ts got a little red mosquito bite and said it felt a little itchy but goes away for him in like less than a half hour. mileage may vary

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                                I'm finishing a cycle of 5-Amino-1MQ, then going into SS-31 for a two weeks before adding MOTS-C.

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                                  @commander , how long have you been doing Mt-2 three times per week? I did MT-1 for 10 days straight and I got the best tan! It is dark and such a nice color. It's been 3 weeks and I have hardly lost any of it and I haven't pinned it since.

                                  I currently take two: GHK-cu twice daily and TA-1 twice weekly. I will cycle MOTS-c again in a few weeks.

                                  My hubby is taking Reta twice weekly and Wolverine daily.

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                                    Looking for opinions on how necessary it is to run SS-31 before Mots-c. Ready to add Mots to my stack tomorrow and second guessing myself with all the talk about SS-31. Would it hurt to try the Mots first? I have a generally low carb diet and have intermittent fasted for years. Already have the Mots and adding to CJC/Ipa, Reta
                                    Thanks guys

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                                    @nosaj said in Mots-c and SS-31:

                                    Looking for opinions on how necessary it is to run SS-31 before Mots-c. Ready to add Mots to my stack tomorrow and second guessing myself with all the talk about SS-31. Would it hurt to try the Mots first? I have a generally low carb diet and have intermittent fasted for years. Already have the Mots and adding to CJC/Ipa, Reta
                                    Thanks guys

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                                      Not sure, but I ran MOTS-c for almost 12 weeks and I have never run SS-31.

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                                        ResearchCat
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                                        If you don’t have significant metabolism dysfunction, you probably don’t need SS-31 beforehand.

                                        Every day that I wake up is further evidence of my immortality.

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                                          If you don’t have significant metabolism dysfunction, you probably don’t need SS-31 beforehand.

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                                          @ResearchCat the way i see it is if alot of us were heavy to begin with. its not like our metabolism was doing good in the first place. im not seeing any serious side effects. worth a try.

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