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    Randy
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    HGH, Human Growth Hormone. Just say it. Feels good

    We dont organize testing on here but AFI always tests this rats GH.

    Also, theres lots of bad gh popping up lately according to John at AFI

    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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      WowwyZowwy
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      @randy A speak freely zone?!?! HGH! It’s so liberating!

      Thanks for the recommendation. What do you usually test for? ID, Purity, Assay and add on Dimer?

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        Isnt HGH a peptide?

        😂

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          Isnt HGH a peptide?

          😂

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          Stones67
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          @diegoc
          Or Nad? LOL

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            @randy A speak freely zone?!?! HGH! It’s so liberating!

            Thanks for the recommendation. What do you usually test for? ID, Purity, Assay and add on Dimer?

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            Randy
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            @WowwyZowwy yeah plus endo and sterility.

            "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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              Isnt HGH a peptide?

              😂

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              Randy
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              @diegoc the best one 😉

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                @diegoc the best one 😉

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                diegoc
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                @Randy it really is 1-2iu goes a long way

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                  IMG_3899.jpeg

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                    IMG_3899.jpeg

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                    Stones67
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                    @diegoc
                    No clown feet like Pete? Or prominent brow? LOL Seriously, you've got it dialed in. I'm sitting at 212 (Z 1.1) and feeling a little inadequate while messing around with CJC/IPA. Hmmm.

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                      @diegoc
                      No clown feet like Pete? Or prominent brow? LOL Seriously, you've got it dialed in. I'm sitting at 212 (Z 1.1) and feeling a little inadequate while messing around with CJC/IPA. Hmmm.

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                      @Stones67 we old folks gotta go directly for the gud stuff, we dont have time to mess around. 💪

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                        @Randy it really is 1-2iu goes a long way

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                        Randy
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                        @diegoc im on 3 for the culture. though im throttling back to 1.5 on my next pen. difference was negligible.

                        "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                          diegoc
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                          Yeah isnt that interesting were you can feel great with min doses and sometimes more is not better

                          How many points difference did you see from 1.5 to 3

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                            WowwyZowwy
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                            61c8761e-95a2-4fef-91e0-c6ec17738d56-image.jpeg

                            Yeah I need a little boost. Testing is expensive though when not done in a group.
                            Contacted John at AFI and got good pricing (better than published on website) but its still $400-500 for all those tests. More than I paid for the HGH (QSC $0.38/IU)

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                              @diegoc
                              No clown feet like Pete? Or prominent brow? LOL Seriously, you've got it dialed in. I'm sitting at 212 (Z 1.1) and feeling a little inadequate while messing around with CJC/IPA. Hmmm.

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                              Neil McCauley
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                              @Stones67 said:

                              @diegoc
                              No clown feet like Pete? Or prominent brow? LOL Seriously, you've got it dialed in. I'm sitting at 212 (Z 1.1) and feeling a little inadequate while messing around with CJC/IPA. Hmmm.

                              180 - 220 igf-1 score is ideal for anti-aging and overall health benefits while minimizing side effects/cancer issues long term. I wouldn't muck around with it at a 212 score, that's plenty of igf-1 floating ground to do it's job of tissue repair/healing/lypolisis/sleep while minimizing run away cell proliferation.

                              There is also benefits to keeping the natural order of those pituitary somatotrophs working and the whole natural process of the HTPA axis going. If you weren't getting any response from secretagogues and your igf-1 was <100 then I'd say absolutely go the HGH route.

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                                diegoc
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                                Im at 2iu and just above the ref range. i dont think its bad unless i was over 400 however Im going to try the same dose as @randy 1.5iu to see were i land.

                                The peptide game is to use the effective min dose on everything

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                                  Im at 2iu and just above the ref range. i dont think its bad unless i was over 400 however Im going to try the same dose as @randy 1.5iu to see were i land.

                                  The peptide game is to use the effective min dose on everything

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                                  Neil McCauley
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                                  @diegoc said:

                                  Im at 2iu and just above the ref range. i dont think its bad unless i was over 400 however Im going to try the same dose as @randy 1.5iu to see were i land.

                                  The peptide game is to use the effective min dose on everything

                                  The largest meta analysis was pulled from this

                                  e562b30f-cc4e-4869-9cea-ed23d2d7bd65-image.jpeg

                                  Association between IGF-1 levels ranges and all-cause mortality: A meta-analysis

                                  https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acel.13540

                                  Worth checking out. This was done across large population groups so there are caveats.

                                  120–160 ng/mL — the identified low-risk floor of the curve in the pooled data. However, even in the 180-220 range the extra igf-1 can be seen as worth the slightly increased risks due to benefits. Once you go above 220 though the relative risk starts to sharply increase.

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                                    @diegoc said:

                                    Im at 2iu and just above the ref range. i dont think its bad unless i was over 400 however Im going to try the same dose as @randy 1.5iu to see were i land.

                                    The peptide game is to use the effective min dose on everything

                                    The largest meta analysis was pulled from this

                                    e562b30f-cc4e-4869-9cea-ed23d2d7bd65-image.jpeg

                                    Association between IGF-1 levels ranges and all-cause mortality: A meta-analysis

                                    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acel.13540

                                    Worth checking out. This was done across large population groups so there are caveats.

                                    120–160 ng/mL — the identified low-risk floor of the curve in the pooled data. However, even in the 180-220 range the extra igf-1 can be seen as worth the slightly increased risks due to benefits. Once you go above 220 though the relative risk starts to sharply increase.

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                                    bfuller
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                                    @Neil-McCauley I have always heard 150 was the goldie locks zone for longevity and this chart now helps me understand that statement. Thanks!

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                                      I agree but you have to build the muscle and then lower the dose to maintain even though 300 is still in the reference range.

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                                        Im not planning on running the upper limits of the reference range for longevity

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