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    @commander I posted right after I placed my own order 😉

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      How long do you cycle off of MOTS-c?

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        @jackiewatson Most recently I've been off of MOTS-C for about a quarter... but that's more happenstance than plan in my case.

        One thing I do feel should be called out yet again here wrt MOTS-C is: MOTS-C can cause histamine reactions. For some folks that can include anaphylaxis. Start low and slow and keep some liquid Benadryl on hand just in case. I personally don't have such reactions historically, and have in the past been up to 5mg three times a week... and I still plan on titrating up when I restart out of an abundance of caution.

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          @jackiewatson Most recently I've been off of MOTS-C for about a quarter... but that's more happenstance than plan in my case.

          One thing I do feel should be called out yet again here wrt MOTS-C is: MOTS-C can cause histamine reactions. For some folks that can include anaphylaxis. Start low and slow and keep some liquid Benadryl on hand just in case. I personally don't have such reactions historically, and have in the past been up to 5mg three times a week... and I still plan on titrating up when I restart out of an abundance of caution.

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          @PeptideEd said in Discussion: Nexaph:

          @jackiewatson Most recently I've been off of MOTS-C for about a quarter... but that's more happenstance than plan in my case.

          One thing I do feel should be called out yet again here wrt MOTS-C is: MOTS-C can cause histamine reactions. For some folks that can include anaphylaxis. Start low and slow and keep some liquid Benadryl on hand just in case. I personally don't have such reactions historically, and have in the past been up to 5mg three times a week... and I still plan on titrating up when I restart out of an abundance of caution.

          This is the one that gives me pause. Just today, I saw a post on reddit, someone ended up in ER, they had just started MOTS 1mg I believe. Yikes!

          “Currently in a committed relationship with my plateau. Waiting for my receptor reset to file for divorce”

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            I started it Dec 1, 3X per week (10mg split). Took it continuously until Jan 19 when I had a reconstruction surgery from my previous cancer surgery. Was off it for 2 weeks then. Started back up and ended up in the hospital on 3/3 with cellulitis in my surgery site, so off it about a week. Started back up and have been taking it ever since.

            I probably sound like an unhealthy person, but I am the healthiest "sick" person around, lol I had cancer 10 years ago, no evidence of disease after 1.5 years of treatment. Now, I am dealing with the problems caused by chemo, the gift that keeps on giving. I take GHK-cu to improve my skin that took a beating from it, TA-1 to support my immune system and MOTS-c to support my mitochondria. I feel great, I'm lean with low body fat and I am a personal trainer/fitness instructor.

            I am planning on cycling off in 3 weeks when I finish this vial. Not sure how long I should stay off.

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              What is NXP-2P? I can't find a description.

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                Its tirz.

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                  Its tirz.

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                  @bangkokiscool Thank you.

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                    I see Nexaph’s newest batch of MOTS-C returned from the lab at 98.5% purity. As a result, they are offering a 20% discount on it. What are your thoughts? Is a $50 discount on a kit worth 0.5% or so less purity? They said it’s in the “acceptable range” still… and I see most grey market vendors won’t offer refunds until it’s less than 98%. Just curious on how much of a difference this really is.

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                    @Anthony Great question, I got some 98.5 from EZ peptides and put it in the back.

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                      I started it Dec 1, 3X per week (10mg split). Took it continuously until Jan 19 when I had a reconstruction surgery from my previous cancer surgery. Was off it for 2 weeks then. Started back up and ended up in the hospital on 3/3 with cellulitis in my surgery site, so off it about a week. Started back up and have been taking it ever since.

                      I probably sound like an unhealthy person, but I am the healthiest "sick" person around, lol I had cancer 10 years ago, no evidence of disease after 1.5 years of treatment. Now, I am dealing with the problems caused by chemo, the gift that keeps on giving. I take GHK-cu to improve my skin that took a beating from it, TA-1 to support my immune system and MOTS-c to support my mitochondria. I feel great, I'm lean with low body fat and I am a personal trainer/fitness instructor.

                      I am planning on cycling off in 3 weeks when I finish this vial. Not sure how long I should stay off.

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                      @jackie You will find a lot of different info on cycling MOTs-C. Along with many different dosing protocols. I ran a cycle of 8 weeks in my test subject and then washed out for 8 weeks. He has a history of cancer and surgeries and has been continually getting gifts from radiation and chemo as well. I think the first 8-week cycle was a bit long, as the effects of the MOTs-C started to wane, but I also think the 8-week washout was a bit long, as the energy was severely lagging by week 6. So I've moved to a 4/4 cycle as the next step. With this latest cycle, the increase in energy and focus during workouts is incredible. Dosing is 5mg 2x/wk fasted in the AM. I found a lot of washout info, but it seemed that much of what I read was equal on/off for the cycle. Good Luck

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                        Anyone purchased NAD+ from Nexaph? Waiting on Mots-c to arrive. Never used the company, a little nervous, because in the samples of the NAD+, the 3rd sample was quite a bit less than the other 2 vials. (Although all were overfills)

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                          I have and I love it. The latest batch, which i have, tested ~520, 523, 503, which isn’t much given the fill level and typical dosing. If you recon to the average and are researching 50 or 100mg, you’re within ~1mg either way.

                          FWIW, their MOTS-C is also great. you’ll be very pleased with the results your rat gets with these.

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                            @jackie You will find a lot of different info on cycling MOTs-C. Along with many different dosing protocols. I ran a cycle of 8 weeks in my test subject and then washed out for 8 weeks. He has a history of cancer and surgeries and has been continually getting gifts from radiation and chemo as well. I think the first 8-week cycle was a bit long, as the effects of the MOTs-C started to wane, but I also think the 8-week washout was a bit long, as the energy was severely lagging by week 6. So I've moved to a 4/4 cycle as the next step. With this latest cycle, the increase in energy and focus during workouts is incredible. Dosing is 5mg 2x/wk fasted in the AM. I found a lot of washout info, but it seemed that much of what I read was equal on/off for the cycle. Good Luck

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                            @Chuxpeps said in Discussion: Nexaph:

                            @jackie You will find a lot of different info on cycling MOTs-C. Along with many different dosing protocols. I ran a cycle of 8 weeks in my test subject and then washed out for 8 weeks. He has a history of cancer and surgeries and has been continually getting gifts from radiation and chemo as well. I think the first 8-week cycle was a bit long, as the effects of the MOTs-C started to wane, but I also think the 8-week washout was a bit long, as the energy was severely lagging by week 6. So I've moved to a 4/4 cycle as the next step. With this latest cycle, the increase in energy and focus during workouts is incredible. Dosing is 5mg 2x/wk fasted in the AM. I found a lot of washout info, but it seemed that much of what I read was equal on/off for the cycle. Good Luck

                            Thank you! I will probably stay off it for a month and then go back on it.

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                              I have and I love it. The latest batch, which i have, tested ~520, 523, 503, which isn’t much given the fill level and typical dosing. If you recon to the average and are researching 50 or 100mg, you’re within ~1mg either way.

                              FWIW, their MOTS-C is also great. you’ll be very pleased with the results your rat gets with these.

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                                I have and I love it. The latest batch, which i have, tested ~520, 523, 503, which isn’t much given the fill level and typical dosing. If you recon to the average and are researching 50 or 100mg, you’re within ~1mg either way.

                                FWIW, their MOTS-C is also great. you’ll be very pleased with the results your rat gets with these.

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                                @ResearchCat Good to know! Yea, researching in the 50-100mg range, so that makes me feel better. Didn't see the purity level though. Would be my only other concern. Does this company typically provide products with good purity?

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                                  Yes, they usually publish purity and 99%+ is typical.

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                                    @ResearchCat Good to know! Yea, researching in the 50-100mg range, so that makes me feel better. Didn't see the purity level though. Would be my only other concern. Does this company typically provide products with good purity?

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                                    @angelajones They state 99% purity or money back guarantee. I’ve ordered 2x and expecting 3rd order to arrive today. You will need a label maker but the box comes with the QR code of the COA

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                                      @angelajones They state 99% purity or money back guarantee. I’ve ordered 2x and expecting 3rd order to arrive today. You will need a label maker but the box comes with the QR code of the COA

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                                      @beachfun just got my niimbot! Thanks! 1st order (Mots-C) arrives today.

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                                        @beachfun just got my niimbot! Thanks! 1st order (Mots-C) arrives today.

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                                        @angelajones said in Discussion: Nexaph:

                                        @beachfun just got my niimbot! Thanks! 1st order (Mots-C) arrives today.

                                        What Nimbot did you buy?

                                        Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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                                          MOTS-C.png

                                          Please excuse my typos. Small Phone & Bad Eyes

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