Peptide product for spouse sleep issues
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Tesa/Ipa puts me out pretty good. I want to add Epithalon with it to see if that works even better. I just have to figure out dosage and timing.
But as far as the Tesa/Ipa goes, I take 1mg/.3mg about 20 minutes before bed. I don’t eat for at least 2 hours before. -
@theone one thing to keep in mind is that (like many nootropics) they tend to be a bit personal. For example, I just finished a run of pinealon... didn't do much for me. On the other hand, Epithalon was epic for my sleep. As you can see above, @randy has a completely different (and very positive) experience with pinealon. So don't get disheartened if your wife has her own personal set of responses to such things... keep on trying and you'll find the ones that work for her
@PeptideEd yeah that was crazy about this. I've done. Many cycles of epithalon with no real effect on my sleep.
As they say " mileage may vary"
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@brithus +1 on pinealon. 2mg a day for 30 days was the protocol i ran. Heavy handed but im a different rat now.
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I hope the DSIP works for her! Light sleeper here. Most nights was averaging 3 - 4 hours interrupted. But when I introduced DSIP, eventually fell asleep, it kept me asleep. The falling asleep was a struggle, so I added Selank into my research stack, it was a game changer. Some researchers experience groggy/fogginess in the AM from DSIP from what I've read, but that hasn't been my experience thankfully.
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@theone @theone You may want to look into pinealon. It is a bioactive tripeptide synthesized from Glutamine, Asparagine, and Arginine that can have a big impact on sleep quality. It works by targeting the pineal gland which produces melatonin and regulates circadian rhythms which can potentially improve sleep quality. It is also neuroprotective, and has a major role in managing the endocrine system which affects growth, moods, metabolism, injury and stress responses, reproduction, and energy. My research subjects have had good results on 300mcg subQ. I also recently switched administration to nasal with even better improvements.
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@randy Same! I cycled epi once (5mg x 20 day protocol). I did it for telomere therapy, not for sleep, but I didn’t notice any sleep improvement. I also didn’t notice improved sleep with sermorelin or CJC/Ipa.
I am sleeping better, but there are a bunch of lifestyle and other changes and researches that could collectively explain it.
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@brithus so if i understood this correctly she may get something from Pinealon nasally? I will look into that. She is currently doing dsip(night) and epitalon (morning) nasally.
@theone Yes, pinealon administered nasally before bed in addition to the DSIP might help the sleep issues. DSIP helps with slow wave Delta sleep but your subject may have more issues in endocrine/circadian rhythm regulation which is where Pinealon may offer better benefits.
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Clouse the Lab Mouse has noticed better sleep immedialtly upon researching the Epitilon , but OMG the DSIP is the bomb! both together ,you my become a modern day Rip Van Winkle
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Clouse the Lab Mouse has noticed better sleep immedialtly upon researching the Epitilon , but OMG the DSIP is the bomb! both together ,you my become a modern day Rip Van Winkle
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*Sigh
I'm still trying to find my rat the right bedtime cocktail.
I've tried Epitalon with no results, doing DSIP now, it really relaxes my rat but doesn't put him to sleep.
Planning on giving the two other suggestions a shot after the cycle is over. -
@Sable-Darqness
How much if each did you take and what time of the day did you take them?@Commander the Epitilon was 500mcg in the afternoon the DSIP was 300mcg in the evening. It din't put Clouse to sleep, but he slept deeper ,woke groggy but that shook off easily.
