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  • M MikeMiranda

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    @MikeMiranda yeah those little ampules are good in a pinch. i dont like how they get exposed to open air.

    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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      Anyone got the dimensions of the Genetek 30mL vials?

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        I saw someone mention they pierced those plastic ampules with their syringe to extract it. Seems like it would work. I haven't tried them yet since I bought too much hospira, lol.

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          Anyone got the dimensions of the Genetek 30mL vials?

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          @WowwyZowwy said:

          Anyone got the dimensions of the Genetek 30mL vials?

          The post said they are like Hospira but 1mm wider...

          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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            @WowwyZowwy said:

            Anyone got the dimensions of the Genetek 30mL vials?

            The post said they are like Hospira but 1mm wider...

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            @Commander I saw that. Looking for height too!

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              Why would I go through the trouble of getting it and not knowing if that batch is good when Hospira is only $12
              Hospira is easy to get. Medex, click add to cart, pay with credit card, ships the next day… this other brand is not that easy. I would only buy their 30 ml vials anyway, definitely not their Ampols. 10ml, and throwing the rest out because I didn’t need it. Some are transferring it to a 10ml vials, but lets think about that for a minute. Now you have to buy sterile vials (and hope they are actually sterile), transfer it over.
              At $12 a bottle for Hosipa, is it even worth it? What could you save, even if you saved $6, is that worth it? That is less than 1 starbucks coffee and it does add more risk.
              Everyone is buying filters and worried about test results that come back at 97%. So why would you take a chance over $3 - $6? Doesn’t make sense to me. And if it is just to boycott Pfizer, whoever wants to fall on that sword can, not worth it to me.

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              @Commander the math just doesn't math, Commander.
              Genetek is USP for injection use. It's every bit as safe and consistent as Hospira. More so, considering that Hospira had recent documented cases of Bac that didn't test well.
              There are resellers of Genetek that you can click add to cart then checkout with a credit card or PayPal, etc.., if you don't want to deal with buying from India. At the resellers it's still a fraction of the price of Hospira.
              Don't like the hassle of the ampoule? What hassle? Throwing it away afterward?
              Hospira is your preference. I respect that. No need to try to sell the argument that there's any reason to use Hospira beside your preference, though. It doesn't hold (Bac) water.

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                @MikeMiranda yeah those little ampules are good in a pinch. i dont like how they get exposed to open air.

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                @Randy totally shooting myself in the foot here, but I've watched you push a syringe full of room air into your vial of Bac water before drawing it out for recon. Didn't seem to concern you much, then.

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                • RandyR Randy

                  @stevepep I sent him money yesterday. @commander lemme make sure my boy Rakesh delivers and I'll make him famous on here. He has other fun stuff we aren't talking about on here too. india mart is wild.

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                  @Randy oh shit. Are you guys just discovering the joys of Indiamart? Great source for a lot of Rx meds. Great source for Test for TRT. Glutathione, pens, oils (if you're into that crap)....

                  You're late to the party, though. Shipping is locked down for a lot of the vendors on there and will be locked down for the rest of them starting the 21st. The date coincides with the China shipping lockdown, strangely enough.

                  It happens periodically. Customs requirements change and it takes them a bit to adjust. The current situation is supposed to be a pretty major shift in policy, though. Might be a while before they nail down some triangular shipping routes. Shipping will probably double, also.

                  Let me know if you need more vendor sources.

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                  • M MikeMiranda

                    @Randy said:

                    @stevepep I sent him money yesterday.

                    what form of crypto/payment do they accept

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                    @MikeMiranda most of them want Indian Rupees via Wise or Revolut. It's about one level of difficulty above PayPal or Zelle, but much simpler than using crypto.

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                      @MikeMiranda most of them want Indian Rupees via Wise or Revolut. It's about one level of difficulty above PayPal or Zelle, but much simpler than using crypto.

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                      @BBLDarkStar said:

                      @MikeMiranda most of them want Indian Rupees via Wise or Revolut. It's about one level of difficulty above PayPal or Zelle, but much simpler than using crypto.

                      I think crypto is easy I use phantom wallet for everything

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                        I still don’t get it. Hospira is $15 a bottle. At best price for Genetek $30ml I think I saw was $6.
                        Again the same people crying about the small amount of money are the same people insisting that Nexaph is the best place to buy peptides because of there Jano COAs. And Nexalh is 3 times the money as Uther, and all his stuff has Jano COAs with M&P, Heavy Metal and Endo…
                        I am just pointing out crying about a couple of dollars over bac water is ridiculous…..

                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                          I still don’t get it. Hospira is $15 a bottle. At best price for Genetek $30ml I think I saw was $6.
                          Again the same people crying about the small amount of money are the same people insisting that Nexaph is the best place to buy peptides because of there Jano COAs. And Nexalh is 3 times the money as Uther, and all his stuff has Jano COAs with M&P, Heavy Metal and Endo…
                          I am just pointing out crying about a couple of dollars over bac water is ridiculous…..

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                          @Commander I am starting to think you’re 401K has a bunch of Pfizer stock in it. Lol.

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                            @BBLDarkStar said:

                            @MikeMiranda most of them want Indian Rupees via Wise or Revolut. It's about one level of difficulty above PayPal or Zelle, but much simpler than using crypto.

                            I think crypto is easy I use phantom wallet for everything

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                            @MikeMiranda I agree. I was trying to describe the level of difficulty for those that are less comfortable using alternative methods of payment.

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                              This is the flyer that several of the Indiamart vendors have shared over the last couple weeks.

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                                @Commander I am starting to think you’re 401K has a bunch of Pfizer stock in it. Lol.

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                                @Stevepep
                                Nope, I just don’t understand the mentality of trying to save at best $10 but paying $458 for reta 20mg from Nexaph instead of $140 from Uther with the same COA’s from Jano… Uther has all three test from Jano on all his products, nexaph has them on some of their products.
                                So if we are using the same mentality as we will buy the cheaper one (even if it is only a couple dollars less) than why is anyone buying from Nexaph at all?
                                And if we are saying, well if is easier to buy from nexaph, than why are we not buying the Hospira over stuff from indianmart. It way easier to go to medex and buy a bottle of Hospira than buying from indianmart. There are also a bunch of vendors that sell Hospira by the bottle.
                                So it just doesn’t make sense. It is either one or the other. What is really happening is people are cutting their noses off to spite their face. “We hate evil Phizer, so we will jump through hoops not to buy their products”
                                There is simply no way around the facts. The Cost savings everyone is claiming are the hail mary are really nothing…. And again those same people are the ones paying $458 for reta 20 from Nexaph instead of under $150 for the same exact thing..

                                Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                  @MikeMiranda most of them want Indian Rupees via Wise or Revolut. It's about one level of difficulty above PayPal or Zelle, but much simpler than using crypto.

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                                  @BBLDarkStar Just show them the graph of how much the Rupee has devalued in comparison to USD and tell them to setup Crypto or USD accounts. The 100 Rupees today are going to be only 75 Rupees within a few months. This is a fact not a joke. Been following Indian market and economy for a while now.

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                                    @Stevepep
                                    Nope, I just don’t understand the mentality of trying to save at best $10 but paying $458 for reta 20mg from Nexaph instead of $140 from Uther with the same COA’s from Jano… Uther has all three test from Jano on all his products, nexaph has them on some of their products.
                                    So if we are using the same mentality as we will buy the cheaper one (even if it is only a couple dollars less) than why is anyone buying from Nexaph at all?
                                    And if we are saying, well if is easier to buy from nexaph, than why are we not buying the Hospira over stuff from indianmart. It way easier to go to medex and buy a bottle of Hospira than buying from indianmart. There are also a bunch of vendors that sell Hospira by the bottle.
                                    So it just doesn’t make sense. It is either one or the other. What is really happening is people are cutting their noses off to spite their face. “We hate evil Phizer, so we will jump through hoops not to buy their products”
                                    There is simply no way around the facts. The Cost savings everyone is claiming are the hail mary are really nothing…. And again those same people are the ones paying $458 for reta 20 from Nexaph instead of under $150 for the same exact thing..

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                                    @Commander it’s kind of simple it’s the exact same thing for less there is nothing else to say. It’s pretty simple USPvUSP It’s like saying a generic medication is a bad choice it’s the exact same thing. You like Hospira cool so does Pfizer and they love you for being so loyal. Hey i appreciate someone being so loyal to a brand no matter how much they manipulate the price

                                    By the way I could say you buy grey to save money but then pay top dollar to pharma even though the very same thing is available for less. Make it make sense please

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                                      @BBLDarkStar Just show them the graph of how much the Rupee has devalued in comparison to USD and tell them to setup Crypto or USD accounts. The 100 Rupees today are going to be only 75 Rupees within a few months. This is a fact not a joke. Been following Indian market and economy for a while now.

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                                      @pep_researcher Lol. I am not prepared to have that conversation with them. I don't know why anybody in a country with such a volatile economy would not take advantage of how easy it is to stash money in a stable coin these days. They could take crypto instead of INR and make money on dodging depreciation/inflation even if they only held it for an extra couple days during each transaction. Their customers would be happy not to pay the commission that Wise takes, too.

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                                        @Commander it’s kind of simple it’s the exact same thing for less there is nothing else to say. It’s pretty simple USPvUSP It’s like saying a generic medication is a bad choice it’s the exact same thing. You like Hospira cool so does Pfizer and they love you for being so loyal. Hey i appreciate someone being so loyal to a brand no matter how much they manipulate the price

                                        By the way I could say you buy grey to save money but then pay top dollar to pharma even though the very same thing is available for less. Make it make sense please

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                                        @Stevepep said:

                                        @Commander it’s kind of simple it’s the exact same thing for less there is nothing else to say. It’s pretty simple USPvUSP It’s like saying a generic medication is a bad choice it’s the exact same thing. You like Hospira cool so does Pfizer and they love you for being so loyal. Hey i appreciate someone being so loyal to a brand no matter how much they manipulate the price

                                        By the way I could say you buy grey to save money but then pay top dollar to pharma even though the very same thing is available for less. Make it make sense please

                                        Ahh, but you would be wrong. I haven’t bought BAC since this has been available (and it is still not as easy as going to a website and clicking add to cart and paying with my Credit card) the only reason we buy grey and deal with the hassle of cyrto is because it is a HUGE price difference. If Nexpha was $120 a kit for Reta 20mg, I would have bought the 20 kits from them instead of from grey. But after shipping I paid $77 a kit for it, even when you factor in the 2 or 3 labs I sent it to for testing, it still only came out to $95 a kit - but I had to pay with cryto. Nexpha is $458 a kit for Reta 20mg

                                        So you are comparing apples to oranges… not even close my friend

                                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                          @Stevepep said:

                                          @Commander it’s kind of simple it’s the exact same thing for less there is nothing else to say. It’s pretty simple USPvUSP It’s like saying a generic medication is a bad choice it’s the exact same thing. You like Hospira cool so does Pfizer and they love you for being so loyal. Hey i appreciate someone being so loyal to a brand no matter how much they manipulate the price

                                          By the way I could say you buy grey to save money but then pay top dollar to pharma even though the very same thing is available for less. Make it make sense please

                                          Ahh, but you would be wrong. I haven’t bought BAC since this has been available (and it is still not as easy as going to a website and clicking add to cart and paying with my Credit card) the only reason we buy grey and deal with the hassle of cyrto is because it is a HUGE price difference. If Nexpha was $120 a kit for Reta 20mg, I would have bought the 20 kits from them instead of from grey. But after shipping I paid $77 a kit for it, even when you factor in the 2 or 3 labs I sent it to for testing, it still only came out to $95 a kit - but I had to pay with cryto. Nexpha is $458 a kit for Reta 20mg

                                          So you are comparing apples to oranges… not even close my friend

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                                          @Commander come on my friend if grey was the same price as Nexaph you would buy from Nexaph every time. Not even a question , we are talking about buying the very same thing for less

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