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    I have been using Tesa for 4 months straight now. No issues whatsoever. No cloudiness, no gelling, nothing. I take 1.5mg to 2mg every night. My mixed Tesa is stored in the fridge same as all the rest. I mix a 30mg cart (30mg Tesa in 3ml bac), that cart lasts me 15 to 20 days. Tesa makes me sleepy… and it doesn’t loose that effectiveness at all for the whole cart. So take it for what it is worth.
    Additionally, I have definitely lost a decent amount of visceral fat on it. I had a dexa scan just before starting it, my stomach protruded a lot (Like a Navy Chief 🤣). Now it doesn’t at all. I am due for another dexa scan soon to see the actual hard numbers. I don’t use those shit scales because they are not accurate. Take it for what it is worth.

    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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    • C Commander

      I have been using Tesa for 4 months straight now. No issues whatsoever. No cloudiness, no gelling, nothing. I take 1.5mg to 2mg every night. My mixed Tesa is stored in the fridge same as all the rest. I mix a 30mg cart (30mg Tesa in 3ml bac), that cart lasts me 15 to 20 days. Tesa makes me sleepy… and it doesn’t loose that effectiveness at all for the whole cart. So take it for what it is worth.
      Additionally, I have definitely lost a decent amount of visceral fat on it. I had a dexa scan just before starting it, my stomach protruded a lot (Like a Navy Chief 🤣). Now it doesn’t at all. I am due for another dexa scan soon to see the actual hard numbers. I don’t use those shit scales because they are not accurate. Take it for what it is worth.

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      Stevepep
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      @Commander Commander not sure if you tried the Hume. I just got a Dexa scan, and it's pretty much the same as the Hume that was nice to see. I need to try Tesa for my handles, I swear its bone on those sides they will not away.

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        @Commander Commander not sure if you tried the Hume. I just got a Dexa scan, and it's pretty much the same as the Hume that was nice to see. I need to try Tesa for my handles, I swear its bone on those sides they will not away.

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        @Stevepep
        The Hume is the scale I was talking about. I bought it. Went for a dexa scan, came home from the scan and got on the Hume, more than 50% off..

        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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          I have been using Tesa for 4 months straight now. No issues whatsoever. No cloudiness, no gelling, nothing. I take 1.5mg to 2mg every night. My mixed Tesa is stored in the fridge same as all the rest. I mix a 30mg cart (30mg Tesa in 3ml bac), that cart lasts me 15 to 20 days. Tesa makes me sleepy… and it doesn’t loose that effectiveness at all for the whole cart. So take it for what it is worth.
          Additionally, I have definitely lost a decent amount of visceral fat on it. I had a dexa scan just before starting it, my stomach protruded a lot (Like a Navy Chief 🤣). Now it doesn’t at all. I am due for another dexa scan soon to see the actual hard numbers. I don’t use those shit scales because they are not accurate. Take it for what it is worth.

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          @Commander said:

          I have been using Tesa for 4 months straight now. No issues whatsoever. No cloudiness, no gelling, nothing. I take 1.5mg to 2mg every night. My mixed Tesa is stored in the fridge same as all the rest. I mix a 30mg cart (30mg Tesa in 3ml bac), that cart lasts me 15 to 20 days. Tesa makes me sleepy… and it doesn’t loose that effectiveness at all for the whole cart. So take it for what it is worth.
          Additionally, I have definitely lost a decent amount of visceral fat on it. I had a dexa scan just before starting it, my stomach protruded a lot (Like a Navy Chief 🤣). Now it doesn’t at all. I am due for another dexa scan soon to see the actual hard numbers. I don’t use those shit scales because they are not accurate. Take it for what it is worth.

          This is great info, thanks for posting. 20 days on fridged Tesa and no issues with continued effectiveness.

          How old is your rat?

          What does his cycle look like (or will look like?) You mentioned 4 months into it, what do you have planned for this moving forward?

          Do you have any IGF-1 lab numbers?

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            I have been using Tesa for 4 months straight now. No issues whatsoever. No cloudiness, no gelling, nothing. I take 1.5mg to 2mg every night. My mixed Tesa is stored in the fridge same as all the rest. I mix a 30mg cart (30mg Tesa in 3ml bac), that cart lasts me 15 to 20 days. Tesa makes me sleepy… and it doesn’t loose that effectiveness at all for the whole cart. So take it for what it is worth.
            Additionally, I have definitely lost a decent amount of visceral fat on it. I had a dexa scan just before starting it, my stomach protruded a lot (Like a Navy Chief 🤣). Now it doesn’t at all. I am due for another dexa scan soon to see the actual hard numbers. I don’t use those shit scales because they are not accurate. Take it for what it is worth.

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            @Commander Same. I am on my second cycle and no issues at all for me. Each vial is used for 2 weeks, no cloudiness or gelling at all. And it is effective. I have lost significant amount of visceral fat measured by body scan.

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            • hunt_akH hunt_ak

              Im really struggling with Tesa over CJC. It requires much higher dosing (like 8x more expensive just based on 250mcg vs 2mg dosing), is less stable in the vial from what I gather, and essentially does the same thing.

              Is it the FDA approval? I know it is hailed as the 'visceral fat' pick for these GHRH analogs but the reason for that is because it was tested for it...the others are going to do the same thing, which is getting the downstream IGF-1 boost.

              What am I missing?

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              @hunt_ak said:

              Im really struggling with Tesa over CJC. It requires much higher dosing (like 8x more expensive just based on 250mcg vs 2mg dosing), is less stable in the vial from what I gather, and essentially does the same thing.

              Is it the FDA approval? I know it is hailed as the 'visceral fat' pick for these GHRH analogs but the reason for that is because it was tested for it...the others are going to do the same thing, which is getting the downstream IGF-1 boost.

              What am I missing?

              You're not missing anything. The same reason why Tesa burns visceral fat is the same reason why CJC does - GHRH --> GH --> IGF-1

              The reason why Tesa is a thing is entirely because it was modified slightly so they could patent and sell it for profit, as they couldn't do that with CJC-1295

              The main difference is that CJC-1295 is much stronger and has a slightly longer half life, which means it must be dosed at a much careful/supervised amount, and there is less wiggle room for side effects. Meaning, theoretically, with Tesa you're likely to have more wiggle room for dosing experimentation across a wide range of people and less likely to run into issues given.

              You can have a blanket recommendation of say 1mg per day of Tesa as a starting dose and 150mcg of CJC-1295. Because Tesa has a shorter half life and doesn't illicit as strong of a GHRH response, it's likely going to be safer across a population of thousands of people using the drug.

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              • hunt_akH hunt_ak

                Im really struggling with Tesa over CJC. It requires much higher dosing (like 8x more expensive just based on 250mcg vs 2mg dosing), is less stable in the vial from what I gather, and essentially does the same thing.

                Is it the FDA approval? I know it is hailed as the 'visceral fat' pick for these GHRH analogs but the reason for that is because it was tested for it...the others are going to do the same thing, which is getting the downstream IGF-1 boost.

                What am I missing?

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                @hunt_ak
                Dr Ashley Froese did a YouTube video about tesamorelin a few weeks back that I thought contained some decent information. Its called: Dr Amazed - Tesamorelin DECIMATES Visceral Fat and MORE
                There does appear to be some science behind why tesa targets visceral fat better vs CJC or sermorelin beyond the IGF-1 increase, if that is your primary goal.
                Is it worth the extra $$ and potential side effects - that really varies. Everyone reacts differently to peps. I personally did not like tesa at all, but others love it.

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                  @hunt_ak
                  Dr Ashley Froese did a YouTube video about tesamorelin a few weeks back that I thought contained some decent information. Its called: Dr Amazed - Tesamorelin DECIMATES Visceral Fat and MORE
                  There does appear to be some science behind why tesa targets visceral fat better vs CJC or sermorelin beyond the IGF-1 increase, if that is your primary goal.
                  Is it worth the extra $$ and potential side effects - that really varies. Everyone reacts differently to peps. I personally did not like tesa at all, but others love it.

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                  @christexer said:

                  @hunt_ak
                  Dr Ashley Froese did a YouTube video about tesamorelin a few weeks back that I thought contained some decent information. Its called: Dr Amazed - Tesamorelin DECIMATES Visceral Fat and MORE
                  There does appear to be some science behind why tesa targets visceral fat better vs CJC or sermorelin beyond the IGF-1 increase, if that is your primary goal.
                  Is it worth the extra $$ and potential side effects - that really varies. Everyone reacts differently to peps. I personally did not like tesa at all, but others love it.

                  Another caveat I forgot to mention above, in that I do like Tesa for the simple fact that I always like to cycle my GHRH analogs to prevent potential antibody response. I do like to have complete down time with no exogenous GHRH usage, but I also like to cycle various GHRH peptides in and out. So it's nice to have another option in Tesa alongside CJC-1295 and Sermorelin.

                  As far as Tesa vs. CJC-1295 and the purported science behind why Tesa burns visceral fat better, I don't believe that it does at all and I haven't seen any science or evidence that proves that. I'll check out Dr. Ashley's video out and see what she has to say.

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                    I hate the flushing I get from CJC, so even if Tesa is a hair more money, it is worth it to me. I take this stuff to feel better, not worse

                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                      The HR increase/pounding for the first bit after dosing CJC is definitely something that tells me 'hello, I'm working in here!' haha

                      I do have a vial of Tesa that I'm going to do when I cycle off the CJC/Ipa blend for 4 weeks. We shall see how it goes!

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                        I don’t think there is much to gain from only doing 4 weeks worth. Tesa is more of a long haul peptide, 3 months and longer

                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                          12 weeks did me very well. I am currently just finishing week 6 of a planned 16 week cycle. You do have to be patient but you will see results if you have all the other things dialed in.(diet, exercise, sleep)

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                            @Stevepep
                            The Hume is the scale I was talking about. I bought it. Went for a dexa scan, came home from the scan and got on the Hume, more than 50% off..

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                            @Commander Wow totally different experience it was the same with my wife within 1pct of Dexa maybe it's a body type thing.

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                            • hunt_akH hunt_ak

                              The HR increase/pounding for the first bit after dosing CJC is definitely something that tells me 'hello, I'm working in here!' haha

                              I do have a vial of Tesa that I'm going to do when I cycle off the CJC/Ipa blend for 4 weeks. We shall see how it goes!

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                              @hunt_ak said:

                              The HR increase/pounding for the first bit after dosing CJC is definitely something that tells me 'hello, I'm working in here!' haha

                              I do have a vial of Tesa that I'm going to do when I cycle off the CJC/Ipa blend for 4 weeks. We shall see how it goes!

                              I don't get the increased HR, but I do get the warm fuzzy flushy feeling in my face. I actually like it, especially on a chilly morning inside a cold laboratory in a northern climate. Good way to start the day.

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                                Well, @randy has done a video on the comment I posted earlier, regarding refrigeration of Tesa.
                                For anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1AwgJ-S-vY

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                                  I wonder if you dilute it more of it makes a difference.

                                  Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                    I have 20mg vials coming in a couple of days, so I guess I will find out

                                    Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                      I have 20mg vials coming in a couple of days, so I guess I will find out

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                                      @Commander said:

                                      I have 20mg vials coming in a couple of days, so I guess I will find out

                                      I have seen those around, and was previously thinking that 20 days is way too long to have Tesa recon in use (I go 1mg per day).

                                      Your experiences have me thinking otherwise. I try not to get dogmatic about things and I will experiment and tinker if it makes sense, within reason.

                                      I have previously ran them for 10 days (not fridged) with no issues at all.

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                                        I’d love to see @randy run his next batch of testing on research grade Tesa, so we can finally see if it stays potent for a few weeks after reconstitution and if being in the fridge or room temp really matters (pretty please)?

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                                        @MacLeeezy said:

                                        I’d love to see @randy run his next batch of testing on research grade Tesa, so we can finally see if it stays potent for a few weeks after reconstitution and if being in the fridge or room temp really matters (pretty please)?

                                        I have 2 vials of 10mg Tesa powder in the fridge from Penguin I will donate to Randy if he will test. Might as well donate it bc I can't take it with the side effects.

                                        @randy What says you, rat?

                                        Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                          I have put 3 10mg vials in a cart before and have used 1.5mg a day, I haven’t had any problems so far. I only use Hospira, not sure if that makes a difference or not

                                          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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