Zepbound
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Wanted to add quickly — but except Nexaph, the general US resellers of lyophilized tirzepatide even those with bulk pricing are actually more expensive now than telehealths selling compounded T.
I did that price point comparison and was surprised that per mg prices of T of many US resellers are actually HIGHER than popular telehealths discussed on Reddit.
@pep_researcher even more, if you up the dose of Lilly Direct Zepbound to 15 mg vials, the cost of each vial is $112.50, which is comparable to for example to PeptideCrafters $105 for the same dose. Zepbound is in liquid form but the current batch expiration date is in 2028.
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From my perspective, I go through a Telehealth company to get compounded Tirzepatide from a 503a pharmacy. The only reason is not only is my PCP okay with it due to insurance not covering it, but I also pretty much have 24/7 access to my Telehealth provider and a Nutritionist. And for that kind of access, I'm paying $278 a month. That's $79/month membership and $199/month for the medicine. But I know for a fact my PCP would crap a brick if he knew I was getting Tirzepatide from some website off the internet.
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So the wife has been on Zepbound paying $400 a month. I'm trying to push her away from that by doing her own research. Other than cost, what advice would anyone give to convince her that just might be a better option. I've researched Reta with success but that somehow doesn't move the needle for her. I think she is afraid that it won't work. I just hate that she is going thru them. Anyway any suggestions, advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
@afkar7 If she is on Medicare and has a cooperative physician, or, can find one, on July 1, Eli Lilly will begin offering Semi and Tirz to those who qualify for $50 mo. I'm going for it myself (with a booster of my own, of course).
Here's the info:
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coverage/prescription-drug-coverage/medicare-glp-1-bridgeProud to be on a gubmint watch list
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@afkar7 If she is on Medicare and has a cooperative physician, or, can find one, on July 1, Eli Lilly will begin offering Semi and Tirz to those who qualify for $50 mo. I'm going for it myself (with a booster of my own, of course).
Here's the info:
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coverage/prescription-drug-coverage/medicare-glp-1-bridge -
@pep_researcher even more, if you up the dose of Lilly Direct Zepbound to 15 mg vials, the cost of each vial is $112.50, which is comparable to for example to PeptideCrafters $105 for the same dose. Zepbound is in liquid form but the current batch expiration date is in 2028.
@vpeptides Yeah and if you have insurance coverage will that L savings card, it's $25 for 60mg which no compounder or RUO can beat
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@afkar7 If she is on Medicare and has a cooperative physician, or, can find one, on July 1, Eli Lilly will begin offering Semi and Tirz to those who qualify for $50 mo. I'm going for it myself (with a booster of my own, of course).
Here's the info:
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coverage/prescription-drug-coverage/medicare-glp-1-bridge@Eleanor Exactly I commented the same and then saw your message.
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From my perspective, I go through a Telehealth company to get compounded Tirzepatide from a 503a pharmacy. The only reason is not only is my PCP okay with it due to insurance not covering it, but I also pretty much have 24/7 access to my Telehealth provider and a Nutritionist. And for that kind of access, I'm paying $278 a month. That's $79/month membership and $199/month for the medicine. But I know for a fact my PCP would crap a brick if he knew I was getting Tirzepatide from some website off the internet.
@mrjoshua44 Ignorant yet arrogant PCPs blocking access is another problem, in addition to insurance, PBM, big pharma together extorting and f*** people that added to the RUO boom and public hatred for conventional routes of getting care.
I approached my PCP two years ago for GLP-1 treatment. I was never morbidly obese or diabetic or heart patient, due to my own lifestyle interventions, no thanks to the medical establishment. But I was slowly creeping in that direction with age.
PCP refused to even discuss saying "Insurance won't approve". WTF??? Are they working to provide care for me or insurance company?
I started with a telehealth last year and soon found the RUO wonderland.
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$248.00 for 10/20mg bottles from Nexaph, not sure what her dose is but do the math for her and show her how long this would last. https://nexaph.com/product/nxp-2p-10-vials-kit/
its a no brainer.
$248.00 for 10/20mg bottles from Nexaph, not sure what her dose is but do the math for her and show her how long this would last. https://nexaph.com/product/nxp-2p-10-vials-kit/
its a no brainer.
She's at a 12.5mg. I'm trying to tell her this. I did the math for her to show how much she would be saving. I mean damn, it's $4,800 a year. It should be a no brainer.
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@afkar7 Dang, well, just in case, I wanted you to know.
@randy @pep_researcher Oh yeah, no brainer indeed. I posted a video about it in one of your sections. Real good info. Fortunately, my Dr. will definitely go for it. The only thing in the way is her inept office staff. They don't know shitte from shinola. I'll need heavy duty peps while dealing with them. The Plan will probably want to start me on the usual 2.5 dose; I won't argue, I'll just 'supplement' until I get the dose I want; then, I'll probably supplement some more with other peps. My friend who could afford the Eli Lilly and tried same dose of mine says Lilly's is stronger at the same dose. I can believe it. -
One more question. Has anyone researched NXP-2Pfrom Nexaph and what is your opinion? Her big concern is it won't work as well. But a 10 pack would cover 11 months at a 10th of the current cost.
One more question. Has anyone researched NXP-2Pfrom Nexaph and what is your opinion? Her big concern is it won't work as well. But a 10 pack would cover 11 months at a 10th of the current cost.
Unless someone has taken the Lilly version, they probably can't make the comparison. Your wife would probably have to take a bit more, according to my friend who's done both.
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I have been using NXP-2P from Nexaph (30 mg) since early this year, around January or February. Before that, I used compounded Tirzepatide for 3 months through a telehealth provider, and the name-brand version before that. I don’t notice a nickel’s worth of difference between any of them.
According to Glapp, I’ve lost about 7 lbs per month since January (yes, it’s a little fast, but I have other medical issues that make the weight loss critical).
Full disclosure, I pin 7.5 mg Tirzepatide from Nexaph on Wednesdays and 5 mg Mazdutide from Southern Aminos on Saturdays. So all of the weight loss is not from the Tirzepatide alone.
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One more question. Has anyone researched NXP-2Pfrom Nexaph and what is your opinion? Her big concern is it won't work as well. But a 10 pack would cover 11 months at a 10th of the current cost.
@afkar7
I have an Rx for Zepbound and used the Brand from Lilly Direct for about 6 months before switching to the NXP-2 a couple of months ago. I’ve noticed no difference whatsoever except I’m no longer shelling out $400 monthly because my health insurance stinks. -
One more question. Has anyone researched NXP-2Pfrom Nexaph and what is your opinion? Her big concern is it won't work as well. But a 10 pack would cover 11 months at a 10th of the current cost.
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@afkar7
I have an Rx for Zepbound and used the Brand from Lilly Direct for about 6 months before switching to the NXP-2 a couple of months ago. I’ve noticed no difference whatsoever except I’m no longer shelling out $400 monthly because my health insurance stinks.@christexer
I second this, exact same experience.
Was on 5mg Zepbound and have been on 5mg NXP-2 with no issues for months now.I'm just waiting for my 10 vials to run out so I can make the switch to
RetaNXP-3. -
One more question. Has anyone researched NXP-2Pfrom Nexaph and what is your opinion? Her big concern is it won't work as well. But a 10 pack would cover 11 months at a 10th of the current cost.
@afkar7 My 2 cents — if you only want GLP-T you are better off going with a telehealth and a compounding pharmacy.
You will get pep from a certified sterile compounding facility. Nexaph only tests net content, purity, and ID. No endotoxin and sterility. Plus you have to get supplies yourself, H BAC water, noodles, wipes etc and recon yourself. Add those costs to your math. Telehealth GLP-T is usually $3-3.5 per mg all inclusive.
RUOs are best for stuff that's hard to access due to the Eff Dee Aa shenanigans or costs.
If tomorrow Eff Dee Aa shuts down all compounded T and pushes you to $500 pm L Direct, by all means go with Nexaph or other vendors.
Just an advice from someone who did in depth cost analysis for GLP-T during the journey.
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@afkar7 My 2 cents — if you only want GLP-T you are better off going with a telehealth and a compounding pharmacy.
You will get pep from a certified sterile compounding facility. Nexaph only tests net content, purity, and ID. No endotoxin and sterility. Plus you have to get supplies yourself, H BAC water, noodles, wipes etc and recon yourself. Add those costs to your math. Telehealth GLP-T is usually $3-3.5 per mg all inclusive.
RUOs are best for stuff that's hard to access due to the Eff Dee Aa shenanigans or costs.
If tomorrow Eff Dee Aa shuts down all compounded T and pushes you to $500 pm L Direct, by all means go with Nexaph or other vendors.
Just an advice from someone who did in depth cost analysis for GLP-T during the journey.
@afkar7 My 2 cents — if you only want GLP-T you are better off going with a telehealth and a compounding pharmacy.
You will get pep from a certified sterile compounding facility. Nexaph only tests net content, purity, and ID. No endotoxin and sterility. Plus you have to get supplies yourself, H BAC water, noodles, wipes etc and recon yourself. Add those costs to your math. Telehealth GLP-T is usually $3-3.5 per mg all inclusive.
RUOs are best for stuff that's hard to access due to the Eff Dee Aa shenanigans or costs.
If tomorrow Eff Dee Aa shuts down all compounded T and pushes you to $500 pm L Direct, by all means go with Nexaph or other vendors.
Just an advice from someone who did in depth cost analysis for GLP-T during the journey.
This is not untrue.
However, there are certain caveats to consider. You have to make sure you know how to work the system. You won't get the $3-3.50 per mg right away. Unless you have a current prescription and are already taking higher doses, you will get started on the lowest doses and have to work your way up. Those $3-$3.50 amounts are usually for those already taking higher doses. Though it's not impossible to get those prices on lower doses, it is a little trickier. If you don't choose the right telehealth, you could be stuck paying $8 (or more) per mg. Ask me how I know
? Also, if you are able to get vials for the higher doses, but currently take lower doses, you have to be comfortable going beyond the 28 day rule and Beyond Use Date (aka BUD, which is kinda like an expiration date). Most of the big 503B pharmacies are out of the game and the ones left have BUD's only up to 6 months. 503A pharmacies are at 90 day BUD's. NOTE: 503B pharmacies are not necessarily better than 503A pharmacies, they just follow different regulations.
If you look into the telehealths look at Pomegranate Health for some of the best prices. However, their system can be clunky. They won't hold your hand through the process. If you are willing to pay a little more for better service, check out Rift, Trillium, or Big Easy Weight Loss.Hope this helps.
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@afkar7 My 2 cents — if you only want GLP-T you are better off going with a telehealth and a compounding pharmacy.
You will get pep from a certified sterile compounding facility. Nexaph only tests net content, purity, and ID. No endotoxin and sterility. Plus you have to get supplies yourself, H BAC water, noodles, wipes etc and recon yourself. Add those costs to your math. Telehealth GLP-T is usually $3-3.5 per mg all inclusive.
RUOs are best for stuff that's hard to access due to the Eff Dee Aa shenanigans or costs.
If tomorrow Eff Dee Aa shuts down all compounded T and pushes you to $500 pm L Direct, by all means go with Nexaph or other vendors.
Just an advice from someone who did in depth cost analysis for GLP-T during the journey.
This is not untrue.
However, there are certain caveats to consider. You have to make sure you know how to work the system. You won't get the $3-3.50 per mg right away. Unless you have a current prescription and are already taking higher doses, you will get started on the lowest doses and have to work your way up. Those $3-$3.50 amounts are usually for those already taking higher doses. Though it's not impossible to get those prices on lower doses, it is a little trickier. If you don't choose the right telehealth, you could be stuck paying $8 (or more) per mg. Ask me how I know
? Also, if you are able to get vials for the higher doses, but currently take lower doses, you have to be comfortable going beyond the 28 day rule and Beyond Use Date (aka BUD, which is kinda like an expiration date). Most of the big 503B pharmacies are out of the game and the ones left have BUD's only up to 6 months. 503A pharmacies are at 90 day BUD's. NOTE: 503B pharmacies are not necessarily better than 503A pharmacies, they just follow different regulations.
If you look into the telehealths look at Pomegranate Health for some of the best prices. However, their system can be clunky. They won't hold your hand through the process. If you are willing to pay a little more for better service, check out Rift, Trillium, or Big Easy Weight Loss.Hope this helps.
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