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  • S Stevepep

    @pep_researcher there was a total of 12 vials tested for that batch all 97pct by Janoshik. And then we have Freedoms. Their COA’s are complete garbage. There might as well be no COA. During Labor Day I was on the hunt so many people talked about the sale at S1 and how great they are so I was pricing MOTS and of course Freedom COA you couldn’t give that to me for free. It’s Russian roulette

    Made me think how many people for a good deal just don’t care and are willing to look the other way. Dangerous shit. It just takes one time and the perspective completely changes.

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    @Stevepep said:

    Made me think how many people for a good deal just don’t care and are willing to look the other way. Dangerous shit. It just takes one time and the perspective completely changes

    I once upon a time valued Freedom COA as gold standard. 😭 I have some stock of Reta and Survo with Freedom COA. I'm just going to take the gamble in my research assuming the original pep isn't trash. Otherwise it's a big loss for me.

    Peptira and S1 use Freedom only. Southern Aminos used them a lot too. After I started reading Peptide Critic forum, I "grew up" to look critically at vendors, labs, and COAs.

    I said to someone — between Nexaph Janoshik COA without endotoxin results and a US reseller with full panel Freedom, ILS, or Kovera COA, I will pick Nexaph.

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      @stevepep sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing.

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      @Nuncles it was pretty scary. I almost gave up thankfully I found this Group.

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        @pep_researcher there was a total of 12 vials tested for that batch all 97pct by Janoshik. And then we have Freedoms. Their COA’s are complete garbage. There might as well be no COA. During Labor Day I was on the hunt so many people talked about the sale at S1 and how great they are so I was pricing MOTS and of course Freedom COA you couldn’t give that to me for free. It’s Russian roulette

        Made me think how many people for a good deal just don’t care and are willing to look the other way. Dangerous shit. It just takes one time and the perspective completely changes.

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        @Stevepep

        At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Freedom is not even doing actual tests and just making up numbers and inputting them on COAs

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          @Nuncles yes from pure lab peptides which was recommended from peptidedosages so I figured it was safe. I ended up with flu like systems I couldn’t get my head off the pillow for 2 days and an ISR that turned into a wound. I contacted them and they said it’s for research only. The good news is @randy called them out for their fake COA’s and I found this community.

          If someone is buying a product for research only with a Freedom COA all of the information has been given to you in this group that it can’t be trusted. You have no one to blame but yourself if you end up having an adverse reaction. IMO you want to control what you can we can’t control the manufacturing but we can verify a COA and make sure it’s from a trustworthy lab if not get it tested ourselves. Otherwise you have lost control and you are taking a very unnecessary risk which could have severe consequences.

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          @Stevepep said:

          @Nuncles yes from pure lab peptides which was recommended from peptidedosages so I figured it was safe. I ended up with flu like systems I couldn’t get my head off the pillow for 2 days and an ISR that turned into a wound. I contacted them and they said it’s for research only. The good news is @randy called them out for their fake COA’s and I found this community.

          If someone is buying a product for research only with a Freedom COA all of the information has been given to you in this group that it can’t be trusted. You have no one to blame but yourself if you end up having an adverse reaction. IMO you want to control what you can we can’t control the manufacturing but we can verify a COA and make sure it’s from a trustworthy lab if not get it tested ourselves. Otherwise you have lost control and you are taking a very unnecessary risk which could have severe consequences.

          That’s enough for me to hear. I am trashing all of my Freedom tested peptides. Just not worth the risk.

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            I refuse to buy from a vendor who uses Freedom as their only testing source

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              One thing about Nexaph I don’t understand is the partial testing on some items of the same peptide.
              Look at Reta. 10mg only purity/potency/ID. But on the 12mg a full test. Why is that? The suspicious part of me thinks maybe the 10mg had higher than normal Endo?
              I like Nexaph and they have become my go to. But inquiring minds want to know…?

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                One thing about Nexaph I don’t understand is the partial testing on some items of the same peptide.
                Look at Reta. 10mg only purity/potency/ID. But on the 12mg a full test. Why is that? The suspicious part of me thinks maybe the 10mg had higher than normal Endo?
                I like Nexaph and they have become my go to. But inquiring minds want to know…?

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                @mikebricker they are switching over to more full testing, they are probably trying to get rid of what was previously tested first before transitioning each item over.

                Just someone with a fridge full of research and a browser history that would concern my doctor.

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                • M mikebricker

                  One thing about Nexaph I don’t understand is the partial testing on some items of the same peptide.
                  Look at Reta. 10mg only purity/potency/ID. But on the 12mg a full test. Why is that? The suspicious part of me thinks maybe the 10mg had higher than normal Endo?
                  I like Nexaph and they have become my go to. But inquiring minds want to know…?

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                  @mikebricker just check the third party testing it will be there. Like others have said on the older stuff they paid for third party endo, sterility and heavy metal testing people got confused so they swapped it and now do the full panel testing and pay for third party testing partial panel.

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                    @mikebricker just check the third party testing it will be there. Like others have said on the older stuff they paid for third party endo, sterility and heavy metal testing people got confused so they swapped it and now do the full panel testing and pay for third party testing partial panel.

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                    @Stevepep How to check third party testing? I’m not sure exactly what you mean?
                    Also Steve please refer me to how you know they own a Chinese API manufacturer and get the powder in the USA then finish and lyophilize themselves. I can’t find that anywhere with Google. Thanks.
                    PS., please don’t say Finnrick. That’s a major joke…

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                      @Stevepep How to check third party testing? I’m not sure exactly what you mean?
                      Also Steve please refer me to how you know they own a Chinese API manufacturer and get the powder in the USA then finish and lyophilize themselves. I can’t find that anywhere with Google. Thanks.
                      PS., please don’t say Finnrick. That’s a major joke…

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                      @mikebricker just follow Cain on telegram he talks about it often so it’s coming from Nexaph. It’s SNP https://t.me/SNPcomm. They have no secrets and are very forthright. There are third party testing results there and also on flying purple

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                      • S Stevepep

                        @mikebricker just follow Cain on telegram he talks about it often so it’s coming from Nexaph. It’s SNP https://t.me/SNPcomm. They have no secrets and are very forthright. There are third party testing results there and also on flying purple

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                        @Stevepep I believe you, they have the best most tested deal at very good prices. I wish I’d found them sooner.

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                          @Stevepep I believe you, they have the best most tested deal at very good prices. I wish I’d found them sooner.

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                          @mikebricker me too

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                            Just so I am clear this R30 is not a Nexaph product?

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                              One thing about Nexaph I don’t understand is the partial testing on some items of the same peptide.
                              Look at Reta. 10mg only purity/potency/ID. But on the 12mg a full test. Why is that? The suspicious part of me thinks maybe the 10mg had higher than normal Endo?
                              I like Nexaph and they have become my go to. But inquiring minds want to know…?

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                              @mikebricker Nexaph is switching to full testing on all batches post after mid June. It's posted on their TG clearly.

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                                I love S1research products! Always good product and good overfill most the time. Never had a problem with them. As Randy says though, "They're good until they're not"; something like that. I will continue to buy singles from them.

                                Proud to be on a gubmint watch list

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                                  Nexaph has a new batch of Tesamorelin - sadly still coming in at 97% and change purity 😞

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                                    Nexaph has a new batch of Tesamorelin - sadly still coming in at 97% and change purity 😞

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                                    @PeptideEd thats shitty. I will say tesa is one of the harder ones to deal with on their end. Unacceptable either way.

                                    Maybe its time to hit up our girl Tracy at QSC and get on the real big boy juice 😉

                                    "If it doesnt come in a needle. It doesn't work"

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                                      Nexaph has a new batch of Tesamorelin - sadly still coming in at 97% and change purity 😞

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                                      @PeptideEd said:

                                      Nexaph has a new batch of Tesamorelin - sadly still coming in at 97% and change purity 😞

                                      I wonder what happened with 2 batches in a row for them? All previous batches I've bought from Nexaph has been 99%+.

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                                        It's that small peak that's a little off. 3.704 vs. 3.763 minutes, that makes those 2%. I wonder what is it?

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                                          AI suggests that the small 2% peak appearing slightly earlier than the main peak is most likely an oxidized variant of the peptide (specifically at the Met27 position), or less commonly, a synthesis deletion sequence that left the chain slightly more polar. Neither of these indicates external contaminants; they are simply minor structural variations of the Tesamorelin molecule itself.

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