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Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)

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  • vpepsV vpeps

    @denti in a month or two BLL is releasing their albumin-bound IGF-1.

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    @vpeptides
    I have all the supplies for a 4-6 week cycle if IGF-LR3 and Peg-MGF while I take a break from FLGR. Now they start talking about the BioIGF coming soon. Jeez. So many decisions!

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      @vpeptides
      I have all the supplies for a 4-6 week cycle if IGF-LR3 and Peg-MGF while I take a break from FLGR. Now they start talking about the BioIGF coming soon. Jeez. So many decisions!

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      @Stones67 Use your stash, then jump on the next shiny red object ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

      I gots a whole lotta GH so i will run through all that before i buy another.

      I will do FLGR with GH, in Jan, lets see ๐Ÿ’ช

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        So tried to download and pin the FLGR cheat sheet (PDF) which is behind the subscription to Jay's FOH community. File size is too large. Plus it's kinda proprietary so maybe for the best. So I'm gonna do this the old fashioned way and type it.
        Men's Cycle: Run continuously for up to 36 weeks (3 phases) then 6-12 weeks off to reset
        Weeks 1-12 2.5mg/week or 5mg every two weeks
        Weeks 13-24. 5.0 mg weekly split- 2.5mg Tuesday + 2.5mg Friday
        Optional Weeks 25-36 10mg/week(max)
        *** implies this is for folks making gains for show prep, cover shoots, etc.
        There's also a women's cycle which is essentially half of everything above.
        Now the way actual users are handling dosing is all over the place. Some daily, some 2-3 times a week, weekly, etc.
        There is little science because we are the science! The video Pete linked on X a few days ago is about how most of the YouTube videos unfolded so worth a listen if you want to meet the chemist. Listening toJay Campbell is kinda like eating fish eggs- you can do it but you might have to plug your nose. No dis' on your culinary choices Pete!

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        @Stones67 Does he recommend doses of flgr242 for preserving muscles on reta or tirz? Heard that somewhere in this podcast, wasn't interested then but cant find now.

        Is anybody researching with reta+flgr242 for significant weight loss and muscle retention without the gym?

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          @Stones67 Does he recommend doses of flgr242 for preserving muscles on reta or tirz? Heard that somewhere in this podcast, wasn't interested then but cant find now.

          Is anybody researching with reta+flgr242 for significant weight loss and muscle retention without the gym?

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          I've found - he recommends 1mg once a week

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          • vpepsV vpeps

            I came across a test for Klotho levels. If anyone is curious enough to spend $500 on 2 tests, before and after.
            Or it can be a way to save money, if the 1st test shows your levels are good enough.

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            @vpeptides - thanks for that link! Iโ€™m just starting with BLLโ€™s Klotho, after playing around with Bucky Klotho last year. I did not know there were reliable tests for it yet. I wish Iโ€™d gotten a baseline on myself and my dad (whoโ€™s only taken a few BLL doses).
            I appreciate the link!
            CM

            I came across a test for Klotho levels. If anyone is curious enough to spend $500 on 2 tests, before and after.
            Or it can be a way to save money, if the 1st test shows your levels are good enough.

            Retired chemist & pharmacy tech.
            Seeking lower $/mg, with robust COAโ€™s

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              Mr Smurf
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              Im gonna dabble. Got 12 vials of slim assist. Im 43, went from 245 ---> 165 pounds, im on trt, reta, tesa/ipa. Diet game is locked and I am religious with gym attendance, also play beer league hockey2 days a week. I added a + to my trt and instantly sent my liver enzymes into a tizzy fit lol so, for $250 I figured this is worth a trial.

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              • mmpM mmp

                I've found - he recommends 1mg once a week

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                @mmp
                yep. essentially slim assist (plus a little vit b).

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                • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                  Im gonna dabble. Got 12 vials of slim assist. Im 43, went from 245 ---> 165 pounds, im on trt, reta, tesa/ipa. Diet game is locked and I am religious with gym attendance, also play beer league hockey2 days a week. I added a + to my trt and instantly sent my liver enzymes into a tizzy fit lol so, for $250 I figured this is worth a trial.

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                  @Mr-Smurf
                  That should be enough to get some veins popping. Its what most of us noticed first.

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                    @Mr-Smurf
                    That should be enough to get some veins popping. Its what most of us noticed first.

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                    @Stones67 oh ya, im here for it, and honestly.. they kind of are already, my test subject will be my rats delts that are showing vascularity under pump. Also a little bit of that notoriously stubborn midsection chub that wont go down without a fight. Ill take any meaningful result as a win.

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                    • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                      @Stones67 oh ya, im here for it, and honestly.. they kind of are already, my test subject will be my rats delts that are showing vascularity under pump. Also a little bit of that notoriously stubborn midsection chub that wont go down without a fight. Ill take any meaningful result as a win.

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                      Starting from here

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                      • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                        1000028687.jpg
                        Starting from here

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                        @Mr-Smurf
                        Got it! Great starting point. So that vein running horizontally across your right bicep should become more prominent and maybe a few in the forearm. I personally like the aesthetic but the wife remains noncommittal! I also think it helps a bit in the midsection and love handle area, at least on me. Enjoy the trial. Minor warning- the albumin binder can cause a little burning, itching, and maybe even a small bump the first few injections. This has resolved for most folks over time.

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                          @Mr-Smurf
                          Got it! Great starting point. So that vein running horizontally across your right bicep should become more prominent and maybe a few in the forearm. I personally like the aesthetic but the wife remains noncommittal! I also think it helps a bit in the midsection and love handle area, at least on me. Enjoy the trial. Minor warning- the albumin binder can cause a little burning, itching, and maybe even a small bump the first few injections. This has resolved for most folks over time.

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                          @Stones67 im a seasoned vet at this point lol a little pip or bump ain't gonna scare me off easy ๐Ÿ˜…

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                          • mmpM mmp

                            @Stones67 Does he recommend doses of flgr242 for preserving muscles on reta or tirz? Heard that somewhere in this podcast, wasn't interested then but cant find now.

                            Is anybody researching with reta+flgr242 for significant weight loss and muscle retention without the gym?

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                            @mmp just my opinion. I wouldnโ€™t waste FLGR if you cant go to the gym, your better off using GH and Test only, with Reta.

                            Save that precious stuff when you can commit to 3x a week atleast, well thats just me, even if its push ups, burpies and pullups

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                            • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                              Im gonna dabble. Got 12 vials of slim assist. Im 43, went from 245 ---> 165 pounds, im on trt, reta, tesa/ipa. Diet game is locked and I am religious with gym attendance, also play beer league hockey2 days a week. I added a + to my trt and instantly sent my liver enzymes into a tizzy fit lol so, for $250 I figured this is worth a trial.

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                              @Mr-Smurf NAC, and Glutathione and give a days rest when you do the labs..

                              The Liver doesnโ€™t like labs on the day after a workout ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                @Mr-Smurf NAC, and Glutathione and give a days rest when you do the labs..

                                The Liver doesnโ€™t like labs on the day after a workout ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                                @diegoc yup got caught out on all fronts lol resumed gluta, nac/tudca are running also, and ill take a couple days off before follow up for good measure

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                                  @Mr-Smurf
                                  Got it! Great starting point. So that vein running horizontally across your right bicep should become more prominent and maybe a few in the forearm. I personally like the aesthetic but the wife remains noncommittal! I also think it helps a bit in the midsection and love handle area, at least on me. Enjoy the trial. Minor warning- the albumin binder can cause a little burning, itching, and maybe even a small bump the first few injections. This has resolved for most folks over time.

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                                  @Stones67 wife non commenting?

                                  Hmm wait to you get under 14% BF

                                  It gets crazy at that point

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                                  • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                                    @diegoc yup got caught out on all fronts lol resumed gluta, nac/tudca are running also, and ill take a couple days off before follow up for good measure

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                                    @Mr-Smurf Yeah i was walking and typing and forgot Tudca like 500mg

                                    Works like a charm

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                                    • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                                      @Stones67 im a seasoned vet at this point lol a little pip or bump ain't gonna scare me off easy ๐Ÿ˜…

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                                      @Mr-Smurf Try 1000mg of L-carn ,that one bites

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                                        @peptidepete I've been eyeing Klotho as well... any of your findings would be most interesting ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        @PeptideEd

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                                          @Stones67 wife non commenting?

                                          Hmm wait to you get under 14% BF

                                          It gets crazy at that point

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                                          @diegoc
                                          Ha. She's Norwegian and didn't mind the more "well fed" dad bod of old! LOL. (Got my BF down to 12.9% on July's dexa and am never going back.) I'm not leaving her out of the game either. Reta, Klotho, and slim assist are performing quite nicely for her research as well. Love your thread bud.

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