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  • J josephbrown

    @thanks_enjoi in regards to TRT clinics being "pill mills" grown humans should have the option to do whatever they want. Unfortunately in many things Doctors are the gate keepers. Unless a person knows where else to look. Taking super physiological doses of testosterone does not necessarily wreck your endocrine system. it will temporarily slow down or shut off test production. However If you take care of it that can be reversed pretty easily now. if a person is willing to spend a little extra it can be kept online the entire time.

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    @TheHazmatGuy
    I agree with your view. My Testosterone has always been out of normal range on the high side.
    My doctor still wrote me a prescription for TRT because we reasoned that normal for me is more like 1200-1500. That is normal for me. We are all different and what works for some might not work for others.
    I'm 68 and know a lot of guys around my age that are on TRT. A lot of them say they don't notice much of a difference? If that were me, I would take probably take more. Seems like more people are under treated rather than over treated. Numbers are great guides for helping you figure out stuff, but for me, I am looking more for a certain feeling of wellbeing.
    Testosterone, HGH and Peptides make sense to me as a first choice for improving my overall health. Replacing or enhancing with things my body already produces makes me more comfortable than trusting chemical compounds from big pharma.
    I understand the concern with TRT for younger people, but I agree that for the majority of people, coming off TRT is very doable if necessary.

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      @TheHazmatGuy
      I agree with your view. My Testosterone has always been out of normal range on the high side.
      My doctor still wrote me a prescription for TRT because we reasoned that normal for me is more like 1200-1500. That is normal for me. We are all different and what works for some might not work for others.
      I'm 68 and know a lot of guys around my age that are on TRT. A lot of them say they don't notice much of a difference? If that were me, I would take probably take more. Seems like more people are under treated rather than over treated. Numbers are great guides for helping you figure out stuff, but for me, I am looking more for a certain feeling of wellbeing.
      Testosterone, HGH and Peptides make sense to me as a first choice for improving my overall health. Replacing or enhancing with things my body already produces makes me more comfortable than trusting chemical compounds from big pharma.
      I understand the concern with TRT for younger people, but I agree that for the majority of people, coming off TRT is very doable if necessary.

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      Neil McCauley
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      @CapmanCrunch said:

      @TheHazmatGuy
      I agree with your view. My Testosterone has always been out of normal range on the high side.
      My doctor still wrote me a prescription for TRT because we reasoned that normal for me is more like 1200-1500. That is normal for me. We are all different and what works for some might not work for others.
      I'm 68 and know a lot of guys around my age that are on TRT. A lot of them say they don't notice much of a difference? If that were me, I would take probably take more. Seems like more people are under treated rather than over treated. Numbers are great guides for helping you figure out stuff, but for me, I am looking more for a certain feeling of wellbeing.
      Testosterone, HGH and Peptides make sense to me as a first choice for improving my overall health. Replacing or enhancing with things my body already produces makes me more comfortable than trusting chemical compounds from big pharma.
      I understand the concern with TRT for younger people, but I agree that for the majority of people, coming off TRT is very doable if necessary.

      What is your PSA?

      One reason why many 65+ aged people on TRT don't get the energy/QOL boost they expect is because often their IGF-1 & DHEA numbers are in the toilet (<100 for both).

      Having a 600 test level and an IGF-1/DHEA scores of > 200 is far, far superior than having a 1200 test level and an IGF-1/DHEA scores of < 100.

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        Can anyone help me understand dimer? What is an acceptable level in hgh191aa?

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          @Randy said in HGH 191AA:

          @PeptidePete hgh is a horribly misunderstood compound and therapeutic doses have changed my life. I appreciate you checking. Good with me. Lets just leave tren, var and equipoise out of the convo.

          LOL! 😂

          Totally agree, on all counts. All good.

          Parting comment, I would suggest an interested person can find Janoshik documented quality at well under $1/IU, shipped from US, for those who care.

          Also- MOTs-C is your friend in this situation, an informed researcher is a healthy researcher.

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          @PeptidePete can you expand on the mots c part tou mentioned here please? Trying to gather some more info

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            @randy any words on storage for gh?? Also any advice on timeline switching from tesa/ipa to gh? Dont know if it should be treated like a cycle

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              Can anyone help me understand dimer? What is an acceptable level in hgh191aa?

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              Randy
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              @ogsteve said:

              dimer

              folded peptide. usually causes isr. lower the better

              "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                @randy any words on storage for gh?? Also any advice on timeline switching from tesa/ipa to gh? Dont know if it should be treated like a cycle

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                @mandangox28 a month off/get igf checked. put the rat on gh protocol and get igf checked again after a month. adust if needed.

                Im more of a cowboy with this one but thats what i udnerstand to be the safe route.

                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                  Yes, https://peptide-works.com
                  They sell vials and nasal spray form; I wouldn't get the nasal spray again cuz the mg amount isn't noted so I had to figure amt from iu/mg estimate and it looks like I would need 15 sprays for an effective dose.

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                  • C Commander

                    Thank you. I may try Aavent, but the others look to confusing to me….

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                    @Commander did you try Aavant HGH? Im curious about getting good quality HGH and where to get it.

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                      I don;t think Aavant has ever made hgh, could be wrong.

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                      • J jasonkoerner

                        @Commander did you try Aavant HGH? Im curious about getting good quality HGH and where to get it.

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                        @jasonkoerner said:

                        @Commander did you try Aavant HGH? Im curious about getting good quality HGH and where to get it.

                        I have not. But from what I have read all over the place is Lobster is the “gold standard” for HGH. Others can correct me if I am wrong. I also remember reading on here that Jeff said Tracy ( I think Tracy is QST or something like that, someone can post his details) has good HGH. I am going to pick up a few kit to try again when I take a break from Tesa in a few months.

                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                          @jasonkoerner said:

                          @Commander did you try Aavant HGH? Im curious about getting good quality HGH and where to get it.

                          I have not. But from what I have read all over the place is Lobster is the “gold standard” for HGH. Others can correct me if I am wrong. I also remember reading on here that Jeff said Tracy ( I think Tracy is QST or something like that, someone can post his details) has good HGH. I am going to pick up a few kit to try again when I take a break from Tesa in a few months.

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                          CapmanCrunch
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                          @Commander
                          Tracy at QSC has the best HGH I have tried so far. great selection of sizes and lots of testing. Most vials have healthy overfill. The only mainstream vendor that I found that carries it is Penguin.

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                            My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
                            I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

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                            • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

                              My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
                              I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

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                              @kenhnsy Here is a link to one resource I use when deciding on a protocol: https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/hgh

                              I’m no expert. I’m just a random guy who likes to take peptides. Good luck!

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                              • C CapmanCrunch

                                @Commander
                                Tracy at QSC has the best HGH I have tried so far. great selection of sizes and lots of testing. Most vials have healthy overfill. The only mainstream vendor that I found that carries it is Penguin.

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                                @CapmanCrunch she does good. im currently using hers in my lab.

                                "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                  I don;t think Aavant has ever made hgh, could be wrong.

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                                  Randy
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                                  @bangkokiscool They havent and if they did...the hairs might be growing.

                                  "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                  • kenhnsyK kenhnsy

                                    My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
                                    I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

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                                    Neil McCauley
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                                    @kenhnsy said:

                                    My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
                                    I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

                                    Start with 1iu. Get labs after 90 days. You want igf-1 ideally between 180 - 220 and glucose <100. Get the basic panel ran as well (CMP/CBC/LIPIDS) just to make sure everything is running smooth. Plenty of lab services online that are cheap.

                                    Look up edema symptoms. Be on the lookout for them, you should be fine at that low of a dosage but still pay attention.

                                    If you get a yearly physical, it would be worth it to schedule during this time, often they run these panels and you can get them for free plus they'll test your BP and benchmark weight.

                                    I do labs twice a year, once for free with my yearly physical and once out of pocket with online services.

                                    Lots of info online. If you're wealthy and have extra resources its worth it to hire coaches/clinics but you can also learn this stuff as well with online resources.

                                    If you run into any serious issues don't hesitate to see your physician and just be up front and honest with what you're doing. They see all sorts of people doing all sorts of things.

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                                      @kenhnsy said:

                                      My head is spinning trying to process this info. I am interested in putting the beaver on HGH after watching a few gurus who are touting it. So, can a few of you put down a concise protocol with dosage, peptide stacking, labs to use, gurus with information that you find competent?
                                      I get reluctant when I look at the chemical feedback loops and then it looks tempting to buy one of the guru's time. But with the proliferation of NLP, I know many of them have Tony Robbins plans to siphon as much money off of me as is emotionally possible. So, it would be great to get a plan from some of you who we trust and have used HGH successfully.

                                      Start with 1iu. Get labs after 90 days. You want igf-1 ideally between 180 - 220 and glucose <100. Get the basic panel ran as well (CMP/CBC/LIPIDS) just to make sure everything is running smooth. Plenty of lab services online that are cheap.

                                      Look up edema symptoms. Be on the lookout for them, you should be fine at that low of a dosage but still pay attention.

                                      If you get a yearly physical, it would be worth it to schedule during this time, often they run these panels and you can get them for free plus they'll test your BP and benchmark weight.

                                      I do labs twice a year, once for free with my yearly physical and once out of pocket with online services.

                                      Lots of info online. If you're wealthy and have extra resources its worth it to hire coaches/clinics but you can also learn this stuff as well with online resources.

                                      If you run into any serious issues don't hesitate to see your physician and just be up front and honest with what you're doing. They see all sorts of people doing all sorts of things.

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                                      @Neil-McCauley idk my dr wont test beyond annual physical lab work without symptoms. If I did press, like I have before for hormone panel, I end up paying dearly for the lab work copay and such.

                                      Self directed labs are the way to go. They’re done thru quest and labcore anyway. But IGF is always more than hormones and basics

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                                        @Neil-McCauley idk my dr wont test beyond annual physical lab work without symptoms. If I did press, like I have before for hormone panel, I end up paying dearly for the lab work copay and such.

                                        Self directed labs are the way to go. They’re done thru quest and labcore anyway. But IGF is always more than hormones and basics

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                                        @ursus said:

                                        @Neil-McCauley idk my dr wont test beyond annual physical lab work without symptoms. If I did press, like I have before for hormone panel, I end up paying dearly for the lab work copay and such.

                                        Self directed labs are the way to go. They’re done thru quest and labcore anyway. But IGF is always more than hormones and basics

                                        My insurance company is similar. I get everything that's covered in my free yearly, which is pretty much everything outside of hormones. My 2nd lab trip is all the basics plus hormones - using online services I still only pay around 150 bucks for everything. Prior years I used LEF. This year I may try Marek or someone else.

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                                          I haven’t hit my deductible limit yet so I had to pay $300 of the $1,547 raw billing for my doctor’s labs(CBC + lipids + PSA), where two full sets with Function costs me $350. But I got a full urinalysis + for no additional fee with my last visit.

                                          Trying to figure out doctor lab math will just hurt your brain, but I guess if you can get them to do it and you don’t have to pay, that’s fine.

                                          Yeah, well, I’m just here for the research, man. - The Dude

                                          If I haven’t liked your post, no offense. I have exceeded my daily allowance.

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