AOD9604
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Correction: the AOD was from Instant Peptides
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Correction: the AOD was from Instant Peptides
Did your AOD-9604 from Instant Peptides gel? I had ordered 25 units from their latest batch and used a brand new bottle of Hospira Bac water along with Acetic Acid I bought from Instant Peptides and 3 vials in a row gelled. I reached out to them and the owner was quick to respond and is sending me 3 new bottles to try. Hopefully these will reconstitute correctly and they will replace my other bottles.
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Yes, it did gel with adding Acetic Acid and was quick to send out two bottles and some new Acetic Acid. I haven’t reconstituted any new vials yet. Using just BAC water from another vendor seemed to be just fine, when I tried the third vial. It would be good to know the acetate content in the lyophilozed material.
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For those of you that have researched AOD-9604, what are your thoughts on how well it has worked?
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I've never had a vial gel with hospira only. I've been playing with it for about 10 weeks.
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For those of you that have researched AOD-9604, what are your thoughts on how well it has worked?
@afkar7 after taking twice the normal dose for a few months i aliken it to something like taking a ibuprofen for a gunshot wound. Did it do something? Sure. But did you notice it? No. Did it move the needle toward significance? Also No. taps are playing and the bagpipes screech in the background.
I always hold any new expense up against stuff i know works unequivocally. For example...
Could you buy hgh about as cheaply as this? Depends on which telegram temu luci lu is calling you honey that night . But Yes.
Would it make far bigger changes... be it small weight loss and large muscle gain? Also Yes.
Is there far more sideffects? Yes with an asterix of what dosages are you fooling with.I think since takin reta i hold everything to that standard of quality of life change. With my budget i cant tolerate nore afford bullshit. And tbh i dislike pincuossioning my self excessively.
Tldr. If it works for someone else all the power to them. But for me nah. Specially with better stuff easily accessible.
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@afkar7 after taking twice the normal dose for a few months i aliken it to something like taking a ibuprofen for a gunshot wound. Did it do something? Sure. But did you notice it? No. Did it move the needle toward significance? Also No. taps are playing and the bagpipes screech in the background.
I always hold any new expense up against stuff i know works unequivocally. For example...
Could you buy hgh about as cheaply as this? Depends on which telegram temu luci lu is calling you honey that night . But Yes.
Would it make far bigger changes... be it small weight loss and large muscle gain? Also Yes.
Is there far more sideffects? Yes with an asterix of what dosages are you fooling with.I think since takin reta i hold everything to that standard of quality of life change. With my budget i cant tolerate nore afford bullshit. And tbh i dislike pincuossioning my self excessively.
Tldr. If it works for someone else all the power to them. But for me nah. Specially with better stuff easily accessible.
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@gym.rat said:
You also need to have a wide fasting window of 2-3 hours before and after your dose. If you can dose and workout, even better.
So I don't eat after 7 p.m. and I have worked out in the a.m fasted for years now. Workout is usually in the 9-10 a.m. window. I then won't eat again until after 12 so that's not an issue for me. I am also currently researching Reta. I don't have a lot of weight to lose, I'm 5'8" 154lb. Was curious if this could help tighten up the mid section to see if I could even get a two pack.
Appreciated the feedback. That goes for all that did respond, thanks.
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@quicksilver80 Would you put another peptide as a better fit or just the full HGH?
@krisacero im broke so i dont do either. But id rather use some of the more life changing peps/meds if i had that choice. Gh has so many benefits and downsides that its one of those you seriously see as a hammer for alot of your issues. It was more a good example. Why would i do turk or sarm equivalents when test is a thing. Same idea. Aod is just a gh fragment. Just do the full monty. Low dose. And get better positive effects?
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Yes, it did gel with adding Acetic Acid and was quick to send out two bottles and some new Acetic Acid. I haven’t reconstituted any new vials yet. Using just BAC water from another vendor seemed to be just fine, when I tried the third vial. It would be good to know the acetate content in the lyophilozed material.
Do not use their Acetic Acid. I believe it is bad or not correct for the AOD.
Chris the owner sent me 3 replacement vials of AOD and 2 new bottles of Acetic Acid (Black caps AA). The AA I had originally ordered from them with my 25 vials of AOD was the blue caps AA. That caused 3 of my AOD from them to gel. He said it was a new batch but the batch number is the same?? Anyways first replacement vial with the black cap AA did not gel but did not reconstitute properly. Cloudy and floaters after several hours. I decided to do what Randy did in his AOD video and only did Hospira Bac alone this time, 3ml, and it reconstituted just fine. No gelling or cloudy.So in the end I believe it's their AA that is the problem. Emailed Chris the owner again that I believe the AA is the issue and if he could send me a replacement vial of the AOD that went bad again, but no reply. I buy in bulk, but will only purchase from them again if they replace any vials that are bad.
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I think the AOD has enough acetate in the lyophilized material. The last step is a salt exchange, TFA---> Acetic Acid. The ion pairing appears to persist during the lyophilization phase. I used BAC from a different vendor, and it seems to be stable, one week later. Chris did send me two more vials. I'll make sure I don't add the AA. I think we all solved this, Randy, showed this in his YouTube. Digging deeper, it makes sense that the acetate is around in the lyophilized product. Yay team!
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I think the AOD has enough acetate in the lyophilized material. The last step is a salt exchange, TFA---> Acetic Acid. The ion pairing appears to persist during the lyophilization phase. I used BAC from a different vendor, and it seems to be stable, one week later. Chris did send me two more vials. I'll make sure I don't add the AA. I think we all solved this, Randy, showed this in his YouTube. Digging deeper, it makes sense that the acetate is around in the lyophilized product. Yay team!
@daveeid303 the problem may be that the cheaper manufactures cut the corners and don't run that extra step to remove enough TFA. I have seen so far only one seller testing for TFA and another one claiming to remove residual TFA.
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@daveeid303 the problem may be that the cheaper manufactures cut the corners and don't run that extra step to remove enough TFA. I have seen so far only one seller testing for TFA and another one claiming to remove residual TFA.
@vpeptides
That's not reassuring. If these are dissolving in BAC, there is a high probability that the pH is low enough due to the TFA counterion. Yikes! -
BTW, is anyone researching their AOD-9604 with a pen? Seems to be a little thicker and was wondering how well it works with the pens.
Thanks
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