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Klotho / FLGR242 (albumin-bound new tech)

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  • J JoeC

    @Stones67
    Daily, I use Peppedia to track, Klow 4mgd, Tesa/ IPA 1,3 mg/d (was 2,6), Reta 250mcg and Tirz 2.5mg 2x/wk.

    Background, lost 80 pounds in last year added 10 pounds of muscle. Bragging, I can bench my weight and do 10 pull-ups. Feel outstanding. Also forgot, NAD+ 50 mg/d

    Had 2 heart attacks 5 years ago and doc was managing my decline. Went from stage 3 congestive heart failure, stage 3b kidney failure, lung function at 50% severe gout to where I’m at now in better shape than when I was 30.

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    @JoeC
    Feels good to feel young again huh? Your approach is similar to what my startup was in terms of dosing. If memory serves it was 1.25 mg total for weeks 1 and 2- in a 5d on 2d off schedule. Then 2.5mg for weeks 3 and beyond until I moved to 5mg weekly. Someone posted a nice graph, upthread, a month or two ago showing dose accumulation (weekly v daily) over time based on albumin kinetics. You end up in roughly the same spot eventually. You do you cuz there doesn't seem to be a wrong way!

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    • S Stones67

      @diegoc
      Ha. She's Norwegian and didn't mind the more "well fed" dad bod of old! LOL. (Got my BF down to 12.9% on July's dexa and am never going back.) I'm not leaving her out of the game either. Reta, Klotho, and slim assist are performing quite nicely for her research as well. Love your thread bud.

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      @Stones67 Oh its so much easier when they are on board, makes nutrition and working out a breeze 💪

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        @diegoc Diego I'm starting Slim Assist 2mg this week and hitting my Tonal hard. Will dedicate at least 3x a week to it and cut down on cardio/running. Just wanted to confirm with you again that 2mg to 2.5mg 1x a week is the way to go to start out? After a few months go to 5mg 1x a week or 2.5mg 2x a week? And do this for 6 months? My goal is to get as shredded as you are in your pictures.

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        @denti Oh brother to be transparent on FLGR, I only purchased it but I seriously haven’t done the deep dive research. This is @peptidepete thread and he has all the experience.

        Im sure we can get all the latest testing he has done and updated protocols.

        I do take Klotho

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        • J JoeC

          @Stones67
          Daily, I use Peppedia to track, Klow 4mgd, Tesa/ IPA 1,3 mg/d (was 2,6), Reta 250mcg and Tirz 2.5mg 2x/wk.

          Background, lost 80 pounds in last year added 10 pounds of muscle. Bragging, I can bench my weight and do 10 pull-ups. Feel outstanding. Also forgot, NAD+ 50 mg/d

          Had 2 heart attacks 5 years ago and doc was managing my decline. Went from stage 3 congestive heart failure, stage 3b kidney failure, lung function at 50% severe gout to where I’m at now in better shape than when I was 30.

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          @JoeC Joe I had 1 heart attack at the age of 41 with 2 stents, so your goals in the longevity are the same as mine.

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            Thank y’all!

            I was projected to not make it past 65, now I believe I’ll see 80 God willing. I’m working with a concierge group called VOAfit. I feel I need to have someone looking over my shoulder. I keep telling folks, I’m the rat. Btw, this is my first post here

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              @JoeC Joe I had 1 heart attack at the age of 41 with 2 stents, so your goals in the longevity are the same as mine.

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              @diegoc I had 2 widow makers. Three stents. I feel the pain of not knowing if you will survive the day.

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                @denti Oh brother to be transparent on FLGR, I only purchased it but I seriously haven’t done the deep dive research. This is @peptidepete thread and he has all the experience.

                Im sure we can get all the latest testing he has done and updated protocols.

                I do take Klotho

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                @diegoc I hope he posts them.

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                  If I remember correctly with using FLGR242 I have to be watching out for my blood sugar to drop especially after a workout? I don’t really eat carbs but what carbs are you guys consuming immediately after your workouts? Planning to start tomorrow.

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                    Yummy my favorite meal. Lol

                    To be honest everything I put in my mouth is accounted for.

                    Pre work out is 1cup of Fairlife 2% ultra filtered milk, 3/4 scoop grass fed protein powder, 2 shots of coffee with 1tsp of raw honey. This is a cold vanilla latte with protein.

                    In a bowl 1 banana, 2 dates with 1tsp honey

                    After workout

                    2 versions 1 with milk and 1 with coconut water.
                    Shake, with 1scoop protein powder, 1 banana, honey and a Date. Gud stuff.

                    1 hour later my breakfast mainly eggs and ground beef

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                      I took 2mg of that SlimAssist a week ago. With my usual training, my muscles are growing all over before my eyes. I was planning to have it once a week, I changed my mind and will have to wait another week - it's too fast.

                      attentiion is all you need

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                      • vpepsV vpeps

                        I took 2mg of that SlimAssist a week ago. With my usual training, my muscles are growing all over before my eyes. I was planning to have it once a week, I changed my mind and will have to wait another week - it's too fast.

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                        @vpeptides I am literally aroused by this lol I have 12 slim assist vials incoming as of yesterday

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                          Please boys im getting aroused as well and i have to start in Jan 2027 😝

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                          • vpepsV vpeps

                            I took 2mg of that SlimAssist a week ago. With my usual training, my muscles are growing all over before my eyes. I was planning to have it once a week, I changed my mind and will have to wait another week - it's too fast.

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                            @vpeptides whats your plan buddy, dose and frequency?

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                              @vpeptides whats your plan buddy, dose and frequency?

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                              @diegoc as I said, I was going to take 2 mg FLGR242 as SlimAssist a week. I will wait an extra week this time because my leg muscles expanded too much so they pushed on my veins and it was painful for a few days. I do a lot of squats with weights. I was also unusually tired over the weekend. But just now I went back to gym and I felt like I got stronger. So, I hope later I will be able to use it once a week. It might be just an initial overreaction.

                              attentiion is all you need

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                                I did just a little research and its very common to feel lethargic and its because you need to up the calories.

                                Thats why Im doing FLGR in my lean bulk which I plan to eat around 3000-3500c a day.

                                Yeah maybe lower the dose a bit and titrate up

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                                  Yummy my favorite meal. Lol

                                  To be honest everything I put in my mouth is accounted for.

                                  Pre work out is 1cup of Fairlife 2% ultra filtered milk, 3/4 scoop grass fed protein powder, 2 shots of coffee with 1tsp of raw honey. This is a cold vanilla latte with protein.

                                  In a bowl 1 banana, 2 dates with 1tsp honey

                                  After workout

                                  2 versions 1 with milk and 1 with coconut water.
                                  Shake, with 1scoop protein powder, 1 banana, honey and a Date. Gud stuff.

                                  1 hour later my breakfast mainly eggs and ground beef

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                                  @diegoc said:

                                  Yummy my favorite meal. Lol

                                  To be honest everything I put in my mouth is accounted for.

                                  Pre work out is 1cup of Fairlife 2% ultra filtered milk, 3/4 scoop grass fed protein powder, 2 shots of coffee with 1tsp of raw honey. This is a cold vanilla latte with protein.

                                  In a bowl 1 banana, 2 dates with 1tsp honey

                                  After workout

                                  2 versions 1 with milk and 1 with coconut water.
                                  Shake, with 1scoop protein powder, 1 banana, honey and a Date. Gud stuff.

                                  1 hour later my breakfast mainly eggs and ground beef

                                  I like it. Protein shake with banana, a date and honey. That will be my immediate after workout consumption and the eggs after a shower. Thank you.

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                                  • vpepsV vpeps

                                    I took 2mg of that SlimAssist a week ago. With my usual training, my muscles are growing all over before my eyes. I was planning to have it once a week, I changed my mind and will have to wait another week - it's too fast.

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                                    @vpeptides said:

                                    I took 2mg of that SlimAssist a week ago. With my usual training, my muscles are growing all over before my eyes. I was planning to have it once a week, I changed my mind and will have to wait another week - it's too fast.

                                    Are you saying that you had planned to take SlimAssist (2mg FLGR242) 1x a week but now you're going to only take it 1x every 2 weeks because you're building muscles quickly?

                                    Edit: Just saw your other post after. I wonder if doing 1mg 2x a week would change it up for you? Also how many mL of Bac water did you use for your 2.5mg Slim Assist vial?

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                                      @vpeptides said:

                                      I took 2mg of that SlimAssist a week ago. With my usual training, my muscles are growing all over before my eyes. I was planning to have it once a week, I changed my mind and will have to wait another week - it's too fast.

                                      Are you saying that you had planned to take SlimAssist (2mg FLGR242) 1x a week but now you're going to only take it 1x every 2 weeks because you're building muscles quickly?

                                      Edit: Just saw your other post after. I wonder if doing 1mg 2x a week would change it up for you? Also how many mL of Bac water did you use for your 2.5mg Slim Assist vial?

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                                      @denti yes, for now every 2 weeks, until I feel I am fine after 1 week, which may be in 2 weeks already, will see. I don't think that splitting the dose will change much, why would it? Albumin half-life is 19 days, so after 3 days perhaps 90% of the original dose will be still in the system anyway. I used 0.5 ml of water as it was suggested.

                                      attentiion is all you need

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                                        @vpeptides said:

                                        I took 2mg of that SlimAssist a week ago. With my usual training, my muscles are growing all over before my eyes. I was planning to have it once a week, I changed my mind and will have to wait another week - it's too fast.

                                        Are you saying that you had planned to take SlimAssist (2mg FLGR242) 1x a week but now you're going to only take it 1x every 2 weeks because you're building muscles quickly?

                                        Edit: Just saw your other post after. I wonder if doing 1mg 2x a week would change it up for you? Also how many mL of Bac water did you use for your 2.5mg Slim Assist vial?

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                                        @denti 1mg/wk is about what I have in mind to start with when mine lands and just see how I take to it.

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                                        • D denti

                                          @diegoc said:

                                          Yummy my favorite meal. Lol

                                          To be honest everything I put in my mouth is accounted for.

                                          Pre work out is 1cup of Fairlife 2% ultra filtered milk, 3/4 scoop grass fed protein powder, 2 shots of coffee with 1tsp of raw honey. This is a cold vanilla latte with protein.

                                          In a bowl 1 banana, 2 dates with 1tsp honey

                                          After workout

                                          2 versions 1 with milk and 1 with coconut water.
                                          Shake, with 1scoop protein powder, 1 banana, honey and a Date. Gud stuff.

                                          1 hour later my breakfast mainly eggs and ground beef

                                          I like it. Protein shake with banana, a date and honey. That will be my immediate after workout consumption and the eggs after a shower. Thank you.

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                                          @denti Dam thats exactly how i do it….

                                          Training Day — 2,400 ·

                                          8:00am · Pre-workout — 25.8P / 93.5C / 6.0F — 531 cal
                                          8 oz Fairlife 2% · banana · 2 Medjool dates · 1 tsp honey · 2 oz beet juice · coffee · ½ scoop Equip

                                          8:30–9:50am · Gym

                                          10:30am · Post-workout + Breakfast — 57.5P / 83.1C / 19.6F — 739 cal
                                          ½ scoop Equip · 8 oz coconut water · ½ banana · 1 Medjool date · 1 tbsp honey

                                          After Shower
                                          3 whole eggs · · 3 oz cooked 50/50 beef+liver blend · bone broth · ½ cup blueberries · 2 oz pomegranate juice

                                          2:00pm · Lunch — 35.3P / 88C / 7.6F — 535 cal
                                          4 oz cooked chicken thighs · 1 cup rice · orange · 1 medium apple · ginger-turmeric shot

                                          6:00pm · Dinner — 63.2P / 48.3C / 17.3F — 600 cal
                                          Carrot salad (no oil) · 5 oz cooked skirt steak · 4 oz sweet potato

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