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Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)

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  • S Stones67

    @Mr-Smurf
    That should be enough to get some veins popping. Its what most of us noticed first.

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    @Stones67 oh ya, im here for it, and honestly.. they kind of are already, my test subject will be my rats delts that are showing vascularity under pump. Also a little bit of that notoriously stubborn midsection chub that wont go down without a fight. Ill take any meaningful result as a win.

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      @Stones67 oh ya, im here for it, and honestly.. they kind of are already, my test subject will be my rats delts that are showing vascularity under pump. Also a little bit of that notoriously stubborn midsection chub that wont go down without a fight. Ill take any meaningful result as a win.

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      1000028687.jpg
      Starting from here

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      • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

        1000028687.jpg
        Starting from here

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        @Mr-Smurf
        Got it! Great starting point. So that vein running horizontally across your right bicep should become more prominent and maybe a few in the forearm. I personally like the aesthetic but the wife remains noncommittal! I also think it helps a bit in the midsection and love handle area, at least on me. Enjoy the trial. Minor warning- the albumin binder can cause a little burning, itching, and maybe even a small bump the first few injections. This has resolved for most folks over time.

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        • S Stones67

          @Mr-Smurf
          Got it! Great starting point. So that vein running horizontally across your right bicep should become more prominent and maybe a few in the forearm. I personally like the aesthetic but the wife remains noncommittal! I also think it helps a bit in the midsection and love handle area, at least on me. Enjoy the trial. Minor warning- the albumin binder can cause a little burning, itching, and maybe even a small bump the first few injections. This has resolved for most folks over time.

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          @Stones67 im a seasoned vet at this point lol a little pip or bump ain't gonna scare me off easy ๐Ÿ˜…

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          • mmpM mmp

            @Stones67 Does he recommend doses of flgr242 for preserving muscles on reta or tirz? Heard that somewhere in this podcast, wasn't interested then but cant find now.

            Is anybody researching with reta+flgr242 for significant weight loss and muscle retention without the gym?

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            @mmp just my opinion. I wouldnโ€™t waste FLGR if you cant go to the gym, your better off using GH and Test only, with Reta.

            Save that precious stuff when you can commit to 3x a week atleast, well thats just me, even if its push ups, burpies and pullups

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            • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

              Im gonna dabble. Got 12 vials of slim assist. Im 43, went from 245 ---> 165 pounds, im on trt, reta, tesa/ipa. Diet game is locked and I am religious with gym attendance, also play beer league hockey2 days a week. I added a + to my trt and instantly sent my liver enzymes into a tizzy fit lol so, for $250 I figured this is worth a trial.

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              @Mr-Smurf NAC, and Glutathione and give a days rest when you do the labs..

              The Liver doesnโ€™t like labs on the day after a workout ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                @Mr-Smurf NAC, and Glutathione and give a days rest when you do the labs..

                The Liver doesnโ€™t like labs on the day after a workout ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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                @diegoc yup got caught out on all fronts lol resumed gluta, nac/tudca are running also, and ill take a couple days off before follow up for good measure

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                • S Stones67

                  @Mr-Smurf
                  Got it! Great starting point. So that vein running horizontally across your right bicep should become more prominent and maybe a few in the forearm. I personally like the aesthetic but the wife remains noncommittal! I also think it helps a bit in the midsection and love handle area, at least on me. Enjoy the trial. Minor warning- the albumin binder can cause a little burning, itching, and maybe even a small bump the first few injections. This has resolved for most folks over time.

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                  @Stones67 wife non commenting?

                  Hmm wait to you get under 14% BF

                  It gets crazy at that point

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                  • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                    @diegoc yup got caught out on all fronts lol resumed gluta, nac/tudca are running also, and ill take a couple days off before follow up for good measure

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                    @Mr-Smurf Yeah i was walking and typing and forgot Tudca like 500mg

                    Works like a charm

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                    • Mr SmurfM Mr Smurf

                      @Stones67 im a seasoned vet at this point lol a little pip or bump ain't gonna scare me off easy ๐Ÿ˜…

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                      @Mr-Smurf Try 1000mg of L-carn ,that one bites

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                      • P PeptideEd

                        @peptidepete I've been eyeing Klotho as well... any of your findings would be most interesting ๐Ÿ™‚

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                        JoeC
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                        @PeptideEd

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                        • D diegoc

                          @Stones67 wife non commenting?

                          Hmm wait to you get under 14% BF

                          It gets crazy at that point

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                          @diegoc
                          Ha. She's Norwegian and didn't mind the more "well fed" dad bod of old! LOL. (Got my BF down to 12.9% on July's dexa and am never going back.) I'm not leaving her out of the game either. Reta, Klotho, and slim assist are performing quite nicely for her research as well. Love your thread bud.

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                            Apologies for blank post. I bought the flgr to try it. Planning on 100 mcg for 2 weeks and 200 for 4 weeks. Running Reta/Tirz combo, Tesa/ipa combo, Klow.

                            Have Ara290 in the queue. Waiting to finish Epi/Pine and SS31/Mots C courses before FLGR

                            Thoughts

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                              Hume scale, BF 11% muscle mass 112
                              Pounds 64yo male 6โ€™2โ€. Peptides rock

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                                Apologies for blank post. I bought the flgr to try it. Planning on 100 mcg for 2 weeks and 200 for 4 weeks. Running Reta/Tirz combo, Tesa/ipa combo, Klow.

                                Have Ara290 in the queue. Waiting to finish Epi/Pine and SS31/Mots C courses before FLGR

                                Thoughts

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                                @JoeC
                                Are you outlining the above as daily or weekly?

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                                • S Stones67

                                  @Mr-Smurf
                                  That should be enough to get some veins popping. Its what most of us noticed first.

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                                  @Stones67 lol that's pretty much my goal. More veins popping and try to look like Diego above.

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                                    @mmp just my opinion. I wouldnโ€™t waste FLGR if you cant go to the gym, your better off using GH and Test only, with Reta.

                                    Save that precious stuff when you can commit to 3x a week atleast, well thats just me, even if its push ups, burpies and pullups

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                                    @diegoc Diego I'm starting Slim Assist 2mg this week and hitting my Tonal hard. Will dedicate at least 3x a week to it and cut down on cardio/running. Just wanted to confirm with you again that 2mg to 2.5mg 1x a week is the way to go to start out? After a few months go to 5mg 1x a week or 2.5mg 2x a week? And do this for 6 months? My goal is to get as shredded as you are in your pictures.

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                                    • S Stones67

                                      @JoeC
                                      Are you outlining the above as daily or weekly?

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                                      @Stones67
                                      Daily, I use Peppedia to track, Klow 4mgd, Tesa/ IPA 1,3 mg/d (was 2,6), Reta 250mcg and Tirz 2.5mg 2x/wk.

                                      Background, lost 80 pounds in last year added 10 pounds of muscle. Bragging, I can bench my weight and do 10 pull-ups. Feel outstanding. Also forgot, NAD+ 50 mg/d

                                      Had 2 heart attacks 5 years ago and doc was managing my decline. Went from stage 3 congestive heart failure, stage 3b kidney failure, lung function at 50% severe gout to where Iโ€™m at now in better shape than when I was 30.

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                                        Also ARA is for lingering neuropathy

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                                        • J JoeC

                                          @Stones67
                                          Daily, I use Peppedia to track, Klow 4mgd, Tesa/ IPA 1,3 mg/d (was 2,6), Reta 250mcg and Tirz 2.5mg 2x/wk.

                                          Background, lost 80 pounds in last year added 10 pounds of muscle. Bragging, I can bench my weight and do 10 pull-ups. Feel outstanding. Also forgot, NAD+ 50 mg/d

                                          Had 2 heart attacks 5 years ago and doc was managing my decline. Went from stage 3 congestive heart failure, stage 3b kidney failure, lung function at 50% severe gout to where Iโ€™m at now in better shape than when I was 30.

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                                          Stones67
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                                          @JoeC
                                          Feels good to feel young again huh? Your approach is similar to what my startup was in terms of dosing. If memory serves it was 1.25 mg total for weeks 1 and 2- in a 5d on 2d off schedule. Then 2.5mg for weeks 3 and beyond until I moved to 5mg weekly. Someone posted a nice graph, upthread, a month or two ago showing dose accumulation (weekly v daily) over time based on albumin kinetics. You end up in roughly the same spot eventually. You do you cuz there doesn't seem to be a wrong way!

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