@goldengoosepeptides well if you're going to voice such an opposing opinion perhaps you could elaborate? Especially since this is your first time posting and no one knows you from Adam here. Just a suggestion.

@ResearchCat MEGAPEN!

@documentswitch they probably split the batches between the companies or they may have vials tested from the same batch under both company names. We truly don't know but the fact that they use ILS is enough for me to not use either. Not sure why you'd be upset that they choose to market their products to different types of clients, they almost always run the same deals with the same prices on both pages.

Yeah my first purchase with them was also my last due to ILS

@FatKatz use a reconstitution calculator and use the average of the tested batch

@documentswitch because they are the same with different marketing tactics.

“you do you boo boo ;)”. --- Love this response

@Camp-run-a-muck If you are trying to post a review with proof of purchase you have to do it from the vendor directory.

@michellefouch I don't think they can tell you how to reconstitute though - because it's not sold for human or animal use it would be a liability if they told you how to research a research item. Most of them are steering away from giving anything other than COA and pricing because of this.

Why does it matter what the suppliers AI bot says? It's all research just buy it from your trusted supplier and do your research.

So I started last week, I wish I pushed it off a week or two because I started around the same time as an upper respiratory infection. I'm not sure if it's viral but I have developed strange skin reactions on my elbows and a couple of spots on my thighs. I inject the Nad+ and my reta in my stomach so it's not ISR related. I just don't know if it's Nad+ or whatever illness I'm fighting off. I am monitoring it and documenting the changes. Has anyone had a similar experience from Nad?

Congrats @hunt_ak!

@dontfyourlife yeah I realize the red flags. I was looking for the deeper research/article Randy provided the link to.

He saw my screen up today with nexaph looking at the presale and that reminded him to send the link for his vendor to his boss and I asked the question, who are you buying from and who are they testing with? Then it was 5 so I split.

@pep_researcher I dont remember who brought it up first. Likely me because I've developed a bit of an obsession/passion for this. But I'm grateful my boss understands some of the issues I've experienced with side effects.

@Randy thank you this is what I want. Im sending this to him tomorrow. He more or less called me a snob because I scoffed at his choice of vendor and that the lab they used wasn't known to me.

Does anyone have any information on legitimacy of this lab. Found out my boss is using tirz and his vendor solely uses Horizon for testing.
The COA lacks any identifiers to match to the vials. No lot numbers or crimp/cap colors and no pictures.

@NoWood1154 just ignoring the part where people got burned by this "GBK"? ooof - your choice, not a good one, but still yours.

@MyelinMan maybe because it's a growing site and things like this can easily get overlooked, especially since most of us are USA based. But maybe @randy can fix it?

@StudzPeptides It is always about planning. But regardless you've got a fan with @mikebricker so don't worry about my opinion. I've already decided against you.

@StudzPeptides I say cheap because you lack patience and planning - you went with a faster option to turn a profit quicker. And your profit margins are still padded so you can afford to test thoroughly and as stated people know that good quality testing takes time and costs money. Those that understand that, understand pricing trickles down. We're not idiots.
You came here and asked what we wanted, seemed like you genuinely card but you decided to go the cheap/fast route.