Zepbound
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I took the brand-name version for about 6 months, and my insurance never covered it. It worked, but for the price of one month of the 7.5 mg brand-name, I can get a 30 mg kit from Nexaph that lasts me 10 months at the same dosage. If my math is right, that’s about a $4K difference, and I can’t tell any difference in effectiveness.
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So the wife has been on Zepbound paying $400 a month. I'm trying to push her away from that by doing her own research. Other than cost, what advice would anyone give to convince her that just might be a better option. I've researched Reta with success but that somehow doesn't move the needle for her. I think she is afraid that it won't work. I just hate that she is going thru them. Anyway any suggestions, advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
@afkar7 Brand-name makes sense ONLY and ONLY if you have insurance coverage and the math of meeting your deductible or co-pays/coinsurance over an year turns out to be cheaper than buying compounded or "DIY research".
Otherwise why do you want to enrich L company share holders' pockets and dividends? If you are a share holder, do the complete math of whether your dividend actually turns out to be higher than your L Direct cost. Haha
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I would just echo what others have said. I also started with compounded tirz and am now mixing up a Nexaph batch. My bride is still using compounded (mine actually) but will go to Nexaph in another month. I think that if she is comfortable researching KLOW, maybe you need to demonstrate that the Tirz is legit. (And for the love of God make sure you get the recon and dosing right.). Who knows? You might even realize Tirz is THE stuff.
There is a ton of bad/scary info out there on shady Chinese peptides and bad dosing can make you sick. So I think the disconnect with respect to being comfortable researching gray market tirz vs other stuff is a matter of trust and not wanting to lose all that progress.
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$248.00 for 10/20mg bottles from Nexaph, not sure what her dose is but do the math for her and show her how long this would last. https://nexaph.com/product/nxp-2p-10-vials-kit/
its a no brainer.
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Like others, I went down the same road. Started out with the name brand, then a medical professional told me they could get it from a compounding pharmacy for $280 a month. Better than $1100 a month from the name brand, so I thought that was great. I had never heard of a compounding pharmacy so I started looking into it, which led me down the telehealth route. I thought this is great. It's doable. After getting it down to about $47 a month and another $1K out of pocket, that research led me to down the rabbit hole of other options like Nexaph. I just ordered from Nexaph but have yet to use those vials because I had already obtained a stockpile that will go bad before this recent order. At least it's lyophilized so I can freeze it for when I'm ready. I'm going to try the pube peptide dealer next go around to see if I can get a little more backup for the freezer. I have my hydrapeak ready. I'm just waiting on my order from the Peptide Critic store so I can slap their sticker on it.
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At the end of the day, when you are buying from a telehealth provider sourcing from a compounding pharmacy, (imo) you are putting faith in the system. Last time I had a problem with my telehealth provider(new compounding pharmacy, shipment got delayed 2 weeks, they refused to ship replacement), it took me over two week for the telehealth company to agree to send a replacement. And I have never seen a COA from them, and these extended BUD’s saying my Tirz is good over a year past its expiry, … well. On the one hand, I have never had a problem with them. On the other hand, I’m 90-100 vials(from 8 different sources) down in the past year and haven’t had a problem with them either. Heck, I haven’t even found a pube in my dihexa. I feel left out.
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Wanted to add quickly — but except Nexaph, the general US resellers of lyophilized tirzepatide even those with bulk pricing are actually more expensive now than telehealths selling compounded T.
I did that price point comparison and was surprised that per mg prices of T of many US resellers are actually HIGHER than popular telehealths discussed on Reddit.
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Wanted to add quickly — but except Nexaph, the general US resellers of lyophilized tirzepatide even those with bulk pricing are actually more expensive now than telehealths selling compounded T.
I did that price point comparison and was surprised that per mg prices of T of many US resellers are actually HIGHER than popular telehealths discussed on Reddit.
@pep_researcher even more, if you up the dose of Lilly Direct Zepbound to 15 mg vials, the cost of each vial is $112.50, which is comparable to for example to PeptideCrafters $105 for the same dose. Zepbound is in liquid form but the current batch expiration date is in 2028.
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From my perspective, I go through a Telehealth company to get compounded Tirzepatide from a 503a pharmacy. The only reason is not only is my PCP okay with it due to insurance not covering it, but I also pretty much have 24/7 access to my Telehealth provider and a Nutritionist. And for that kind of access, I'm paying $278 a month. That's $79/month membership and $199/month for the medicine. But I know for a fact my PCP would crap a brick if he knew I was getting Tirzepatide from some website off the internet.
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So the wife has been on Zepbound paying $400 a month. I'm trying to push her away from that by doing her own research. Other than cost, what advice would anyone give to convince her that just might be a better option. I've researched Reta with success but that somehow doesn't move the needle for her. I think she is afraid that it won't work. I just hate that she is going thru them. Anyway any suggestions, advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
@afkar7 If she is on Medicare and has a cooperative physician, or, can find one, on July 1, Eli Lilly will begin offering Semi and Tirz to those who qualify for $50 mo. I'm going for it myself (with a booster of my own, of course).
Here's the info:
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coverage/prescription-drug-coverage/medicare-glp-1-bridgeProud to be on a gubmint watch list
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@afkar7 If she is on Medicare and has a cooperative physician, or, can find one, on July 1, Eli Lilly will begin offering Semi and Tirz to those who qualify for $50 mo. I'm going for it myself (with a booster of my own, of course).
Here's the info:
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coverage/prescription-drug-coverage/medicare-glp-1-bridge -
@pep_researcher even more, if you up the dose of Lilly Direct Zepbound to 15 mg vials, the cost of each vial is $112.50, which is comparable to for example to PeptideCrafters $105 for the same dose. Zepbound is in liquid form but the current batch expiration date is in 2028.
@vpeptides Yeah and if you have insurance coverage will that L savings card, it's $25 for 60mg which no compounder or RUO can beat
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@afkar7 If she is on Medicare and has a cooperative physician, or, can find one, on July 1, Eli Lilly will begin offering Semi and Tirz to those who qualify for $50 mo. I'm going for it myself (with a booster of my own, of course).
Here's the info:
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coverage/prescription-drug-coverage/medicare-glp-1-bridge@Eleanor Exactly I commented the same and then saw your message.
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From my perspective, I go through a Telehealth company to get compounded Tirzepatide from a 503a pharmacy. The only reason is not only is my PCP okay with it due to insurance not covering it, but I also pretty much have 24/7 access to my Telehealth provider and a Nutritionist. And for that kind of access, I'm paying $278 a month. That's $79/month membership and $199/month for the medicine. But I know for a fact my PCP would crap a brick if he knew I was getting Tirzepatide from some website off the internet.
@mrjoshua44 Ignorant yet arrogant PCPs blocking access is another problem, in addition to insurance, PBM, big pharma together extorting and f*** people that added to the RUO boom and public hatred for conventional routes of getting care.
I approached my PCP two years ago for GLP-1 treatment. I was never morbidly obese or diabetic or heart patient, due to my own lifestyle interventions, no thanks to the medical establishment. But I was slowly creeping in that direction with age.
PCP refused to even discuss saying "Insurance won't approve". WTF??? Are they working to provide care for me or insurance company?
I started with a telehealth last year and soon found the RUO wonderland.
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$248.00 for 10/20mg bottles from Nexaph, not sure what her dose is but do the math for her and show her how long this would last. https://nexaph.com/product/nxp-2p-10-vials-kit/
its a no brainer.
$248.00 for 10/20mg bottles from Nexaph, not sure what her dose is but do the math for her and show her how long this would last. https://nexaph.com/product/nxp-2p-10-vials-kit/
its a no brainer.
She's at a 12.5mg. I'm trying to tell her this. I did the math for her to show how much she would be saving. I mean damn, it's $4,800 a year. It should be a no brainer.
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@afkar7 Dang, well, just in case, I wanted you to know.
@randy @pep_researcher Oh yeah, no brainer indeed. I posted a video about it in one of your sections. Real good info. Fortunately, my Dr. will definitely go for it. The only thing in the way is her inept office staff. They don't know shitte from shinola. I'll need heavy duty peps while dealing with them. The Plan will probably want to start me on the usual 2.5 dose; I won't argue, I'll just 'supplement' until I get the dose I want; then, I'll probably supplement some more with other peps. My friend who could afford the Eli Lilly and tried same dose of mine says Lilly's is stronger at the same dose. I can believe it. -
One more question. Has anyone researched NXP-2Pfrom Nexaph and what is your opinion? Her big concern is it won't work as well. But a 10 pack would cover 11 months at a 10th of the current cost.
One more question. Has anyone researched NXP-2Pfrom Nexaph and what is your opinion? Her big concern is it won't work as well. But a 10 pack would cover 11 months at a 10th of the current cost.
Unless someone has taken the Lilly version, they probably can't make the comparison. Your wife would probably have to take a bit more, according to my friend who's done both.
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I have been using NXP-2P from Nexaph (30 mg) since early this year, around January or February. Before that, I used compounded Tirzepatide for 3 months through a telehealth provider, and the name-brand version before that. I don’t notice a nickel’s worth of difference between any of them.
According to Glapp, I’ve lost about 7 lbs per month since January (yes, it’s a little fast, but I have other medical issues that make the weight loss critical).
Full disclosure, I pin 7.5 mg Tirzepatide from Nexaph on Wednesdays and 5 mg Mazdutide from Southern Aminos on Saturdays. So all of the weight loss is not from the Tirzepatide alone.
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